PC Gamer November Issue Cover - Shadowlands & CGI Jailer, Flight Form in Shadowlands

Originally Posted by ashblond

He looks beyond retarded. His face is more retarded than Garrosh.

No, he does not look "retarded", or even "beyond retarded". Saying "it's retarded" is nothing but a childish insult that doesn't mean anything other than "I don't like it", and you've not once said what exactly about the design that you don't like.

Just admit it: you don't like it. No need to spew childish insults that don't really mean anything, nor help explain why you don't like it.

For me, I think it's look cool and rather menacing. Like a villain should be.

I actually think he looks much better in game. He looks weirdly old in the render. Like an old man with saggy cheeks.

Jailer = Dreadlord

If this is the most ambitious then damn, we are screwed

Originally Posted by The Butt Witch

Inspired?!

Quan Chi is the ruler of the Netherrealm, which is the Mortal Kombat version of Hell.

So not only Blizzard copied his looks, but also copied his role.

lol.. World of Warcraft is literally a straight rip off of warhammer. Plus, remember Odyn & Hellya in legion? What about "Wakanda Forever".. i Mean.. "Zandalar forever"?

The druid change is weird, but does bring it in line with the other classes since travel form already mimics a ground mount prior to flight.

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Originally Posted by GreenJesus

lol.. World of Warcraft is literally a straight rip off of warhammer. Plus, remember Odyn & Hellya in legion? What about "Wakanda Forever".. i Mean.. "Zandalar forever"?

Warhammer is a straight rip off of D&D. D&D is a rip off of mythology, pulp fiction, and contemporary fantasy authors of the 1960s and 1970s.

Are far are we going to go down this rabbit hole? Every piece of fiction is inspired by another piece of fiction. In terms of Warhammer and WoW, they're more so just based off of similar source material.

Originally Posted by Maljinwo

If this is the most ambitious then damn, we are screwed

Get out of this game then and rid us of your stupidity.

If this is "the most ambitious" then I invoke all of the Legion pre-patch doomsayers for this is the true end

The amount of hate in this thread for a barebones preview we haven't even seen in action yet with voice acting or soundtrack, it's like most of you are part of the Playa Haters Club.

Originally Posted by Ielenia

No, he does not look "retarded", or even "beyond retarded". Saying "it's retarded" is nothing but a childish insult that doesn't mean anything other than "I don't like it", and you've not once said what exactly about the design that you don't like.

Just admit it: you don't like it. No need to spew childish insults that don't really mean anything, nor help explain why you don't like it.

For me, I think it's look cool and rather menacing. Like a villain should be.

doesn't look like the retard i remember...


Unless he is going cat retard;

they better make travel form benefit with mount speed perks then because it doesn't get say the guild perk 10%

A villain out of no where is never going to be menacing. I personally can't make any connection here. We don't know him. He is just a very typical big bad guy! very very typical! Even the art team can no longer carry this!

Originally Posted by october breeze

A villain out of no where is never going to be menacing. I personally can't make any connection here. We don't know him. He is just a very typical big bad guy! very very typical! Even the art team can no longer carry this!

WoW players: Why does Blizzard have to rely on well-established lore characters instead of doing something new or interesting? I hate Sylvanas!!!

Also WoW players: Why does Blizzard make new characters when they can just use the same old ones that we're familar with instead??? This game sucks!!!

Originally Posted by october breeze

A villain out of no where is never going to be menacing. I personally can't make any connection here. We don't know him. He is just a very typical big bad guy! very very typical! Even the art team can no longer carry this!

Honest question; did you feel that way towards Archimonde in WC3?

Originally Posted by Pebrocks The Warlock

Honest question; did you feel that way towards Archimonde in WC3?

Yes, I felt different. The entire UD campaign in Reign of Chaos was about KT explaining burning legion and summoning Archimonde. "As the mortal armies march blind to torch their doom, the burning shadow has come to consumes us all". That line in the opening cinematic, alone was enough to say there is big villain coming. He was built up implicitly.
I didn't know much back then, but i knew he is going to be threatening and powerful. And he demolished Lordereon easily.

Then we united and fought back at the end of NE campaign. That was awesome.

Jailer, where is the build up? who is this guy? We fought Gods and Titans. Why should be scared of him?
Because they say so! That's the only reason. No background, no history, no connection. The only connection is Sylvanas, which has become a meme of character now!
Even his look in the CGI doesn't look threatening. He is just a raid boss at the moment. He is not a villain, he is a raid boss.

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Originally Posted by otaXephon

WoW players: Why does Blizzard have to rely on well-established lore characters instead of doing something new or interesting? I hate Sylvanas!!!

Also WoW players: Why does Blizzard make new characters when they can just use the same old ones that we're familar with instead??? This game sucks!!!

Oh please!
I am pretty sure no one asked for an entire expansion revolving around a nobody! Void-lords are good example of new characters with good build ups.

Originally Posted by october breeze

Oh please!
I am pretty sure no one asked for an entire expansion revolving around a nobody! Void-lords are good example of new characters with good build ups.

That's sure nice of you to speak on behalf of every WoW player ever.

Originally Posted by KainneAbsolute

Jailer = Dreadlord

Wauw! Fantastic insight there.................

Originally Posted by wombinator04

"It's the most ambitious expansion we've ever made". Surely they're just joking, right?

Kinda thought the same. Looking back at Bethesda, they've said 'most ambitious game we've made' but I don't think anything they made beats 'Daggerfall' in terms of ambition when you consider all the things they wanted to do but never made it into the game.

hm this reminds me of how "ambitious" Fallout 76 was supposed to be .

kinda bad omen they have to go so strong with marketing.

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Originally Posted by Queen of Hamsters

I would really appreciate it if they moved away from Dudebro-villains.

The Jailer looked SO much more imposing sat behind Sylvana's, ya know, before we could see his face and body...
And nah, Legion was by far more ambitious with its class redesigns and Order Halls and Artifact Weapons etc...

agreed

here he looks like generic old evil grandpa.

Originally Posted by october breeze

Jailer, where is the build up? who is this guy? We fought Gods and Titans. Why should be scared of him?
Because they say so! That's the only reason. No background, no history, no connection. The only connection is Sylvanas, which has become a meme of character now!

Yes the only connection is definitely Sylvanas, and some useless dude named Arthsomething, what a loser

Regarding his look, he's threatening enough to me. He's probably even more if you add the helm of domination to what seems to be his regular armor.