Shadowlands Afterlives: Revendreth

Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles

Who writes this shit?

"the flow of such hubris-ridden souls has virtually ceased"

How the fuck can u run out of assholes? How can u run out of hubris-ridden people? Lol??

That makes as much sense as writing "the vast oceans have run out of water"

Well someone gets angry without paying attention.


The short was very light on plotting, but still well made. Denathrius's VA is superb, the music and art are great, and it establishes the zone and Covenant quite well. If I made a ranking I'd say;

Bastion = Ardenweald

Revendreth





Maldraxxus.

Originally Posted by Knight Meta

It honestly worries me that there was little surrounding Garrosh in this video. I have not kept up on all the lore so someone correct me if I am wrong but seen as how Sire Denathrius is the final boss of the first raid; I suppose this means somehow that Revendreth will be liberated and that a new system / rule is formed? And with how this video went; It most likely means that Garrosh will play a major role in that which from this video alone is going to end terribly. Garrosh was already one of the worst written "main" characters of WoW; His entire character can be boiled down to "Daddy issues made me go mental" - And now he is shown to be the same one-dimensional bland slate even in the afterlife; Serving as nothing but a milking cow because of how he just wont let go of his past actions and - As clearly implied in the video; his pride.

If he ends up playing a major role he will most likely be:

A: Just furiously mad and go on yet another rampage, in which we hopefully can kill him once and for all but it just wont feel good.

B: He has actually been milked so much that enough pride is gone for him to go trough a sort of "redemption" arc which he does not deserve at all as he is just so poorly constructed as a character. He should have died in Pandaria. End of discussion.

Blizzard is very welcome to surprise me tho; if they first allude to making this waste of space someone who plays a role in the upcoming expansion; I can only hope that it will be for the better - Which will be difficult given how deconstructed this character already is.

Just to confirm, this is Garrosh right? It does look like him but with this art style I thought it could have been any one of the orcs. I'm still not sure how dying in the alternative dimension and timeline dropped him into this dimensions version of Shadowlands. For example, Blackhand died in both WoD and original continuity, so are their two Blackhands in the Shadowlands, or is it because Garrosh jumped dimensions that he got sent to this Shadowlands, and thus the WoD Blackhand goes to WoD version of Shadowlands, and OC Blackhand would go to this one? Clearly I'm overthinking this.

This was very underwhelming. I expected to see more of Garrosh after being leaked, all he did was getting milked with no foresight of whats going to happen to him unless its being shown in the zone. Kael'thas is nowhere to be seen despite being one of the main characters. The music sounded off to me, might have fit the theme but it doesn't sound nearly as good compared to the Ardenweald music. I liked the Denatrhius voice acting and having him talk as if he is constantly emoting Twitch ''Kappa''

I'd rate all covenant shorts from best to worst:

1. Bastion
2. Ardenweald
3. Revendreth
4. Maldraxxus (worst by far)

And this is coming from someone who is looking forward to the Revendreth and Maldraxxus zones.

I'm guessing that Garrosh is being saved to play a bigger role later in the expansion.

Originally Posted by taishar68

It is actually explained in a few places, that the natural flow of souls is determined by the arbiter, so perhaps the Arbiter did determine that some souls went directly to the Maw; Uther and Devos sidestepped the order by dropping him directly in the Maw, which now must be seen as the genesis for the anima drought.

We may find out the Jailer had an epiphany thanks to Arthas arrival; that he did not need to wait for the arbiter to decide who goes to the Maw...and that by diverting souls to the Maw, he could wield much greater power, either with the souls as an army or by the collective anima they possess. Upon Sylvanas' arrival to the Maw, perhaps he saw in her the right vessel by which to increase the number of souls that go to the maw, increasing that power exponentially.

It has never been said that the Arbiter sends souls to the Maw, unless I'm mistaken.
All I've ever heard/read/seen is that the worst souls go there - which leaves the door open to them potentially having gone to Revendreth to try to atone first.

And no, we do not know that this is responsible for the machine of death breaking. Indeed, the order of events would imply very much otherwise. Arthas died and was cast into the Maw at the end of WotLK yet we have been explicitly told and shown that other souls were flowing into their rightful realms into Legion.

Even after years of torture Garrosh's eyes are still filled with fiery defiance.

No Kael'thas, but Garrosh confirmed, and damn good narrative. Bastion and Revendreth will be my two favorites, with Ardenweald also very good quality and Maldraxxus just the only disappointing one. I say this all from lore standpoint of course, I don't care what their abilities are.

Originally Posted by Ashiraya

Probably to ensure that he does. I disagree with that implication, why would Devos and Uther know ahead of the time what the Arbiter's judgment would be? They bypassed her to ensure their desired result.

While they wouldn't know her judgement beforehand, that doesn't mean that the implication is wrong. If Devos knew the Arbiter never sent souls directly to the Maw, then that would still be a cause for their actions.
If Kael and Garry got Revendreth, I don't see why Arthas wouldn't either. Which would have afforded Arthas a chance at redemption - something we know Devos/Uther explicitly and purposely did not allow or want.

If he was an "agent of the Maw" and they still thought they needed to jump the line - that's fairly strong evidence he wasn't going there directly.

Originally Posted by Knight Meta

Garrosh was already one of the worst written "main" characters of WoW;

Please name a more iconic WoW character, I'll wait.

And I mean created in WoW, not from Warcraft 1, 2 or 3.

Yeah, milk that bastard lol.

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Originally Posted by Daronokk

Please name a more iconic WoW character, I'll wait.

And I mean created in WoW, not from Warcraft 1, 2 or 3.

Literally anyone else.

Originally Posted by taishar68

The voice acting was superb; the juxtaposition was perfect. If you've ever read V for Vendetta, it kind of resembles a section of that book in that fashion. Very well done, and the best of the bunch. Quick rating: Revendreth, Ardenweald, Bastion, Maldraxxus (in regards to the quality of the shorts).

Agree 100%. The irony of being both dark and delightful was fantastic. After the raw introduction, it was quite a shock when the strings came in.

Originally Posted by Gafgarlion2

Just to confirm, this is Garrosh right? It does look like him but with this art style I thought it could have been any one of the orcs. I'm still not sure how dying in the alternative dimension and timeline dropped him into this dimensions version of Shadowlands. For example, Blackhand died in both WoD and original continuity, so are their two Blackhands in the Shadowlands, or is it because Garrosh jumped dimensions that he got sent to this Shadowlands, and thus the WoD Blackhand goes to WoD version of Shadowlands, and OC Blackhand would go to this one? Clearly I'm overthinking this.

I think there is a single Shadowlands. If the Legion can transcend alternate timelines then why can’t the Shadowlands?

Oh man, I just realized, What f Uther Broke the Machine of Death by intervening and casting Arthas directly into the maw?

Kind of like when a machine can not comprehend what just happened it says "Can not compute" over and over until it shuts down...by directly grabbing Arthas and not allowing his spirit to go in front of the Arbitor for judgement, the Arbitor has been waiting for his soul to pass in front of her/him? and shut down until we bring him back!

That's why the Arbitor steers when we arrive on Oribos! It sensed his presence in the maw when we opened the waystone! but shut down again when it realized we were not Arthas.

Originally Posted by Aerisot

Oh man, I just realized, What f Uther Broke the Machine of Death by intervening and casting Arthas directly into the maw?

That happened years before the Shadowlands/Machine of Death broke.
We know that happened sometime in Legion (Ursoc went to Ardenweald) - not before the Cataclysm.

Originally Posted by Daronokk

Please name a more iconic WoW character, I'll wait.

And I mean created in WoW, not from Warcraft 1, 2 or 3.

wilfred fizzlebang

tirion fordring

i could likely name a few more if i spend some time thinking about it.

Originally Posted by MrLachyG

I think there is a single Shadowlands. If the Legion can transcend alternate timelines then why can’t the Shadowlands?

I can work with that, it is an infinite plane of existence, so I guess the multiple reality versions of a person may not run into each other. More likely its just not a question Blizzard asked, not super important but something I am thinking of. Could mean there are a couple Groms running around in this place too. WoD Grom was helpful at the end but he did kill a shit load of people.

Originally Posted by rogoth

wilfred fizzlebang

tirion fordring

i could likely name a few more if i spend some time thinking about it.

The most famous Millhouse Manastorm

Originally Posted by Bennett

"Who writes this shit?"

People who expect you at least understand the full plot before complaining about it I'd imagine

lol exactly what i was thinking. Blizz can sometimes write shit; bu this isn't it. That guy clearly has no clue about the plot. Prob just bitching to bitch, like so many other bitchfests around here.

Didn't think I could care less than I did for the Maldraxxus. Good job blizz, you've our meh'd yourself...

Originally Posted by taishar68

If all the oceans flowed away from the shores that needed the water, it makes a lot of sense. The flow ceased because souls stopped being routed to Revendreth.

Exactly. That's the whole point. Denathrius is in on the rerouting of souls and anima to the Maw and he's lying to his peoples' faces about it.