Custom Premade Groups Feature Available at Level 50, Ajour, WowUp

So are these the only two other options for addon managers besides the upcoming overwolf? Is there any other option someone can recommend? I just need a way to search/install/update from the same app, as light as possible.

I'm not sure if anyone remembers Openraid at all, but it looks like there is a new thing called Herolobby.

I would just ignore anything CrawlFromThePit posts as if you look at his post history it's nothing but him arguing with people. He's always right and he wants the last word.

On Topic...
I can understand some people not liking the group finder change as they just like to group with people for the sake of meeting new people. However, if you actually use it for completing quests due to them being too hard for you then something is wrong. There isn't 1 group quest currently while leveling where you'd potentially need help aside from a couple elite ones in BFA zones and if you do then you need to use a resource such as Icy-Veins to get some pointers.

As for these new client managers...
If it doesn't search both of the big addon sites (WoWInterface & Curse) then I personally won't use it. WoWI was before Curse and some addons are updated on 1 site vs the other. Looks like if I move on then my choice will end up being WowUp.

Love the 50 change have to earn your SPAM lol

Originally Posted by Tziva

The same keywords the addons that effectively target this stuff work on. Stuff like "sale" / "sell" / "carry" / "boost" / "gold." These are never used by innocents in the group tool so it's not going to affect the average pug just looking for more people to play with. They could also do a much better job about filtering out URLs. There are also measures they can take to look at stuff besides just keywords. It wouldn't be that hard to run a script that can specifically focus on characters that are listed in the queue for level inappropriate content, and whom remain listed for a very long time without inviting anyone. These groups are insanely obvious to anyone who sees them -- they don't even try to hide their purpose -- if you don't think that could be automated on some level, you are way out of date with how advanced even basic AI functions are with stuff like this.

I think it's fairly dramatic to think that making some simple keyword filters would result in us "only having emotes to converse with."

(also, who sells items using the group finder?)

Yes, the sellers would likely adapt to this, but anything that cuts back on those groups would be helpful, and such a system would be fairly easy to update as new trends are identified. Literally anything is better than blocking anyone who isn't playing the newest content from using the group tool entirely.

You completely missed the point.

Imagine, for example, if Blizzard ever decides to re-add the Challenge Modes from MoP... how would a group advertise a spot open for their group that intends to go for "gold" timing?

Banning/targeting specific words will do next to nothing to stop the "carry for gold" community. At best, it'll make them start using different words. And then what? Those words are "banned/targeted" as well? And then they'll go for different words, which will be "banned/targeted" as well, and on the circle goes, and the only tangible effect that will have is that the average player will have a smaller and smaller pool of words to use in their group advertisement.

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Originally Posted by ClassicPeon

They are talking about group finder, not the ingame chat.

That being said keyword filtering is only really effective for filtering out obscenities. Its been proven time and time again that 5 minutes after a specific word gets banned they just find a new word with the same meaning to use.

Yes, that has been pointed out to me, already. But as I mentioned, the point basically remains the same.

Originally Posted by AluatisDW

How about, and I know this might be a bit of a stretch, they actually invest in a anti-spam system? It's not that difficult to just do simple regex based filtering. Literally a junior dev could get a basic filter created.

We had a addon back in WOD were we could fillter and ignore certain groups with just a script or klick but blizz remove it form thier api for "reasons"

Originally Posted by AluatisDW

How about, and I know this might be a bit of a stretch, they actually invest in a anti-spam system? It's not that difficult to just do simple regex based filtering. Literally a junior dev could get a basic filter created.

I 2nd this. My A.D.D. kicks in hard an hour into any attempt to learn coding, but the ability to filter these kinds of things seems doable. With damn near every aspect of the game being on some different server to help keep it stable, they should be able to target these...and after a month in, they can update the targeted words with what ever new wording/letter, number, symbol combination that the spammers come up with.

But, I don't know coding so I could be totally off base.

Nobody mentions twitch as addon manager, have they dropped mods support or it just suck so noone use it?

Originally Posted by Feral Druid ist Op

We had a addon back in WOD were we could fillter and ignore certain groups with just a script or klick but blizz remove it form thier api for "reasons"

Ah yes, it was very good to find specific M+ keys in Legion (ex: Triumvirat 15+ with one tank and 2 slots for healer and dps, exclude WTS) but the same API was used to autogroup for world quest and Blizz didn't want that so they just scrapped everything related to this API.
Shame.

Originally Posted by holyfist

Nobody mentions twitch as addon manager, have they dropped mods support or it just suck so noone use it?

The TwitchApp is going to be taken over by Overwolf and no one wants that crap on their pc which is why people are flocking to new managers.

Originally Posted by holyfist

Nobody mentions twitch as addon manager, have they dropped mods support or it just suck so noone use it?

Everyone has actually been mentioning that add on manager, just under the name “Overwolf”. It is getting taken over by Overwolf, which nobody really wants. The entire reason for these alternate managers being posted is that situation.

Originally Posted by Tziva

The group finder change is so punishing to leveling characters for probably marginal help on the bullshit listings (when they could instead actually take efforts to combat advertising specifically targeted at the advertising). Look, I pug a lot, and I hate those "groups" clogging up the group finder to excessive levels but I also use the group finder all the time below the cap, for rares/events/activities/achievements,etc. Just today I used it several times on characters that will probably end up in the 30-40 range post squish, for accessing a rare spawn NPC, getting help on a Legion invasion, and searching for the mad merchant. I've also used it on low levels to find a stable group to spam dungeons with or complete special achievements. 50 is way too high of a restriction; that's the equivalent of 120!

It's just especially obnoxious since it would be so easy to target advertisement by, like, targeting advertising keywords. Or restrict it for super low level characters. Or both! WHY NOT BOTH.

It's been a long time since Blizzard has done something I was genuinely surly over, but this is one of them. So fucking dumb.

Agree, I can say not having this in the new starting area for some of the elite quests was quite surprising. They really need to rethink that.

Originally Posted by Fritters154

Everyone has actually been mentioning that add on manager, just under the name “Overwolf”. It is getting taken over by Overwolf, which nobody really wants. The entire reason for these alternate managers being posted is that situation.

I see, thanks

I've found a 3rd addon manager called Singularity. It's good alternatives to that two in article

Have been using WowUp for a few weeks now and yeah it works great. Not as many bells and whistles as the Twitch client but then none of the frequent problems (so far) either.

Originally Posted by -Tim-

The TwitchApp is going to be taken over by Overwolf and no one wants that crap on their pc which is why people are flocking to new managers.

I wouldn't say no one, I've been using overwolf for years. Only reason I'm not going to be using it for SL is because these new ones pull from Tukui so it's one less thing to log into.

Originally Posted by Greyfang

So are these the only two other options for addon managers besides the upcoming overwolf? Is there any other option someone can recommend? I just need a way to search/install/update from the same app, as light as possible.

I have been usin WowUp for a while now anduspretty good.it can even download addons from tukiu.org and wowinterface unlike the twitch app that only works for curse

Originally Posted by Sunderella

I have been usin WowUp for a while now anduspretty good.it can even download addons from tukiu.org and wowinterface unlike the twitch app that only works for curse

Nice, ill give it a try.

Originally Posted by Greyfang

So are these the only two other options for addon managers besides the upcoming overwolf? Is there any other option someone can recommend? I just need a way to search/install/update from the same app, as light as possible.

There is also CurseBreaker. More here: https://ogri-la.github.io/wow-addon-managers/

no more raiding for lower lv raiders like BC, Wotlk guilds etc. with that 50 change