Chris Metzen Starts Tabletop Gaming Company Warchief Gaming
Chris Metzen has come out of retirement to start a new tabletop gaming company called Warchief Gaming. He is starting this endeavor with Mike Gilmartin, former Blizzard vice president of quality assurance. Learn more about it by watching the video below, and check out his interview on Venturebeat.



Dave Kosak Leaves Blizzard for New Studio Deviation Games
Hearthstone's Dave "Fargo" Kosak, formerly Lead Narrative Designer for WoW, has left Blizzard after 12 years. He is taking on a very important role for a new studio called Deviation Games. His tweet says that they are currently making something that will make you say "woah." We wish him all the best in his new endeavor!


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  1. Nubpwn's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by MiiiMiii View Post
    So the only 2 people left I "remember" at Blizzard now, as people I respect, are Ion Hazzikostas and Jeff Kaplan. If they leave, I will concider Blizzard completely a "new era" company.

    Sad to see really.
    I also have massive respect and hope for Tom Chilton who has been working on an unknown project since 2016. The only thing we've even heard from him since was the classic with the creator's clip showing he still has a passion for WoW, so it very well might be a WoW 2 / TITAN successor he is working on.
  1. Tyris Flare's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by jesscal11 View Post

    Like the scripted story of moving from the house to the garage to the 2000 sq ft space? Totally made up. Boring.
    Dead-end, what are you talking about? The TTRPG industry is booming.

    Go into any decent gaming shop and there are kerjillions of titles for all interests these days.
  1. Diatribe's Avatar
    So many Blizzard vets are leaving the company now. I wonder what they know that we dont?
  1. Grimalkin of Old's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by RoKPaNda View Post
    Kaplan has very very outdated ideas about MMOs.
    Compared to Hazzikostas' action/arcade, console-inspired, mobile-influenced, next-gen RPG lite ideas, I'd stick with Kaplan's "outdated" ones, thanks.
  1. Zylos's Avatar
    Literally just 2 rich guys promoting their hobby project.
  1. Low Hanging Fruit's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Grimalkin of Old View Post
    Compared to Hazzikostas' action/arcade, console-inspired, mobile-influenced, next-gen RPG lite ideas, I'd stick with Kaplan's "outdated" ones, thanks.
    Amen man. Then even worse they realize they make mistakes (and admit it 2-3 expansions later) but continue to double and triple down on those mistakes out of what I can only imagine is pride.
  1. RoKPaNda's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Grimalkin of Old View Post
    Compared to Hazzikostas' action/arcade, console-inspired, mobile-influenced, next-gen RPG lite ideas, I'd stick with Kaplan's "outdated" ones, thanks.
    Yeah that worked so well for Classic past the initial hype. Or any of the dozen MMOs that tried to appeal to the nostalgia of the early WoW days. The industry has changed and Kaplan is stuck in the past. I'm happy for you that you like him but I'd trust some posters on these forums over him when it comes to MMOs tbh.
  1. McNeil's Avatar
    I did not expect this. I was hoping that Metzen would join up with Mike Morhaime and become a creative director for Dreamhaven or something. Feels like we have way to many different studios made by former Blizzard employees. They should just all combine and call themselves ''The Real Blizzard'' while starting all over with new IP's.
  1. Tiev's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by McNeil View Post
    I did not expect this. I was hoping that Metzen would join up with Mike Morhaime and become a creative director for Dreamhaven or something. Feels like we have way to many different studios made by former Blizzard employees. They should just all combine and call themselves ''The Real Blizzard'' while starting all over with new IP's.
    LOL that would be hilarious.

    They all gather up and create Snowstorm tm.
  1. Brenugae's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Diatribe View Post
    So many Blizzard vets are leaving the company now. I wonder what they know that we dont?
    I was curious because I keep seeing posts like this, so I checked and the average length of time employees work for their current employer is 4.6 years, according to the Bureau of Labour Statistics. This dude lasted nearly three times your average tenure while working at Blizzard. I'm sure they take shitty working conditions into consideration when they poll these numbers, what information do you have that would imply the length of time this dude worked at Blizzard was shorter than normal? Have you created a scenario in your mind because you have a chip on your shoulder and you're looking for anything, literally anything, to justify your prejudice? Some things to think about, it might make you less miserable.
  1. Exkrementor's Avatar
    All the good Blizzard people are jumping ship. I wonder why...
  1. Nize's Avatar
    The Horde has given up the title of Warchief...

    ...But the TRUE Warchief hasn't!
  1. ExtremelyCrusty's Avatar
    Hopefully he can still lend his voice to WoW characters in the future.
  1. Utrrabbit's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by misterrium View Post
    i am sorry but respect to ION?????
    Ion does a good job. The people bashing him are toxic children. Nothing more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jesscal11 View Post
    I can never take what Chris Metzen is saying seriously, he gives me massive pathological liar type vibes.

    Like the scripted story of moving from the house to the garage to the 2000 sq ft space? Totally made up. Boring.

    GL Chris you haven't been missed from wow, table top games are a dead end but I'm sure you have enough money to do anything and not give a damn. *shrug*
    Lol...not even close.
  1. Mrbleedinggums's Avatar
    Activision better be sweetening up any OG Warcraft devs if they want any chance of surviving at this point.
  1. Kralljin's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by RoKPaNda View Post
    Yeah that worked so well for Classic past the initial hype.
    Yeah, because things such as one button rotations, insane class imbalances, 1-3 mechanic(s) boss encounters or utterly broken PvP systems is essential to old school RPG's.
    Not to mention that Blizzard made it objectively worse by sticking strictly to the 1.12 code.

    Maybe you should seperate the issues that simply stem from the game being made in 2005 from the philosophy that was applied to create the game.
  1. Absintheminded's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Zylos View Post
    Literally just 2 rich guys promoting their hobby project.
    ...which is assuredly going to be insanely high-quality and consumer-oriented...
  1. Wries's Avatar
    All OG people who gave a shit are gone and now we get fairy wings paid DLC.
  1. Nightstalker's Avatar
    And 2 more cult of personality projects that have yet to deliver on anything.
  1. RoKPaNda's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Kralljin View Post
    Yeah, because things such as one button rotations, insane class imbalances, 1-3 mechanic(s) boss encounters or utterly broken PvP systems is essential to old school RPG's.
    Not to mention that Blizzard made it objectively worse by sticking strictly to the 1.12 code.

    Maybe you should seperate the issues that simply stem from the game being made in 2005 from the philosophy that was applied to create the game.
    So it's Blizzard's fault? What about the dozens of games that tried to recreate that golden age of MMOs and failed miserably? Ironically the only other MMO that's been largely successful is one that copied WoW's later ideas and that's FFXIV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wries View Post
    All OG people who gave a shit are gone and now we get fairy wings paid DLC.
    I'm sure that's nothing to do with the MMO / gaming in general market right now and everything to do with a handful of people leaving Blizzard.

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