WoW Classic Version 1.13.7 PTR is Now Available

Originally Posted by Exkrementor

Removing content. Yeah, because thats gonna happen. Gees, people these days...

Disabling WB is more like actually adding content than removing it.
Being able to faceroll the content by having double the intended power is not making the game better.

i dont get it i dont see the point of this ptr build. I started playing mid be so if some1 can clue me that would be great

Originally Posted by lolmmofuture

rip no changes

And may it rest in pepperonies. Classic needed changes and is finally getting some. Important is the spirit of classic, not if there is spell batching, something they needed because of 56k modems and a latency that was extremely bad, not because it is neccessary nowadays.

Originally Posted by chorx

"Square" aspect ratios are objectively better. It's funny that they seem to be in style again (at least professionally). I've seen people rocking huge 4:3s more and more at work lately.

Lol I feel stupider just reading this.

Unless you live in Gambia no one is using 4:3.

Originally Posted by DuskSP

Lol I feel stupider just reading this.

Unless you live in Gambia no one is using 4:3.

Having an extra 4:3 display for retro games is pretty legit. I've no idea how they are/aren't for professional usage though.

OT: Good change.

Originally Posted by aeuhe4yxzhds

Sad, they at least could have reduced it to 200ms or 150ms, noticeable but not much of a problem for ADD-kids

They still might. This is their initial starting point. I believe TBC has somewhere in the range of 200ms, although I can't find a source.

The main problem with the batch window in Classic was that they put EVERYTHING on the batch window. Which was just lazy. Now people have gotten used to "cleverly using" the batch window to their advantage, and now almost all of that is gone. Blizzard could have just had spell batching at 200ms for Classic, then lowered it slightly for TBC to more closely mirror the feel of TBC.

As I have said, and will continue to say... The feeling of authenticity is more important than 100% adhering to the "authentic" numbers from Classic. Something Blizzard does not understand.

Originally Posted by twothe

It is important to understand that this is only affecting PvP and nothing else.

Are you saying the change is only applied to PvP or that Batching only effects PvP?

Because Batching 100% effects PvE. If a mobs damage kills a player, but a heal landed BEFORE the damage and still part of the same batch, the player will still die.

Originally Posted by Velerios

And may it rest in pepperonies. Classic needed changes and is finally getting some. Important is the spirit of classic, not if there is spell batching, something they needed because of 56k modems and a latency that was extremely bad, not because it is neccessary nowadays.

i understand the flaws of spell batching, but unlike the other thigns they changed for the spirit of classic, this i think changes the actual spirit, evne tho spell batching sucked, it allowed for a certain combat. like the possilbity for 2 mages to poly eachother or 2 wars to charge eachother was apart of classic, now with spell batching gone that too will be gone

Originally Posted by Sinyc

They still might. This is their initial starting point. I believe TBC has somewhere in the range of 200ms, although I can't find a source.

The main problem with the batch window in Classic was that they put EVERYTHING on the batch window. Which was just lazy. Now people have gotten used to "cleverly using" the batch window to their advantage, and now almost all of that is gone. Blizzard could have just had spell batching at 200ms for Classic, then lowered it slightly for TBC to more closely mirror the feel of TBC.

As I have said, and will continue to say... The feeling of authenticity is more important than 100% adhering to the "authentic" numbers from Classic. Something Blizzard does not understand.

What happens when you have 40 different opinions on what the “right feeling of authentic” is from various developer and player sources?

In the end, no matter what is picked there will be posts about it doesn’t “feel” right to them.

Batching has no place in modern gaming

Originally Posted by Argorwal

What happens when you have 40 different opinions on what the “right feeling of authentic” is from various developer and player sources?

In the end, no matter what is picked there will be posts about it doesn’t “feel” right to them.

Good point. I don't know how ActiBlizz should/would handle it. But its painfully obvious they didn't even attempt to get an authentic feeling in Classic (outside of the 400ms batch window).

It's part of the reason every raid up until Naxx was facerolled by every guild in the game. Itemization was based on the latest patch that fixed all the authentic issues that plagued Vanilla WoW up until near the end.

To try to answer your question as myself, there was plenty of feedback in the Beta (mine included directly to Blizzard) that was just ignored. I really wish they would have put more effort into Classic. #NoChanges was and will always be a troll meme, but Blizzard apparently thought the majority of players actually wanted that. Even though the Beta feedback was essentially the opposite.

Edit: To add, I have very little faith that TBC won't be just as bad as Classic if not worse. There are actual balance changes that need to be addressed. Otherwise TBC will just be 90% Horde. But as long as millions of people pay their $15 every month what reason does ActiBlizz have to care?