The Great Push - New Mythic+ Tournament
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
We’re thrilled to announce details on our first competitive dungeon one-off tournament of the year. Welcome to The Great Push, coming May 28-30!

For over fourteen years, we’ve sought to explore new ways to push the limits of competitive World of Warcraft. With The Great Push, our first one-off tournament of the year, we are bringing a new style of competitive dungeon running distinct from the foundations set by the Mythic Dungeon International (MDI). Instead of teams fighting to beat their opponent’s time, The Great Push is focused on teams pushing keys as high as they can, striving to out survive their competitors and be crowned the champion!

How The Great Push Works

  • The Great Push stands separate from the MDI. Any team of five players can register for their shot at the $20,000 (USD) prize pool!
  • Teams will compete in the initial qualifier phase, the Proving Grounds, on May 22-23, where teams will be given two dungeon keystone combinations to push to the highest difficulty they can reach on the tournament realm.
  • The top six teams from the qualifier will be invited to the main tournament, where they will compete across the different Shadowlands Dungeons to push their keystones as high as possible.
  • The winning team will be the one who has the highest overall score for dungeons pushed and will be crowned the champion.
  • There are no pre-requisites required to play in the tournament, teams can sign up for The Great Push through May 17!

The tournament will be broadcast live on YouTube and Twitch, and players will also be able to stream their perspectives during the tournament, including their time in the Proving Grounds. You can choose to follow your favorite team and players, while keeping up with the casters for the overall standings throughout the weekend.


Looking Forward

Meanwhile, be sure to tune in to the MDI Global Finals where teams will battle for $300,000 USD on April 23-25, only on YouTube. With Season 1 featuring some of the hardest-fought dungeon runs imaginable, including the closest dungeon finish in MDI history, 2021 is gearing up to be the Mythic Dungeon International’s best year ever. Subscribe to the Warcraft YouTube and don’t forget to follow the WoW Esports Twitter, for the chilliest chills and dankest memes in all of Azeroth. We’ll see you in the Dungeon Finder!
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  1. Thage's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Tesshin83 View Post
    Please stop trying to make this game into a competition.

    Fun for those who participate, but for the rest it creates silly meta playstyles enforced on people which make no sense for people below 20+ keys.
    Pretty much this. I haven't ever seen people in General, Trade, or LFG talking about how excited they are to see the next MDI match, or how they hope to one day get into the MDI and win big. WoW is just not a game well-oriented toward eSports, and Blizzard has been trying to push rope on this for over a decade now ever since they tried getting people hyped up with Arena eSports (I have always felt sorry for the poor fucks hired to commentate Arena and MDI eSports because that shit sounds like the kind of thing that would make me consider the pros and cons of a lobotomy via ballpoint pen).

    WoW doesn't work as an eSport because there's no sense of balance. eSports are interesting when the meta allows for numerous strategies and picks, turning it into a game of feints and feeling out the other team's ability. eSports in games like WoW and Overwatch are Cookie Cutter Meta Team A versus Cookie Cutter Meta Team B almost unanimously. There's a reason Blizzard's eSports have been in freefall while LoL, CS:GO, and COD remain strong performers, and the harder they try to shove a square peg into a round hole, the worse their games suffer for it.

    Dungeons have become boring and uninspired in terms of map design. Very rarely does a modern WoW dungeon feel like an enemy stronghold or a location that could be out there in the world, they feel like maps that have been designed with performance in eSports in mind. This is best exemplified with The MOTHERLODE!!, a literal circle with boss chambers along the way. Blizzard's modern dungeon design philosophy has been so exceptionally uninspiring that I can't be assed to push into Mythic anymore, not only because they skullfucked drop rates and how much gear you get from the weekly chest, but also because it doesn't feel like I'm pushing into enemy territory, it feels like I should be discussing with my team whether to peek banana.
  1. Samuraijake's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Thage View Post
    Pretty much this. I haven't ever seen people in General, Trade, or LFG talking about how excited they are to see the next MDI match, or how they hope to one day get into the MDI and win big. WoW is just not a game well-oriented toward eSports, and Blizzard has been trying to push rope on this for over a decade now ever since they tried getting people hyped up with Arena eSports (I have always felt sorry for the poor fucks hired to commentate Arena and MDI eSports because that shit sounds like the kind of thing that would make me consider the pros and cons of a lobotomy via ballpoint pen).

    WoW doesn't work as an eSport because there's no sense of balance. eSports are interesting when the meta allows for numerous strategies and picks
    also because it doesn't feel like I'm pushing into enemy territory, it feels like I should be discussing with my team whether to peek banana.
    u sayin u dont like to watch DH + fire mage + ww all day on both teams all day through the entire competition?
  1. jackofwind's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by erifwodahs View Post
    M+ above 15 is not casual in the same way as mythic raids are not casual.
    M+ is the best thing added to wow ever, it gives people something hard to do of their raid hours, makes dungeons viable again and you can do it in a tight group of friends or complete pug.
    Vomit. Time-based difficulty is boring and contrived.
  1. rhorle's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by tru View Post
    So they bringing something new like this in on the heels of they just laid people off that would have promoted it? Lol
    The e-sports people were related to in-person events which won't be happening for a while because of COVID-19. They still retained those for online/remote e-sports. Weird how things work right?
  1. erifwodahs's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by jackofwind View Post
    Vomit. Time-based difficulty is boring and contrived.
    we have mythic raiding for non time based ones. They also have soft or hard timed mechanics called enrage or DPS checks
  1. rhorle's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Samuraijake View Post
    #MilkThoseSheep
    How can they milk something when it is free to enter? Maybe move on to some other game/venue to complain about if Blizzard is so terrible.
  1. GUZ's Avatar
    I see these things and immediately think ha gheyyy
  1. kaintk's Avatar
    dont they fired all the people from event like this and 1 month later , making another event like this ?

    wth ?
  1. erifwodahs's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Samuraijake View Post
    how soon until Torghast world competition:

    gather your torghast teams and see who can get the most anima in 30 minutes

    prize pool : $1500 dollars watch on youtube may 29th

    #MilkThoseSheep #KotickYatch37 #Fire800MoreEmployees
    So... blizzard is at fault for organizing free entry events with a prizepool? I mean they certainly are shits sometimes, like they MDI toy thing, but if you are going to bitch about this at least ask someone to help you out, because this is some 70 IQ shit.
  1. Samuraijake's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by erifwodahs View Post
    So... blizzard is at fault for organizing free entry events with a prizepool? I mean they certainly are shits sometimes, like they MDI toy thing, but if you are going to bitch about this at least ask someone to help you out, because this is some 70 IQ shit.
    never said blizz was at fault for anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaintk View Post
    dont they fired all the people from event like this and 1 month later , making another event like this ?

    wth ?
    yep sure do.
  1. Kumorii's Avatar
    Actually sounds much better in theory than MDI.... Gonna watch and see, will be more fun to see pushing high keys rather than steamrolling "low" ones.
  1. Relapses's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Stardrift View Post
    Failing at creating an eSports scene is something Blizzard isn't new to.
    And pointless impotent cynicism apparently isn't something you're unfamiliar with either. eSports event exposure is some of the easiest, low overhead marketing available to Blizzard, they'd be complete fucking morons to not at least try to tap into it at a competitive level. The MDI clearly isn't working as well as they would like so they're trying a different angle. A healthy eSports scene would only stand to enrichen the longterm stability of WoW but instead of even attempting to understand the underlying reasons for Blizzard to conduct these types of events instead you'd rather bitch about the fact that they're running their billion dollar gaming franchise without consulting you personally first. Get the fuck over yourself.
  1. Samuraijake's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by erifwodahs View Post
    we have mythic raiding for non time based ones. They also have soft or hard timed mechanics called enrage or DPS checks
    technically mythic raids are timed on the basis that they have ... enrage "Timers"
  1. Kumorii's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by stutt- View Post
    20k prize pools. Valve is out there giving Dota 2 millions. Blizzard is really a joke now.
    Valve? Isn't majority of the prize pool crowdfunded through the tournament shop stuff?
  1. Samuraijake's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Kumorii View Post
    Actually sounds much better in theory than MDI.... Gonna watch and see, will be more fun to see pushing high keys rather than steamrolling "low" ones.
    youtube videos are already out for this kind of thing though.... right now... as we speak.
  1. Kumorii's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Samuraijake View Post
    youtube videos are already out for this kind of thing though.... right now... as we speak.
    Cool beans...
  1. jackofwind's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by erifwodahs View Post
    we have mythic raiding for non time based ones. They also have soft or hard timed mechanics called enrage or DPS checks
    Encounter timers/enrages aren't the same thing at all as having the entire event timed which completely dictates the overall strategy meta and promotes stupid things like extensive pack-skipping and huge meme aoe pulls.

    There is no non-timer focused challenging 5-man group content in the game, and Mythic Dungeons would have been vastly better system if they were focused on scaling levels of extremely unforgiving/demanding mechanics and didn't revolve around running against an arbitrary clock.
  1. Samuraijake's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Kumorii View Post
    Cool beans...
    here you go +26.. enjoy that excitement you were looking for... hit replay a few times if you want


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfsymjwHBBA
  1. Cæli's Avatar
    if they want to make such an event cared about... multiply the price reward by x100
  1. jackofwind's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Samuraijake View Post
    technically mythic raids are timed on the basis that they have ... enrage "Timers"
    Raid boss encounters having enrage timers =/= Mythic raids as a whole being timed.

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