The Great Push - New Mythic+ Tournament

Are you people really trying to justify your own disdain for this?


Why do you feel compelled to explain why you don't like this if you aren't going to participate it it/watch it/have anything to do with it?


We do not need to hear your internal monologue on why you people hate everything, no matter how dull the voice is.

Originally Posted by KOUNTERPARTS

Why do you feel compelled to explain why you don't like this if you aren't going to participate it it/watch it/have anything to do with it?

Its a forum and this is the current discussion topic...Why did you feel the need to voice your own inner voice?

Originally Posted by Azaile-

Its a forum and this is the current discussion topic...Why did you feel the need to voice your own inner voice?

No discussion to be had when it's people shamelessly shitting on everybody else's opinions. The first 4 pages show this. Do not reply to me with nonsense.

Originally Posted by KOUNTERPARTS

Are you people really trying to justify your own disdain for this?


Why do you feel compelled to explain why you don't like this if you aren't going to participate it it/watch it/have anything to do with it?


We do not need to hear your internal monologue on why you people hate everything, no matter how dull the voice is.

There's no need to justify our opinions bud, that's the point. I could see maybe there being an argument if people were posting on non WoW forums, non gaming forums, random places etc about their disdain of WoW pushing balance based on failed esports. This is a post about mdi and any opinions on it are perfectly topical.

We don't need to hear you any more than you need to hear us.

p.s. - there is an ignore function, feel free to use it on anyone whose opinion you don't want to read, including mine (already ignored you so it's only fair!)

Originally Posted by KOUNTERPARTS

We do not need to hear your internal monologue on why you people hate everything, no matter how dull the voice is.

And no one needs to hear why people like it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Should the mods just remove the capability to comment?

Originally Posted by erifwodahs

we have mythic raiding for non time based ones. They also have soft or hard timed mechanics called enrage or DPS checks

Hate to break it to you, buy raiding is also time based.

never heard of enrage timers?

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Originally Posted by kaintk

dont they fired all the people from event like this and 1 month later , making another event like this ?

wth ?

the people were LIVE EVENTS this is not live.

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Originally Posted by stutt-

20k prize pools. Valve is out there giving Dota 2 millions. Blizzard is really a joke now.

1. valve also is a far larger company then blizzard, right out owning steam, the biggest fucking online gaming marketplace ever
2. this is not the "major tournoment" of the year like dota's is, this is just a small tournoment for fun.

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Originally Posted by Daemos daemonium

They already have a prize pools of over 4M for other Kotick related things.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.shac...ch%3famphtml=1

^^^ just this is not a major tournament, nor one that requires a fee to enter, this is literally one anyone and their mother can enter.

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Originally Posted by Argorwal

Absolutely.

Any game with math and choice has a meta.

It has to, because like you said, math.

The guides just do the math and summarize it for the masses.

People dont get sometimes that literally fucking anything can have a meta

fucking pokemon FUCKING POKEMON HAS AN INSANELY MASSIVE META

Originally Posted by FelPlague

1. valve also is a far larger company then blizzard, right out owning steam, the biggest fucking online gaming marketplace ever
2. this is not the "major tournoment" of the year like dota's is, this is just a small tournoment for fun.

Can you back that up with numbers? As far as I can tell, Activision Blizzard has more employees, more revenue, more equity and more assets than Valve. This is from their respective wiki sites. Where did you get that Valve is bigger?

Originally Posted by jackofwind

And I could view an entire major league sports season as one long game with extended intermissions, but that wouldn't make it true.

Yeah, 30-120minutes blown up to multiple months is exactly the same as going from a 12 min encounter to 30-40 min experience.

Atleast in m+ I have a reason to push people forward. Nothing worse than a healer that need 10 seconds to find his water in his bags.

Originally Posted by Nite92

What is the problem with the prize pool?

Unless you already play the game as your job (with sponsors and that shit) the amount of training required to place even decently is so far out there, the prize pool is pretty much a joke for any kind of competitive scene and won't really allow people to sustain themselves.

Originally Posted by Utrrabbit

Because A LOT of people enjoy esports over super boring and uninteresting things like a snoozefest football or baseball game.

Id rather watvh the MDI than any boring sports match.

Esports themselves are great, for games where it works like CS:GO, Dota, LoL etc. It's good fun to watch for sure.

For WoW however it does more harm than good to the game itself and the viewcount for both the MDI and arena doesn't justify them ruining the game for everybody who isn't interested in either.

Originally Posted by KOUNTERPARTS

No discussion to be had when it's people shamelessly shitting on everybody else's opinions. The first 4 pages show this. Do not reply to me with nonsense.

The response hasnt been great... but again the point of a forum is to have a place to voice opinions of the news. Its not good news it wont get good responses. We dont have to love everything they do, and we are justified in voicing our displeasure. Stop trying to gatekeep the forums.

Originally Posted by Azaile-

The response hasnt been great... but again the point of a forum is to have a place to voice opinions of the news. Its not good news it wont get good responses. We dont have to love everything they do, and we are justified in voicing our displeasure. Stop trying to gatekeep the forums.

You aren't reading what I wrote. It's not about people voicing their displeasure.

Originally Posted by LordVargK

Hopefully this replaces the MDI entirely. Letting the community participate and not just some chosen teams is the key for any esport. On that note, if Blizz really wants to make m+ into an esport it needs to have tournaments within the actual game, with normal player characters. Nobody is invested in throwaway template characters on the tournament realm.

Well put, exactly my thoughts as well.

Originally Posted by Aekero

Can you back that up with numbers? As far as I can tell, Activision Blizzard has more employees, more revenue, more equity and more assets than Valve. This is from their respective wiki sites. Where did you get that Valve is bigger?

Activsion blizzard =/= blizzard.

Originally Posted by KOUNTERPARTS

You aren't reading what I wrote. It's not about people voicing their displeasure.

obviously not everyone agrees, but again, until you show me a badge... stop policing it.

Originally Posted by Stardrift

It's money from Acti-Blizz that could go towards something else.

What, you think that money just comes from thin air?

IF this wasn't happening, the money wouldn't be spent at all. Also, the money for this does not come from WoW's budget.

Originally Posted by Azaile-

obviously not everyone agrees, but again, until you show me a badge... stop policing it.

I will call out people who attack other's opinions by justifying it with their own opinions. It's not my problem you don't understand the difference.

Originally Posted by Azaile-

The response hasnt been great... but again the point of a forum is to have a place to voice opinions of the news. Its not good news it wont get good responses. We dont have to love everything they do, and we are justified in voicing our displeasure. Stop trying to gatekeep the forums.

People are justified in voicing their pleasure too. Your opinion is not the only one allowed here. Stop crapping on those that like things you don't.

Originally Posted by rrayy

People are justified in voicing their pleasure too. Your opinion is not the only one allowed here. Stop crapping on those that like things you don't.

if people want this great, have your say. We need voices from both sides if we want to see how accepted this action actually is. but just because you want is no reason to try to discredit the people who dont. were all valid.

Definitely at least a little more interesting than MDI. But let's be honest, the only PvE tournament that would be at all interesting to watch would have to be some kind of King of the Hill format, where random challeneges are thrown at the teams and they fight for who can survive the longest.