Lich King Arthas Premium Statue, Diablo II: Resurrected Technical Alpha & Press Kit

Originally Posted by Daemos daemonium

There all about the same size I believe and cost 180 or so. I have no idea if you can get them pre painted or not through.


https://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA...Mortarion-2020
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA...d?&Pmp=classic

The recommended painting is sold separately at the bottom, and obviously unless you're very good at that sort of thing yourself you're going to need someone to paint it which, yeah, will add a couple hundred dollars to the mix all told, and finally you gotta assemble the whole thing. The Magnus figurine, to use only that example, still has details as good or better than the Arthas statue, and all told is sure to cost about half if maybe a bit more than that. And GW minis are already expensive as it is.

People can buy what they wish. I have a couple Funko Pops myself, sundry posters and prints, bottles of alcohol I mostly bought for their collectible value to me, and a Doomguy statue, I'm not saying I'm above such things. But 1100$ USD for a fairly detailed but not that well painted Arthas? It seems grossly overpriced as far as I'm concerned, even in the realm of already-overpriced collectible crap that does nothing but sit on shelves.

Originally Posted by Jastall

The recommended painting is sold separately at the bottom, and obviously unless you're very good at that sort of thing yourself you're going to need someone to paint it which, yeah, will add a couple hundred dollars to the mix all told, and finally you gotta assemble the whole thing. The Magnus figurine, to use only that example, still has details as good or better than the Arthas statue, and all told is sure to cost about half if maybe a bit more than that. And GW minis are already expensive as it is.

People can buy what they wish. I have a couple Funko Pops myself, sundry posters and prints, bottles of alcohol I mostly bought for their collectible value to me, and a Doomguy statue, I'm not saying I'm above such things. But 1100$ USD for a fairly detailed but not that well painted Arthas? It seems grossly overpriced as far as I'm concerned, even in the realm of already-overpriced collectible crap that does nothing but sit on shelves.

Ya I saw the recommend paints but I’m not a model guy so I didn’t know if you could pay extra to get it pre painted or what, from what your saying I’m guessing you have to outsource it?

As far as the price goes I would agree arthas is a bit out of whack when you can get one of theses for around the same price.

Originally Posted by Daemos daemonium

Ya I saw the recommend paints but I’m not a model guy so I didn’t know if you could pay extra to get it pre painted or what, from what your saying I’m guessing you have to outsource it?

As far as the price goes I would agree arthas is a bit out of whack when you can get one of theses for around the same price.

Yeah, Citadel/GW don't paint it themselves last I checked (I take most of my info from a friend of mine, never bought Warhammer minis) but it's a service that is offered by third parties. Of course, price and availability will vary by your region and what quality you're looking for. I'm sure a fully professional paintjob from someone who has done it many times over will cost a pretty penny and take a not-insignificant amount of time. But I doubt that, to use him again, the Magnus figurine will come anywhere near 1100 USD even so.

As for your image, I looked up the chunkiest of the titans on display here (this guy unless I'm mistaken) and with all the recommended paintings the total price was less than 200 USD. Now again, you still gotta paint it and assemble it which is no easy task. But the price difference is still quite damning.

Originally Posted by Skulltaker

I don't know, maybe coming from tabletop gaming I'm used to a different level of quality, but saying this thing has an amazing amount of detail when I have Miniatures the size of my index finger with more and better detail on my desk right here, right now, is somewhat weird to me. This is Alpharius, Primarch of the Alpha Legion. He's 5 inches tall, and will set you back 100€. Obviously, he comes unpainted. And him being a Space Marine means that he's somewhere in the middle ground in regards of detail...

Naw mate. That's just one of the super troopers in the corporate defense force. Whenever Blizzard needs a hero that one won't be far.

fml. I just got done paying for the Helm of DOmination now this. What's next they put out Frostmourne again. Give me a few months to recoup my savings. Lool

also, this is a statue for people who can throw 1100 around at the drop of a hat. It's not for people living in trailer parks or who have been out of work. I get your circumstances aren't ideal right now, but this is just how it is. People spend crazy amounts of money on mark-ups all over the place, why would shaped rocks be any different.

Look at what people are willing to spend on GPUS and second market consoles right now. It's where we are right now. If you don't really need it in this economy, then you shouldn't be buying.

If it was reasonably priced, it would be sold out in minutes and we'd have people complaining that blizzard didn't make enough for everyone who could afford it. Blizzard's damned if they do and damned if they don't.

Originally Posted by Jastall

As for your image, I looked up the chunkiest of the titans on display here (this guy unless I'm mistaken) and with all the recommended paintings the total price was less than 200 USD. Now again, you still gotta paint it and assemble it which is no easy task. But the price difference is still quite damning.

I do believe that link is for these guys.



The first picture is from the forgeworld build your own Titan thing I believe which range from 800-2500 for warhound-Warlord.

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-CA/T.../warlord-titan

Originally Posted by Djuntas

I know lol. People think physical games holds the value...Maybe like really old shit like pokemon games for Gameboy, but sure not blizzard games...Tried FB marketplace, and huge online site local to my country,...no lucky...Paid 550 dkk kr back in was it 2007 when TBC come out, and cant even get 800 dkk kr for it without to much hassle from buyers wanting to send it to me (Hell no, aint about to do that).

Actually they do...If I could go back in time i'd load up on the vanilla collectors edition. I sold all the collectors editions in a bundle several years ago on Ebay for over $4000. Last I looked they were more then that.

Originally Posted by Daemos daemonium

There all about the same size I believe and cost 180 or so. I have no idea if you can get them pre painted or not through.


https://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA...Mortarion-2020
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA...d?&Pmp=classic

9cm is still more than half a meter short of that Arthas statue which is 66cm.

So if those 9cm statues are worth 200 dollars then having a statue more than 6 times larger should be worth much more.
Just saying to all those in this thread who are bashing at the price and comparing it to warhammer figures which appear to be significantly smaller.

This Lich King weights 20kg too, thats heavy af.
A 55" 4k TV weights about 22kg (depending on brand i guess) and those things are over 10cm taller and like 5 times wider than this statue.

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Originally Posted by Jastall

Yeah, Citadel/GW don't paint it themselves last I checked (I take most of my info from a friend of mine, never bought Warhammer minis) but it's a service that is offered by third parties. Of course, price and availability will vary by your region and what quality you're looking for. I'm sure a fully professional paintjob from someone who has done it many times over will cost a pretty penny and take a not-insignificant amount of time. But I doubt that, to use him again, the Magnus figurine will come anywhere near 1100 USD even so.

As for your image, I looked up the chunkiest of the titans on display here (this guy unless I'm mistaken) and with all the recommended paintings the total price was less than 200 USD. Now again, you still gotta paint it and assemble it which is no easy task. But the price difference is still quite damning.

The figurine you checked is only 6 inches tho... the Arthas statue is 26", more than thrice the size and also more detailed if you look at the model-designs... those titans have huge platings on them which is basically quite flat surface while arthas doesnt have anything flat on him except the blade of his sword maybe.

But there are these too tho, even more expensive than arthas: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-FI/W...an-Bundle-2019

Originally Posted by Daemos daemonium

There all about the same size I believe and cost 180 or so. I have no idea if you can get them pre painted or not through.


https://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA...Mortarion-2020
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA...d?&Pmp=classic

so hes 16 centimeters? so 6 inches. so thats 1/4th the size. almost 200$ for it unpainted. So if we go by that logic then make it the same size, boom 1 to 1, but its 800$ then you gotta paint it, and i will tell ya right now hiring someone to paint THAT is gunan be a lot more then 200$.

(Also yes i know its 16 cm to just the top of the figure, then another 9 cm of wing, but that wing is thin, adding it would just be unfair, and that bit of it will not make up for the rest of the price)

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Originally Posted by Otaka

9cm is still more than half a meter short of that Arthas statue which is 66cm.

So if those 9cm statues are worth 200 dollars then having a statue more than 6 times larger should be worth much more.
Just saying to all those in this thread who are bashing at the price and comparing it to warhammer figures which appear to be significantly smaller.

This Lich King weights 20kg too, thats heavy af.
A 55" 4k TV weights about 22kg (depending on brand i guess) and those things are over 10cm taller and like 5 times wider than this statue.

the figure from bottom to top of its head is 16 cm, then the top of its head to wing tip is 9cm, so no its actually 16 cm, with an extra 9cm of wing above it, so its 4x as big not "more then 6 times as big" dont worry i was confused at first by all the weird mesuring too.

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Originally Posted by Daemos daemonium

I do believe that link is for these guys.



The first picture is from the forgeworld build your own Titan thing I believe which range from 800-2500 for warhound-Warlord.

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-CA/T.../warlord-titan

man your making me jealous, i used to have figures but when i moved i had to tell em to a friend, and now i just dont wanna invest the insane amount of money to buy more and get em painted anymore... plus the place that used to have battles in town downsized so matches are pathetic small.

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Originally Posted by Daemos daemonium

Ya I saw the recommend paints but I’m not a model guy so I didn’t know if you could pay extra to get it pre painted or what, from what your saying I’m guessing you have to outsource it?

As far as the price goes I would agree arthas is a bit out of whack when you can get one of theses for around the same price.

those are the same price, but unpainted. you need to paint them yourselves, or hire someone to, and that is where a large amount of the price comes from.

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Originally Posted by Jastall

As for your image, I looked up the chunkiest of the titans on display here (this guy unless I'm mistaken) and with all the recommended paintings the total price was less than 200 USD. Now again, you still gotta paint it and assemble it which is no easy task. But the price difference is still quite damning.

Hes 110$ USD for 6 inches.
so if we make that the same size of the arthas statue thats 660$ USD.
then you gotta paint it... and depending on the artist, and detail you want that can vary.
so it would likely end up being the same if not more then the arthas statue.
(for reference artists usually take 30-100$ an hour)
I would need to ask my friend hemminator who paints minis how long it would take for something like that, cause its been waaaay too long for me to remember.








https://www.flgpaintstudio.com/pricing


Hey i found a good one!
For high quality detail like that it seems about 200$ for a 120mm item.

for reference 26 inches is 678mm

so yeaaaah.... easily a thousand or more bucks to paint by that, but to be fair that aint really fair, they do have a thing for larger more unique figures, but that requires you to send em a qoute and i dont wanna bother these people with questions.




but "We offer a Masterclass Paint Service for the exceptional models in your collection. These projects are usually reserved for single models and are painted by our best painters to the limit of their skill. The end result is a display quality miniature that will be the highlight of your collection. These models take several days to paint, and as such we have to charge a premium. Each project is priced individually. Email us with details of your project and we will shoot you back a quote"


They use the example shown above of the guy with the wings and horns and polearm, and speaking it says "several days to paint" i am sure it would cost atleast a grand.


oh alos dont forget the warhammer figures you also need to assemble... that alone can take a fair while, and always at the risk of fucking it up, that alone adds a price. but it depends per figure with how many tiny bits and birttle parts.

Originally Posted by FelPlague

Can you point out where the lack of quality is? People keep saying "shitty quality pisspoor paint job" but where? All the pictures it's painting is stunning.

I guess art is subjective. One persons stunning is another persons cheap looking poorly painted tat.

Originally Posted by Deadite

I guess art is subjective. One persons stunning is another persons cheap looking poorly painted tat.

I mean yes, but people can say the Moana Lisa looks like dogshit, and that's their opinion, but come on.

Originally Posted by Otaka

9cm is still more than half a meter short of that Arthas statue which is 66cm.

So if those 9cm statues are worth 200 dollars then having a statue more than 6 times larger should be worth much more.
Just saying to all those in this thread who are bashing at the price and comparing it to warhammer figures which appear to be significantly smaller.

This Lich King weights 20kg too, thats heavy af.
A 55" 4k TV weights about 22kg (depending on brand i guess) and those things are over 10cm taller and like 5 times wider than this statue.

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The figurine you checked is only 6 inches tho... the Arthas statue is 26", more than thrice the size and also more detailed if you look at the model-designs... those titans have huge platings on them which is basically quite flat surface while arthas doesnt have anything flat on him except the blade of his sword maybe.

But there are these too tho, even more expensive than arthas: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-FI/W...an-Bundle-2019

Ya I’m not comparing size arthas would be closer the Titans which are similar in price. I was just using Magnus an Co as an example of what I think others are thinking of when they say arthas is poorly painted as they look super good when done by professionals.

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Originally Posted by FelPlague

so hes 16 centimeters? so 6 inches. so thats 1/4th the size. almost 200$ for it unpainted. So if we go by that logic then make it the same size, boom 1 to 1, but its 800$ then you gotta paint it, and i will tell ya right now hiring someone to paint THAT is gunan be a lot more then 200$.

(Also yes i know its 16 cm to just the top of the figure, then another 9 cm of wing, but that wing is thin, adding it would just be unfair, and that bit of it will not make up for the rest of the price)

Ya getting Magnus and co to be the same size would likely cost as much as one of the higher end titans if they were still as detailed and even that price range would be a steal.

Maybe if WoW and Blizzard was in its prime and height of popularity it was worth paying this much for a name brand statue. With the state of the game and Blizzard overall, i wouldnt pay $150 for it. Last statues I bought and paid full price for were Soldier 76, Mercy and Ragnaros. They started losing their marbles when they released the D.Va mech statue

Originally Posted by Prattle99

Can you please just get the fuck off this site already? You and Daemos do nothing but dicksuck Blizzard at every fucking second. People like you are why they're in the state they are today.

Do the world a favour and contract a strong case of COVID or Cancer and fucking die. The pair of you. Nobody on this site likes you. Faggots.

Seriously this site would be so much better if all the Blizzard cocksuckers just died of cancer in one fell swoop.

Ironic based on the thread i literally just made, but k.

but hey the kinda person to wish people died of cancer and call them F*****s hating me, means im doing something right. cause hey, if you are that horrid of a person and dislike me, must mean im doing well. so thank you, posts like this reinforce the idea that what im doing is right, cause it pisses off people like you who are shitty enough to call people that, and wish they would die of cancer. like wtf is this 2006 xbox live?

Originally Posted by Daemos daemonium

I do believe that link is for these guys.

The first picture is from the forgeworld build your own Titan thing I believe which range from 800-2500 for warhound-Warlord.

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-CA/T.../warlord-titan

Right, my mistake on that one, and I thought the price was on the low side as well thinking about it. Factor in the paint and paintjob, and the big chungus Forgeworld Titans definitely have Arthas beat in the price department unless you only field a Warhound.

Originally Posted by FelPlague

I mean yes, but people can say the Moana Lisa looks like dogshit, and that's their opinion, but come on.

The size of the statue allows it a good level of sculpting detail, but it's not that crazy compared to models 1/3rd the size and 1/10th the price. As for the paint job, it's OK. Honestly, it's pretty much what I'd expect for a mass produced statue like this. It's not terrible, but it's DEFINITELY nowhere close to what a professional miniature painter (or even a decent amateur painter with a couple years of experience) should be capable of.

The thing with Arthas is that he's terribly boring in terms of color. Other than the cloak, he's like 90% just shades of grey. This statue in particular looks to be painted in metallic paint which, while totally expected for a mass produced statue of this size, doesn't lend itself to as much depth and detail as a good non-metallic metal paint job. The leather looks pretty flat, not much shading or detail there. The cloak has the bare minimum of highlighting. The base with the undead warriors that you keep touting is like 8 inches in height so not small at all. As other posters have noted, it very clear that much of the paint job is done with a dry brushing technique (a veeeery simple technique done for speed, not quality). I'm actually a bit shocked at how basic the eyes are for a statue this big. It's just dark blue, with a smaller area of light blue, and then a dot of white. His irises aren't really visible after putting on the helm, but there's no glow effect on the surrounding area to give an OSL effect.

I've spent a looooot of money on expensive nerd stuff, and even still this seems massively overpriced.

Originally Posted by Sarnaxxx

I invested money in GameStop - sold everything when I was up $28,000... paid for the first year of my kid's college with GameStop. Bought it around 16$ a share and sold it around 380$ a share.. could've made more if I held up to over 400$ a share but I am happy with the end result.

thats still significantly less than what a chick with big boobs and a camera can get on twitch streams

"From the Vault" is this company lost last pieces of any creativity, and is bluntly coping even the name for similar collectible series from MTG which has been running for years? They cannot even spend just 10 minutes to try to figure out unique name for their series? Just lol.

Originally Posted by Adamas102

The size of the statue allows it a good level of sculpting detail, but it's not that crazy compared to models 1/3rd the size and 1/10th the price. As for the paint job, it's OK. Honestly, it's pretty much what I'd expect for a mass produced statue like this. It's not terrible, but it's DEFINITELY nowhere close to what a professional miniature painter (or even a decent amateur painter with a couple years of experience) should be capable of.

The thing with Arthas is that he's terribly boring in terms of color. Other than the cloak, he's like 90% just shades of grey. This statue in particular looks to be painted in metallic paint which, while totally expected for a mass produced statue of this size, doesn't lend itself to as much depth and detail as a good non-metallic metal paint job. The leather looks pretty flat, not much shading or detail there. The cloak has the bare minimum of highlighting. The base with the undead warriors that you keep touting is like 8 inches in height so not small at all. As other posters have noted, it very clear that much of the paint job is done with a dry brushing technique (a veeeery simple technique done for speed, not quality). I'm actually a bit shocked at how basic the eyes are for a statue this big. It's just dark blue, with a smaller area of light blue, and then a dot of white. His irises aren't really visible after putting on the helm, but there's no glow effect on the surrounding area to give an OSL effect.

I've spent a looooot of money on expensive nerd stuff, and even still this seems massively overpriced.

except issue is they are not 1/3rd the size and 1/10th the price....
they are 1/4th the size, and 1/10th the price AND ALSO UNPAINTED.

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Originally Posted by Rastlin

"From the Vault" is this company lost last pieces of any creativity, and is bluntly coping even the name for similar collectible series from MTG which has been running for years? They cannot even spend just 10 minutes to try to figure out unique name for their series? Just lol.

Yes, Magic the gathering invented the world vault, very good.

Originally Posted by FelPlague

except issue is they are not 1/3rd the size and 1/10th the price....
they are 1/4th the size, and 1/10th the price AND ALSO UNPAINTED.

The Magnus model that other posters were using for comparison is 25cm, making it MORE than 1/3rd the size of this 66cm Arthas statue. Arthas himself only makes up about 2/3rd of this model's height (the rest being the base he sits on). On top of that, these Games Workshop pieces (which can be both gaming and display models) are typically on the upper price range for the market. They're the go-to comparison for their history and quality, but nowadays you can certainly find equally well sculpted and detailed 3D printed models for cheaper.

Either way, this Arthas figure is not an especially detailed piece even given its size, and the paint job is well below the quality of any custom commission that someone would pay more than $100 for. As I said before, it's a mass produced piece, and the painting on it reflects that. It's not terrible, but it's not a $1,000 custom job either.