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    Rawsome foods raided by u.s. government

    just read this article, kind of disturbing. thoughts?

    Rawsome Foods owner, Victoria Bloch was released from jail in LA County last night, but only under the condition that she completely give up her First Amendment rights and refrain from talking to anyone about the case. NaturalNews has confirmed this gag order was placed on Victoria and is also going to be placed on James Stewart and Sharon Palmer as a condition of their release (they are reportedly making bail today and may be home by this evening).

    This gag order is, of course, an effort by the California court system to try to quell the rising tidal wave of public outrage against the armed government raids against a raw dairy farm and private buyer’s club — a raid that many people who witnessed it described, in their own words, as “government terrorism” against the People.

    First, the government attempts to take away their right to engage in commerce and enter private contracts. Then, the government vandalizes this buying club, steals their cash, destroys their entire product inventory and steals the computers from the store. The owners (and conspiring farmers) are arrested at gunpoint and taken to jail without even being read their rights. And finally, to top it off, they are slapped with a gag order which prohibits them having their First Amendment rights so that they might tell their side of the story.

    This is a total assault on freedom by the government.

    NaturalNews has learned that under this gag order, these raw milk advocates are prevented from:

    • Speaking to any member of the press.
    • Tweeting or blogging about the raid.
    • Posting anything on Facebook or websites.
    • Sending emails about the case.
    • Communicating in any way, verbally or non-verbally about the government raids conducted against them.

    Join the online revolt against government-sponsored terrorism of American farmers

    Meanwhile, public outrage is rapidly spreading. A viral Tweet campaign has been launched that has people tweeting #rawesome and#farmageddon across the web (http://www.naturalnews.com/033243_ra...ial_media.html), and a new video has just been posted by Sarah Brown that interviewed several people who witnessed the raid. Watch this video to see government terrorists stealing computers and business files from Rawesome Foods:
    http://naturalnews.tv/v.asp?v=C3E893...B97B579F08F7F5

    or see it on YouTube at:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzlrSCqTBBE

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    I'm pretty sure the government is there to enforce things like the first amendment, not take it away. >.<

    I'm watching the youtube vid now, can I get an explanation on why selling these products warrants the police stealing from and silencing the rights of these farmers?
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    Wow, that is harsh if true. try that in Europe and you will have mass riots on your hands, is this down to that Patriot act you guys have?

    Try to explain it in laymans terms please, i am not too familiar with your justice system.

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    no these are false accusations by law enforcement that will not hold up in court. but the fact that they raided them, stole their money, product, and business materials, will undoubtedly put them out of business.
    this is a strong arm tactic by government, on behalf of big agraculture, to stomp out any competition in business. raw foods are the healthiest period, all store bought foods are gmo infested. GMO (genetically modified organizm) are known to cause permanent infertility after 3 generations in rats. no official human studies have been done.

    watch this documentary, food inc. for more information on the subject.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEu27wZZtHI

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePalidius View Post
    no these are false accusations by law enforcement that will not hold up in court. but the fact that they raided them, stole their money, product, and business materials, will undoubtedly put them out of business.
    this is a strong arm tactic by government, on behalf of big agraculture, to stomp out any competition in business. raw foods are the healthiest period, all store bought foods are gmo infested. GMO (genetically modified organizm) are known to cause permanent infertility after 3 generations in rats. no official human studies have been done.

    watch this documentary, food inc. for more information on the subject.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEu27wZZtHI
    That sounds more like a conspiracy theory to me, have we got any actual facts on why these guys were raided?

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    Looks like no.

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    If there is a gag order in effect, and it hasn't been broken, how can we possibly know what's happened? More facts please.

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    what stuff do these guys sale? is it unhealthy? poisoned? unhealthy? the government must have reasons to shut it down
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eightace View Post
    Wow, that is harsh if true. try that in Europe and you will have mass riots on your hands, is this down to that Patriot act you guys have?

    Try to explain it in laymans terms please, i am not too familiar with your justice system.
    judging by the total lack of information I would have to say this is probably because this country has laws that regulate food being sold to the general public in large quantities.. the FDA (which has absolutely nothing to do with the patriot act) has ridiculous regulations on all sorts of food products primarily to keep people safe..

    milk sold in large quantities is required to be "homogenized" which basically makes it safe to drink... I guess you can think of it as drinking water from a stream.. the water may be crystal clear and perfect in every way.. but unless you have the ability to prove that first.. you probably still want to add the drop of bleach or boil it first before drinking it..

    not to mention there are probably issues with illegal immigrants working at these farms.. which is a whole other set of problems

    but no.. the patriot act deals with international threats.. so if you're making calls from the USA to your terrorist friends in afghanistan.. you might get caught! of course you can still call your terrorist friends in Oregon without being monitored though..

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    I could be wrong, but it sounds like they don't have permits for selling any of that, and were trying to be clever by saying "people aren't buying our product, they're getting their share of what we've accumulated.

    Given that the Department of Agriculture and the CDC were in on the raid, leads me to believe there's more going on here than what's being told by this one source, who are also producing a movie.

    I for one would like to know more, and hear about why the government would use resources on this.
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    Oh for the love of crap. Watch the video.
    "We want raw dairy, they want to pasteurize our dairy!"

    Do people realize that all dairy is required by law to be pasteurized in the United States unless you have a special license? It's why our cheese will never be as good as it is in Europe, but seriously.

    And the whole 'they were never read their rights!' bit? The only people saying that this happened are the raw food activists. There are no other witnesses, no way to disprove this claim, only heresay.
    Last edited by Herecius; 2011-08-06 at 04:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eightace View Post
    That sounds more like a conspiracy theory to me, have we got any actual facts on why these guys were raided?
    Sharon Ann Palmer, 51 (dob 04/14/1960), James Cecil Stewart, 64 (dob 07/26/1947) and Eugenie Victoria Bloch, 58 (03/17/1953) were charged in a 13-count complaint, BA 385253, which includes four conspiracy counts. Stewart and Bloch were expected to appear in Department 30 in the Foltz Criminal Justice Center Thursday for arraignment, said Deputy District Attorney Kelly Sakir of the District Attorney’s Environmental Law Section. Palmer’s arraignment hearing has not been set.

    Palmer owns Healthy Family Farms, LLC, in Santa Paula, which prosecutors allege has operated without any type of license or permit for milk production since 2007. The business Healthy Family Farms and Palmer are charged in nine of the 13 counts. Bloch works for Palmer and is charged in three conspiracy counts.

    Stewart runs the Venice market Rawesome, which has been in operation for more than six years but has never had any type of business permit or license, prosecutors allege. Stewart is facing 13 counts.

    During a year-long investigation, investigators made undercover purchases of unpasteurized dairy products from Healthy Family Farms stands at Los Angeles, Ventura and Santa Barbara county farmers markets and at Rawesome. The products included unpasteurized goat milk, cheese, yogurt and kefir.

    The investigation found that Healthy Family Farms and Rawesome customers were required to pay a membership fee of up to $50, or purchase a one-time “day pass” at Rawesome to purchase products there. Bloch reportedly informed undercover operatives that the membership payments and paperwork were needed for “legal” reasons, and they were not supposed to sell dairy products to nonmembers.

    In a case cited in the 21-page complaint, an undercover investigator received goat milk, stored in a cooler in the back of Healthy Family Farms van, in the parking lot of a grocery store.

    While it is lawful to manufacture and sell unpasteurized dairy products in California, applicable licenses and permits are required. These include regular veterinarian inspections of the animals and following equipment and sanitation requirements.

    a direct quote from the district attorney's office. http://da.co.la.ca.us/mr/default.htm

    the truth about said raid will come out.

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    Were they possibly breaking the law by selling product "underground" that did not pass federal and state safety standards, and had they been told to cease their operations prior to the raid? If so it is warranted and they should have seen it coming. Also, gag orders are often used when people being investigated for these types of thing are released and charges are pending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bone123 View Post
    what stuff do these guys sale? is it unhealthy? poisoned? unhealthy? the government must have reasons to shut it down
    food, healthy, unpoisoned, no, and if you just believe what the government tells you, just because they are the government and must have reasons, without asking what these reasons are, you are failing in logic and discovery of the truth miserably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePalidius View Post
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    That sounds like a long list of legitimate reasons to conduct a raid and make some arrests. It doesn't matter if it's 'healthy and unpoisoned,' you need a permit to sell food. You need special permits to sell unpasteurized dairy, and many states don't even go that far, just banning it altogether.

    No offense, but this whole thing has the same stink that I get when I see PETA making an activist-related press release. It's the same thing there - don't get me wrong, I love animals, just like in this case, I certainly love food - but many activist groups have this thing about sensationalizing and twisting the truth of a story until it's twisted and unrecognizable.
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    So they were breaking the law and are now paying the price, nothing to see here, move on people.

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    But in America, raw or unpasteurized milk is a substance that requires a license to make and sell. And prosecutors say Rawesome Foods has been selling it for years without permits.
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    The recent act [...] was authorized by a woman named Michelle LeCavalier. She signed the warrant which stated that she believed there was property at Rawesome Foods that was "used as the means of committing a felony."
    they do stuff against the law and complaining about being shut down?
    Time waits for no one.
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    They broke the law repeatedly. They were arrested. I see no issue here?

    And that post about the effects of genetically modified organisms is just nonsense. Infertility? How on earth could GMOs cause infertility? You realise selective breeding is artificial genetic modification right?

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    If there is a law against selling unpasteurised dairy produce without a specific license, and they sold unpasteurised dairy produce without said licensse, they really had it coming IMO.

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