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    Quote Originally Posted by Saithes View Post
    Peltier's and Phase Change is just extremely inefficient when it comes to cost/performance. A good phase change system can run you $900+ easy and is loud lol. Peltiers draw insane amounts of power constantly and don't give a significant enough boost for the power draw. Not to mention you also have to be able to cool how ever many watts are being drawn.
    I'm still waiting for the temperatures . How much better is it compared to the normal liquid cooling? Technically you could put some anti-freeze in the loop and cool it down to the subzero temps. Will produce hell of lot heat outside the system and rise your electric bills to the abnormal levels but might be worth it (if you have the money) .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghâzh View Post
    I'm still waiting for the temperatures . How much better is it compared to the normal liquid cooling? Technically you could put some anti-freeze in the loop and cool it down to the subzero temps. Will produce hell of lot heat outside the system and rise your electric bills to the abnormal levels but might be worth it (if you have the money) .
    But would antifreeze compare to liquid helium/nitrogen? I get the feeling it wouldn't. =S
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saithes View Post
    Peltier's and Phase Change is just extremely inefficient when it comes to cost/performance. A good phase change system can run you $900+ easy and is loud lol. Peltiers draw insane amounts of power constantly and don't give a significant enough boost for the power draw. Not to mention you also have to be able to cool how ever many watts are being drawn.
    Depends on the wattage of those pelltier's, these ones on the CoolIT are only like 25W each and have a control to lower that down to about 10W each. But you can get them upwards of 90W or 120W and they get quite hot/cold as a result.

    Biggest issue with over-the-top cooling is that you can end up with condensation and if you're not properly prepared to handle it, you'll have an extremely bad day.

    Again my loop keeps my 2600 quite low, at near or sub ambient temperature (<20C) even under moderate load. I can post some temps later on when I get time. Keeping in mind too I haven't as of yet tried to OC the 2600, I only just got it :P
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    Of course not but can you run liquid helium/nitrogen in your every day setup for longer than a few minutes without running in to serious problems? :P That's more of like a short term solution for checking how far can you push the overclock whereas peltier's type of system can be used in more practical use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghâzh View Post
    Of course not but can you run liquid helium/nitrogen in your every day setup for longer than a few minutes without running in to serious problems? :P That's more of like a short term solution for checking how far can you push the overclock whereas peltier's type of system can be used in more practical use.
    I wouldn't call using a pelltier practical, the only reason I even have them is because they came as a trio in a really nice self contained system. Otherwise using a retail variety of tec plate you're looking at a full watercooling loop, a lapped copper buffer plate between the TEC and CPU, likely insulated against condensation, a secondary PSU etc.

    A "chop shop" setup for pelltiers is way out in left field and very expensive.

    MSRP on my Eliminator was $349 at the time. Cost more than my case...well only by a bit D:
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    Said *more* practical .

    And I need to seriously start considering finding some pictures of my setup already. I can almost feel the burning gaze of Tetrisgoat on my back, thinking of banning me because I don't provide anything concrete to the topic :<.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TradewindNQ View Post
    Depends on the wattage of those pelltier's, these ones on the CoolIT are only like 25W each and have a control to lower that down to about 10W each. But you can get them upwards of 90W or 120W and they get quite hot/cold as a result.

    Biggest issue with over-the-top cooling is that you can end up with condensation and if you're not properly prepared to handle it, you'll have an extremely bad day.

    Again my loop keeps my 2600 quite low, at near or sub ambient temperature (<20C) even under moderate load. I can post some temps later on when I get time. Keeping in mind too I haven't as of yet tried to OC the 2600, I only just got it :P
    Yeah and 25w isn't even worth while lol. I've seen upwards of 300-400w before but they still aren't worth it Lol
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    Well, Delt wanted moar pics -_-

    Headphone holder, because I can't goddamn find a proper one anywhere so this will do:



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    your headphone holder is awesome, i just lay mine on my desk

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    If you don't appreciate the Essence STX and Sennheiser 558s as REAL goods.... I'll gladly take 'em off your hands!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuvial View Post
    Well, Delt wanted moar pics -_-

    Headphone holder, because I can't goddamn find a proper one anywhere so this will do:



    Oh and also ZE REAL GOODS HAF ARRIVED!!

    OMG.. I need to get one of those! Is that just a thread that you used with the bottle?

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    10 quid speakers are pro.

    Btw, is it possible to use that little black thing you get with the Motherboard as a speaker?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Platinus View Post
    OMG.. I need to get one of those! Is that just a thread that you used with the bottle?

    Edit: Just noticed "You're not stealing my fucking code!"
    Just some strong thread so that bottle isn't going anywhere :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Platinus View Post
    10 quid speakers are pro.

    Btw, is it possible to use that little black thing you get with the Motherboard as a speaker?
    Sure if you wanted the sound-frequency range of an AM radio from 30 years ago, and you found a way to twist the cables into a grounded speaker/headphone jack.
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    Why would you even want to use the motherboard speaker....? All it's good for is beeping. x_x

    And what are "10 quid" speakers? Like they cost 10 quid?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuvial View Post
    Sure if you wanted the sound-frequency range of an AM radio from 30 years ago, and you found a way to twist the cables into a grounded speaker/headphone jack.
    I had some software on my old 486 laptop that allowed you to play wave files through the pc speaker, worked very well, sounded like crap

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltrusDisc View Post
    Why would you even want to use the motherboard speaker....? All it's good for is beeping. x_x

    And what are "10 quid" speakers? Like they cost 10 quid?
    I imagine it's a Swedish thing, yeah. (quid)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Notarget View Post
    I imagine it's a Swedish thing, yeah. (quid)
    No. It's a British thing, 1 quid = 1 pound.

    May also be used in surrounding countries (ireland, euro) but in sweden saying quid makes no sense ;o

    Edit. Adding a picture of my old mutilated Acer for making this post look less off-topic.

    It's a C2Q 8400 OC'd at 3.2GHz in there. Or.. there was. Also I switched the way of the CPU fan.
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    spent a good half of the day cleaning up cables around the computer will post them later, but for now goodnight!

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