1. #2881
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    2T12 is waaay stronger than 2T13. 4T13 beats 2T12 tho.

  2. #2882
    Okay, okay! I have got it confirmed now. :p

    ---------- Post added 2011-12-06 at 12:48 AM ----------

    Regarding haste's unstability at times:
    Code:
    ( Pawn: v1: "Feral Druid Cat (Mew)": Strength=1.69089, Agility=4.50477, Ap=1.61038, CritRating=1.55638, HasteRating=3.23953, MasteryRating=1.6132, HitRating=1.51306, ExpertiseRating=1.51109, MeleeDps=6.32615 [...])
    It's kind of amusing to see how high it can go.
    Last edited by Arctagon; 2011-12-05 at 11:50 PM.

  3. #2883
    Is there anywhere outside the elementium bolt and phase 2 adds we can use charge in the madness of deathwing encounter? Our warrior said he found a sweet spot he can charge the limbs but I've not once been able to do it.

  4. #2884
    Quote Originally Posted by Mihir View Post
    Using the stat weights from the guide, I get to the following values:

    10578 H Kiril, Fury of Beasts
    9515 H Spire of Coagulated Globules
    9370 N Kiril, Fury of Beasts
    8444 N Spire of Coagulated Globules
    8297 RF Kiril, Fury of Beasts
    7904 H Fandral's Flamescythe
    7495 RF Spire of Coagulated Globules

    So it's very good, but not to the extent of surpassing higher ilvl weapons.
    This is still true, right? With four chances for an upgrade next week I just want some reassurance and couldn't find a newer list then this month old one.

  5. #2885
    Quote Originally Posted by Nayto View Post
    Is there anywhere outside the elementium bolt and phase 2 adds we can use charge in the madness of deathwing encounter? Our warrior said he found a sweet spot he can charge the limbs but I've not once been able to do it.
    Cat form charge is a leap and works different then warrior charge, you could do the same in bear form

  6. #2886
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    Cat Charge will always try to put you in the middle of the target's hit box, facing their back. Since the middle of the tentacle/limb is out in the water, this doesn't work.

    ---------- Post added 2011-12-06 at 10:11 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Rioo View Post
    This is still true, right? With four chances for an upgrade next week I just want some reassurance and couldn't find a newer list then this month old one.
    Yep, still seems about right.

  7. #2887
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihir View Post

    2.10.1 Gear list

    BiS:

    Head: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/78694/d - H: Warmaster Blackhorn
    Neck: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71610/c - H: Ragnaros
    Shoulder: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/78368/u - H: Morchock
    Back: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71415/d - H: Lord Rhyolith
    Chest: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/78665/d - H: Ultraxion
    Wrist: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/78446/s - H: Warmaster Blackhorn
    Hands: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/78684/d - H: Warlord Zon'ozz
    Waist: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/78388/b - H: Warlord Zon'ozz
    Legs: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/78713/d - H: Yor'sahj the Unsleeping
    Feet: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/78462/m - H: Spine of Deathwing
    Finger: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/78489/s - H: All except Deathwing
    Finger: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/78413/s - H: Hagara the Stormbinder
    Trinket: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/77994/w - H: Spine of Deathwing
    Trinket: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/77999/v - H: All except Deathwing
    Weapon: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/78473/k - H: Madness of Deathwing
    Relic: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71567/c - VP + Firestone
    First I'd like to tank you guys for the amazing job you've done, it's nice to see such a lovely Kitty-comunity :3

    Then, I'd like to ask the following question: my guild is a casual one, and we won't go into DS HCs at least 'til we'll have killed enough bosses to gear our mates properly. If I wanted a Normal BiS list, shall I simply consider the forementioned list as "normal"? Or would something change? =)
    I know that secondary stats are very close each other (and that mastery is slightly above), but it would be nice to make sure that I won't need on gear that is BiS for someone else and I might replace. :3

    /kitty out/

  8. #2888
    Mihir, is there any response from Blizzard regarding the cat situation on Ultraxion encounter? Are they aware of that? Are they going to fix it and allow face-shredding? Why did they remove the feature? Any information? (I would like to ask the questions myself but I simply don't have US subscription). Thanks in advance!
    once a drood - always a drood!

  9. #2889
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    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3061876917

    Greetings Mihir, Lokìì, Hukilyou and Zheny,

    Normally I’d redirect a report like this to our dedicated bug reporting sticky topic, but I’ve already had a quick check here and I’m sorry to say that the current stance on this particular situation is that it is not a bug, and actually an intended change.

    To this end, if you’d like to submit feedback about the encounter or even just this specific aspect, you’d be better off doing do on the most appropriate non-support forum – in this case, Raids and Dungeons; http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/874704/

    Apologies for being the bearer of bad news though!

  10. #2890
    So we are to apparently be gimped for this encounter with no plans of change? Well i'm going to go check the us forums and see what i can do there

  11. #2891
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cayssaris View Post
    So we are to apparently be gimped for this encounter with no plans of change? Well i'm going to go check the us forums and see what i can do there
    I'm going to try Ultraxion as a feral dps for the first time today, I don't think any guild would replace us with another dps, but it's incredibly annoying not to dish out 100% of our potential in a dps race.
    I checked a lot of threads lately, and there's nothing we can do to improve our dps there. But at least we should be able to get the "last defender of azeroth" to help healers out a little :3

  12. #2892
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    Quote Originally Posted by AtaraxyDarkmoonFaire View Post
    I'm going to try Ultraxion as a feral dps for the first time today, I don't think any guild would replace us with another dps, but it's incredibly annoying not to dish out 100% of our potential in a dps race.
    I personally will bench myself unless a change is incoming. There's no reason to bring my gimped dps over some class that can push 100%.

  13. #2893
    About Ultraxion... As you said Mihir: "Yes you can stay in bearform at the start to get the special tank buff, and no it does not affect berserk / tiger's fury."
    Which cooldowns does that buff affect? Is it only barkskin, SI and FR?

  14. #2894
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    Quote Originally Posted by xrayEU View Post
    About Ultraxion... As you said Mihir: "Yes you can stay in bearform at the start to get the special tank buff, and no it does not affect berserk / tiger's fury."
    Which cooldowns does that buff affect? Is it only barkskin, SI and FR?
    Afaik when i tried it it was just BS SI and FR. ^^

  15. #2895
    Quote Originally Posted by Llilja View Post
    I personally will bench myself unless a change is incoming. There's no reason to bring my gimped dps over some class that can push 100%.
    I don't know if i would bench myself seeing as we can get the tank cool downs which will help in keeping the healers keep the DPS up late game which is a crucial part of the encounter. Keeping the DPS up so they can DPS harder that is, and having BS and SI on half the CD and double the duration? that is pretty nice imo, still sucks compared to no shred, but if it helps with the kill it helps.

  16. #2896
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    My plan is to go as 2nd tank in dps spec/gear, and soak the fading lights from our MT (since the tank debuff only lasts 5sec on hc).
    Last edited by mmoc2e7b040398; 2011-12-06 at 05:36 PM.

  17. #2897
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    That's an interesting idea, Mihir. I think I'll take a look at that option too. There's a slight chance I might be useful through the feral 4p, but yeah.. that 15seconds in bear just to activate the bonus makes me cringe. That set bonus in general is making me have mixed feelings as a cat.

  18. #2898
    One of our two 10-man groups had their feral go cat for most of the fight while being the off tank for that and kept running into issues where he would get fading light at the same time as the main tank. So I'm not sure how viable it'd be, or if there's a perfect time that you'd have to swap to bear before each fading light to make it work.

  19. #2899
    When I did this on normal I didn't even bother with bear for the defensive cooldowns, obviously on Heroic it's a bit of a different story. Do we simply start the fight in bear form, engage and attack for 15 seconds, and just go into cat. And then for the remainder of the encounter we'll have a shorter wait on our defensive cooldowns, while also having longer up time on them? I've considered benching myself for this one as well if I don't feel my DPS is up to par, it's a shame it hasn't been addressed by Blizzard.

  20. #2900
    Well, as far as I understood from Mihir's answer (thanks for that by the way ) the issue has been addressed by Blizzard and they did it on purpose. What a shame, of course
    once a drood - always a drood!

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