1. #1781
    Quote Originally Posted by Windry View Post
    Are you sure? I got them to back down in both playthroughs, and I definitely killed Udina for renegade in both playthroughs.
    Hmm, maybe it has to do something with Kaidan rather than the council then. I couldn't shoot Udina the first time around because Kaidan wouldn't trust me and I had to talk him down, after which he shot Udina himself. No paragon/renegade options for me that time around. They eventually back down in both scenarios, I just had to go through a lot more conversation before Kaidan would trust me. Did you have a previous relationship with Kaidan in either playthrough? I noticed that the playthrough where we had a previous romance was also the one where he immediately trusted me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hakto View Post
    Just started my insanity playthrough, the more I think about the ending, the indoctrination theory rings true.
    Just imagine if Bioware publicly said "Oh hey everyone, you know all those decisions you've been making for the past three games? The Reapers were controlling you the whole time." That would go over so well right? People are just trying to rationalize everything because they don't want the endings to seem as bad as they really are.
    Last edited by Notos; 2012-03-15 at 08:49 AM.

  2. #1782
    Quote Originally Posted by Notos View Post
    Hmm, maybe it has to do something with Kaidan rather than the council then. I couldn't shoot Udina the first time around because Kaidan wouldn't trust me and I had to talk him down, after which he shot Udina himself. No paragon/renegade options for me that time around. They eventually back down in both scenarios, I just had to go through a lot more conversation before Kaidan would trust me. Did you have a previous relationship with Kaidan in either playthrough? I noticed that the playthrough where we had a previous romance was also the one where he immediately trusted me.
    Interesting - My first playthrough was Ashley and same council from ME1 but in this playthrough Thane wasn't there, so Kai Leng killed the Salarian Counselor, and Udina use altered videos to frame me for killing the Counselor, but the Asari Counselor listened to my Shepard and went to shut down the elevator. Udina pushed her down, and pulled a gun, and I got the option to shoot him.

    My second play through was with Kaidan and different council from ME1 Neither side lowered our weapons. Kaidan was still uncertain. Udina went to open the door, but the Asari counselor said no, and pushed him away from it. He pushed her to the ground, and I got to shoot him.

    So ya, I guess their reaction was a little different, but I guess we'd have to do:
    Kaidan + Original Council
    Kaidan + New Council
    Ashley + Original
    Ashley + New
    to figure it out.... ugh that's a lot of playthroughs.

  3. #1783
    Quote Originally Posted by Notos View Post
    Just imagine if Bioware publicly said "Oh hey everyone, you know all those decisions you've been making for the past three games? The Reapers were controlling you the whole time." That would go over so well right? People are just trying to rationalize everything because they don't want the endings to seem as bad as they really are.
    The 'indoctrination theory' is just after you get shot by the red beam on earth just before reaching the teleporter, everything that happens is you being indoctrinated by the reaper that shot you

    I don't agree with it, but if they put that twist on the actual game I would be amused. But then I didn't really have a huge problem with the green ending anyway.

  4. #1784
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    Quote Originally Posted by Notos View Post
    Hmm, maybe it has to do something with Kaidan rather than the council then. I couldn't shoot Udina the first time around because Kaidan wouldn't trust me and I had to talk him down, after which he shot Udina himself. No paragon/renegade options for me that time around. They eventually back down in both scenarios, I just had to go through a lot more conversation before Kaidan would trust me. Did you have a previous relationship with Kaidan in either playthrough? I noticed that the playthrough where we had a previous romance was also the one where he immediately trusted me.
    I actually had a playthrough where my Shepard romanced Kaidan and stayed true to him and I could convince him that I was right about Udina immediately. I also got the Renegade option to shoot Udina, but when I didn't do it then Kaidan pulled the trigger. I also saved the original Council and Thane was alive to kick Kai Leng's ass. So I guess it has something to do with your current relationship status.

  5. #1785
    Quote Originally Posted by Aveline View Post
    I actually had a playthrough where my Shepard romanced Kaidan and stayed true to him and I could convince him that I was right about Udina immediately. I also got the Renegade option to shoot Udina, but when I didn't do it then Kaidan pulled the trigger. I also saved the original Council and Thane was alive to kick Kai Leng's ass. So I guess it has something to do with your current relationship status.
    Actually, I never passed the opportunity on the check. It might've turned out exactly the same if I just didn't hit the renegade trigger.

  6. #1786
    Quote Originally Posted by Aveline View Post
    I actually had a playthrough where my Shepard romanced Kaidan and stayed true to him and I could convince him that I was right about Udina immediately. I also got the Renegade option to shoot Udina, but when I didn't do it then Kaidan pulled the trigger. I also saved the original Council and Thane was alive to kick Kai Leng's ass. So I guess it has something to do with your current relationship status.
    Oh that's right! I forgot all about Thane! I didn't have him alive in my first playthrough, so Udina had his doctored footage of the Salarian councilor being killed to show to everyone. All the same, in the playthrough where I saved the council, the Asari councilor said something along the lines of "We were wrong to not trust you last time, so we'll trust you this time." I guess that's probably the only line that's directly influenced by whether you saved the council (aside from them remembering you in earlier convos). Everything else can probably be attributed to your situation with Kaidan and whether Thane is present or not.

    edit: This has been bugging me for a long while now: is it possible to both save Mordin and cure the genophage?
    Last edited by Notos; 2012-03-15 at 09:26 AM.

  7. #1787
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windry View Post
    Actually, I never passed the opportunity on the check. It might've turned out exactly the same if I just didn't hit the renegade trigger.
    Since I was playing as a Paragon I thought there might be a Paragon option popping up next. You know, talking over a cup of coffee or something. But nope. If you get the Renegade option to shoot Udina and don't take it, at least Kaidan pulls the trigger. I personally have no idea about Ashley since I didn't port my playthrough where she survived yet.

  8. #1788
    Quote Originally Posted by obdigore View Post
    I don't agree with it, but if they put that twist on the actual game I would be amused. But then I didn't really have a huge problem with the green ending anyway.
    Yeah, Synthesis is a great idea! It's the future, true cyborgs - a fusion of both organics and technology, comprising the strengths of both, the weaknesses of neither.

    Seriously, we spent the entire first game opposing this idea.

  9. #1789
    Quote Originally Posted by Lightfist View Post
    Yeah, Synthesis is a great idea! It's the future, true cyborgs - a fusion of both organics and technology, comprising the strengths of both, the weaknesses of neither.

    Seriously, we spent the entire first game opposing this idea.
    I liked it. I really don't care if you have a different opinion. Welcome to the internet, people have opinions and feel the need to share them.

    Of course, that whole thing was about indoctrination. If you really want to argue about reaper indoctrination we can, but I don't care enough.
    Last edited by obdigore; 2012-03-15 at 09:31 AM.

  10. #1790
    Quote Originally Posted by Notos View Post
    edit: This has been bugging me for a long while now: is it possible to both save Mordin and cure the genophage?
    No, it's not.

    ---------- Post added 2012-03-15 at 10:34 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Aveline View Post
    Since I was playing as a Paragon I thought there might be a Paragon option popping up next. You know, talking over a cup of coffee or something. But nope. If you get the Renegade option to shoot Udina and don't take it, at least Kaidan pulls the trigger. I personally have no idea about Ashley since I didn't port my playthrough where she survived yet.
    Ashley survived Virmire in my playthrough, and pretty much the exact same thing happened to me.

    ---------- Post added 2012-03-15 at 10:35 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightfist View Post
    -snip-
    Spoiler tags for the people haven't finished the game yet, please.
    Last edited by Nerraw; 2012-03-15 at 09:35 AM.

  11. #1791
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    Quote Originally Posted by Notos View Post
    edit: This has been bugging me for a long while now: is it possible to both save Mordin and cure the genophage?
    From what I've read it actually is possible to do both. But you have to do some choices on Mass Effect 2 in order for this to happen. I think. I'm not entirely sure though...

    EDIT: [I]"During the second Tuchanka mission in Mass Effect 3, you can choose whether to cure the genophage, or sabotage it.

    If you cure it, Mordin dies in an explosion. If you sabotage it, you are forced to kill Mordin to do so. However, you can save Mordin if both Wrex isn't alive and you destroyed Maleon's data in ME2. Additionally, if you don't cure the genophage and Wrex is alive, you are forced to kill him when he finds out that the cure was fake."[/I]
    Last edited by mmoc66a46237a3; 2012-03-15 at 09:42 AM.

  12. #1792
    Quote Originally Posted by Windry View Post
    8) Mordin - I don't know what would happen if Mordin died. He shows up trying to cure the genophage. Wrex or Wreave, cure or sabotage the genophage, as far as I know, Mordin dies in ME3 regardless.
    Same thing if Mordin dies, just a different salarian, one who was part of Mordin's and Maelon's STG group back in the day.

    Quote Originally Posted by Windry View Post
    If your reputation is above 2 bars, you can get a peace options. Allow Legion/Geth to upload the data. Then use your reputation check to call for peace/threaten to Quarians. The Quarians will break off their attack, and you will get both fleets to join you. Legion/Geth still die uploading the data
    My Rep is well above two bars and i never got the option to do peace, just let the code get uploaded/ stop the upload. I read somewhere that you have to do certain actions in the previous game (ME2) and this game to unlock it.

    EDIT:
    Quote Originally Posted by Raphtheone View Post
    "In order to achieve peace between the two races, you need to get 5 to 7 points. These points are based on your ME2 and ME3 decisions. If you have 4 points or below, you cannot achieve peace.

    -Rewrote the Heretics (0 points)
    -Destroyed the Heretics (+2 points)
    -Tali is NOT exiled (+2 points)
    -Tali has been exiled/You did not do the Loyalty Mission (0 points)
    -Resolved Legion/Tali conflict either using the Paragon or Renegade options (+1 point)
    -N7 Mission: Save the Admiral on Rannoch in ME3 (+1 point)
    -N7 Mission: Destroy Geth Squadron on Rannoch in ME3 (+1 point)
    -Completed Legion's Mission in ME3 (or no peace)

    You will need a HIGH reputation for the peace talks. If you rewrote the heretics in ME2 BUT achieve peace, you will gain more war assets, but there'll be less quarians."
    here it is.
    Last edited by crazysmacker; 2012-03-15 at 09:51 AM. Reason: info

  13. #1793
    Quote Originally Posted by Nerraw View Post
    No, it's not.
    That is effing lame. That last scene at the top of the tower almost brought me to tears. Manly tears, but still tears.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aveline View Post
    EDIT: [I]"During the second Tuchanka mission in Mass Effect 3, you can choose whether to cure the genophage, or sabotage it.

    If you cure it, Mordin dies in an explosion. If you sabotage it, you are forced to kill Mordin to do so. However, you can save Mordin if both Wrex isn't alive and you destroyed Maleon's data in ME2. Additionally, if you don't cure the genophage and Wrex is alive, you are forced to kill him when he finds out that the cure was fake."[/I]
    That sucks, I greatly prefer Wrex to the guy that takes his place if he's dead. It doubly sucks because you can't have both Eve and Mordin alive in the same playthrough.

    New question: what colors has everyone gotten during the vision that you share with Liara on the last level? The first time I went through, it was blue. When I replayed the level on the same playthrough (but with some more war assets) it turned red. Does anyone know if the vision has any significance?
    Last edited by Notos; 2012-03-15 at 09:53 AM.

  14. #1794
    Quote Originally Posted by obdigore View Post
    I liked it. I really don't care if you have a different opinion. Welcome to the internet, people have opinions and feel the need to share them.

    Of course, that whole thing was about indoctrination. If you really want to argue about reaper indoctrination we can, but I don't care enough.
    Okay, so it was bad because the Reapers were telling him that it was a good idea.

    Which is different from the Synthesis ending...how?

  15. #1795
    Quote Originally Posted by Lightfist View Post
    Okay, so it was bad because the Reapers were telling him that it was a good idea.

    Which is different from the Synthesis ending...how?
    because you aren't trying to control the galaxy with an iron fist, but instead merge the biotics and the synthetics so they are no longer at war. An attempt to make a galaxy at peace for everyone is hugely different than trying to stop a rogue agent that wants to kill all advanced biological life

  16. #1796

    Quote Originally Posted by obdigore View Post
    because you aren't trying to control the galaxy with an iron fist, but instead merge the biotics and the synthetics so they are no longer at war. An attempt to make a galaxy at peace for everyone is hugely different than trying to stop a rogue agent that wants to kill all advanced biological life
    Isn’t merging organics with synthetics the makeup of a reaper? To me that choice just looks like making another reaper, smells of trickery.

  17. #1797

    Mass Effect 3 - Decisions and Outcomes (spoiler post)

    Updated
    [SIZE=5]Current Questions:[/SIZE]
    1) What happens if Garrus or Tali in the Omega 4 relay in ME 2? Who shows up on the moon of Palaven? Who shows up on the flotilla? Do you get a token turian to talk to/ join your party?

    2) What happens if you killed the Rachni in ME 1? Do the Rachni mobs not show up in the game? Is there still the mission to investigate with the Grunt's Krogan group before curing the genophage?

    3) What happens if your Fem Shepard romanced Jacob, does he still marry Brynn?

    4) What happens if Miranda did not survive Omega 4, do you still try to save her sister on the Cerberus base?

    5) What happens if your Fem Shepard romanced Thane? Does he still die? Is the dialogue really different during the death scene?

    6) What happens if you gave Cerberus the reaper? How is the dialogue different?

    [SIZE=5]Current Answers[/SIZE]
    [B][SIZE=4]Mass Effect 1[/SIZE][/B]
    1) Council - If you saved the old council, the counselors are: Tevos, Valern, Sparatus. If you sacrificed them, the counselors will be: Irissa, Esheel, and Quentiss. However, it really makes no difference in the game. Their dialogue is exactly the same, except a 1 line insert. They even look the same. Also, Udina will be a counselor regardless. If Anderson was your counselor, he will resign to rejoin the military shortly after ME2. This is noted in his codex.
    *(Thanks to AnthonyUK for pointing this out)

    2) Rachni - I don't know what happens if you killed the Rachni (q2). Saving the Rachni, you will run into Rachni mobs (1 giant eye, 2 small blue lazers shooting a bazooka like shot with 3 sacks of spiderlings) who have been taken over by the reapers. You will also get a mission before curing the genophage to investigate the Rachni. On that mission you reunite with Grunt if he survived Omega 4. With him, you fight through the reaper/rachni cave and find that the queen was captured and enslaved by the reapers. You can free her, and she will join your fleet (worth about 100 -> 200 fleet str), or you can leave her to die. Grunt will survive regardless of your choice, but his company will take a few (10ish) more losses.

    3) Wrex - If Wrex is alive, he becomes the leader of the Krogans and clan Urgnot. If Wrex died in ME1, you deal with his half brother Wreave. Both will demand that you cure the genophage before helping the Turians. Wrex will promise to try to make peace and not seek out revenge after the war. Wreave promises to wage war against the Turians and Salarians after the Reapers are gone.

    4) Ashley vs Kaiden - Obviously, one of them survives and joins your team. Some of their dialogue is shared word for word, mainly on missions. All their dialogue when you talk to them between missions is different. Kaiden really seemed dull and underwritten in this game, but I didn't particularly like Ashley's conversations either.

    5) Zhu's hope - A colony in ME1 that was being controlled by plant like creatures. Depending on how many colonist, there will be dialogue that references Zhu's hope as a massacre, or as a triumph. You can also scan the Planet Feros, Theseus system, Attican Beta to gain the war asset "Zhu's Hope Colonists" for 30 str
    *(Thanks to Flextt for the info)

    [B][SIZE=4]Mass Effect 2[/SIZE][/B]
    1) Miranda - If Miranda survives, you will get an email from her to meet at the citadel. You can choose to re-ignite the romance. This blocks you from starting other romances. She will then talk to you again later at the spectre terminal near the HU embassy. Finally, you'll get an email to meet her in the apartments for a quickie. If you meet her in the apartments, she will not die on to Kai Leng or her father at the Cerberus base, and you get +25 fleet str.

    2) Jack - If Jack survives, you will meet her on the side mission at the school for gifted biotics. She teaches there now. After the mission you can meet her at the club on the Citadel. There, you can re-ignite your romance, which blocks others. Whether or not you romance her, she joins her students fighting for the fleet, +25 str. If she died on Omega 4, she simply doesn't show up at the school. The main male student dies as you're running to the shuttle trying to save Rodriguz.

    3) Garrus - I don't know what would happen if Garrus died in ME2. If he survives, he shows up when you start working with the Turians, and joins your party. He has lots of great dialogue, and jokes when you find him between missions (trades jokes with Joker, Epeens with James Vega, makes out with Tali).

    4) Tali - I don't know what would happen if Tali died in ME2. If she survives, she shows up when you start working with the Quarian, and joins your party. You can lose her if the Quarians are wiped out.

    5) Grunt - If Grunt survived the Omega 4 relay, you meet him when investigating the Rachni. He's now in clan Urgnot, and leads his own commando unit. He will survive the mission regardless, and gives +25 fleet str.

    6) Legion - If Legion died on Omega 4, you interact with another unit, simply named "Geth." They look exactly the same, and even have the same hole blown out of their chest piece. The dialogue is rather different however, and you miss him calling you "Shepard Commander." Both will try to upload the reaper tech to their fleet. Legion and Geth will die, regardless. Edit: Apparently, you can only have peace with Geth and Quarians in ME3 if Legion is alive.

    7) Thane - If Thane survives, he will show up in the Hospital promising to watch over Ashley or Kaiden. You get to have a nice chat with him. He also foils the assassination attempt during the Citadel, but is mortally wounded. He also provides a nice death scene in the hospital with his son later on. If Thane did not survive, he doesn't appear in the hospital. Kai Leng will kill the Salarian Counselor during the attack on the Citadel, and Udina will have a video recording to frame you for the murder. It puts some more doubt in Ashley/Kaiden, but you get to kill Udina regardless.

    8) Mordin - He shows up trying to cure the genophage.

    If Wrex is dead, and you destroyed Maelon's data, you can convince Mordin to not go up and fix the sabotage. If Mordin and Maelon died in ME2, you get a token Salarian trying to make the cure.
    *(This is from Aveline's post)

    9) Samara - I don't know what would happen if Samara died in ME2. She shows up on a side quest when you go to check on the Asari school. Apparently, all 3 of her daughters have that disease that kills a person after Asari mind sex. You will save 1 of the daughters. Samara will then either commit suicide (rather than fulfill her duty as a justicar killing her last daughter), or you can convince her there's another way. She'll then join the front lines and +25 to your fleet.

    10) Jacob - Jacob shows up in the N7 side mission Cerberus Scientists. I'd like to know what would happen if your fem shepard romanced him (q3). He's there protecting a group of scientist fleeing Cerberus. He falls in love with the main scientist Brynn. After the mission, you'll be able to talk to him at the hospital. There, you'll find out that they're having a baby, but they'll continue fighting till the reapers are gone. Jacob gives +25 fleet str.

    11) Katsume - Katsume shows up on a Citadel side mission exposing a traitorous ambassador. After the mission, you can convince her to join the fleet. She will go around stealing rare materials for the construction of the Crucible, and give +25 to fleet str.

    12) Zaeed - Zaeed shows up in a side Citadel mission where Cerberus tries to assassinate the Hannar Ambassador, he stops the assassination and joins the fleet for 25 str.

    13) Maelon's data - From what I've seen, if you do not save Maelon's data from Mordin's loyalty mission, Eve will die on Tuchunga when Mordin extracts her DNA. After the cure, there will be a scene where you burn Eve's body that reminds me of the movie Troy.

    If you save Maelon's data, but sabotage the cure, the dialogue is slightly different, but Mordin still dies. Afterwards, the Krogan not knowing the difference, Eve and Wrex/Wreave will stand near a stone table and commend you.

    Also, destroying Maelon's data and having Wrex dead is the only way Mordin can survive Tuchunga, where you convince him not to fix the sabotage.
    *(This is from Aveline's post)

    14) Destroying/Saving the reaper - I only killed the reaper. Someone let me know what happens if you hand it over to Cerberus!

    [B][SIZE=4]Mass Effect 3[/SIZE][/B]
    1) The Genophage: Before embarking on the mission to cure the genophage, the Salarian Diatriss will ask you to sabotage the cure.

    - If you reveal the plans, Mordin will take the elevator up to the top, and fix the problem as the cure is released. The shroud then explodes, killing Mordin. The Salarians will never join your fleet.

    - If you don't reveal the plan, Mordin will detect something is wrong. If you try to stop him from going up, he'll figure it out. You'll then have a brief argument with him about it. To stop the cure, you have to shoot Mordin in the back. He still takes the elevator to the top, but dies before being able to fix the problem. The Salarian join your fleet, but you will lose the bulk of the Krogan later on. After the attack on the Citadel, Wrex will figure it out, and confront you on the Citadel. You will either be forced to shoot Wrex, or watch as Bailey and C-Sec kill them. Later on in a conversation with Garrus he will ask you why Wrex would attack you, and I choose to tell him the truth, to which he responded something like, "Damn, a few years ago, I would've said the price is too high. I guess that's what this war has done to us."

    - Lastly, if Wrex is dead, and you destroyed Maelon's data in ME2, supposedly, you can convince Mordin to not go up to fix the sabotage.
    *(This is from Aveline's post)

    2) The Quarians and Geth:
    After freeing the Geth from the Reaper control, Admiral Gerrel will order the fleet to finish off all the Geth. Legion, or token Geth will then ask you for permission to upload Reaper tech to the Geth.

    - If you refuse to let him upload the tech twice, he will disobey and begin the upload anyways. Tali will then kill Legion/ token Geth. The Quarian fleet will then wipe out all the Geth. (It's a nice cutscene). The Quarians add something around 480 to your fleet.

    - If you allow him to upload the tech, Tali will plead with you not to. If you ignore her, Legion/Token Geth will upload the data. Legion/Geth will sacrifice themselves to do the upload. The Geth fleet will then wipe out all the Quarians (It's a different, and even nicer cutscene). Afterwards, Tali will commit suicide. The Geth will add something around 600 to your fleet.

    There is a peace option. Allow Legion/Geth to upload the data. Then call for peace/threaten to Quarians. The Quarians will break off their attack, and you will get both fleets to join you. Legion/Geth still die uploading the data.

    According to Raphtheone:
    "In order to achieve peace between the two races, you need to get 5 to 7 points. These points are based on your ME2 and ME3 decisions. If you have 4 points or below, you cannot achieve peace.

    -Rewrote the Heretics (0 points)
    -Destroyed the Heretics (+2 points)
    -Tali is NOT exiled (+2 points)
    -Tali has been exiled/You did not do the Loyalty Mission (0 points)
    -Resolved Legion/Tali conflict either using the Paragon or Renegade options (+1 point)
    -N7 Mission: Save the Admiral on Rannoch in ME3 (+1 point)
    -N7 Mission: Destroy Geth Squadron on Rannoch in ME3 (+1 point)
    -Completed Legion's Mission in ME3 (or no peace)

    You will need a HIGH reputation for the peace talks. If you rewrote the heretics in ME2 BUT achieve peace, you will gain more war assets, but there'll be less quarians."
    (and ty to crazysmaker for finding the post)

  18. #1798
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windry View Post
    7) Thane - If Thane survives, he will show up in the Hospital promising to watch over Ashley or Kaiden. You get to have a nice chat with him. He also foils the assassination attempt during the Citadel, but is mortally wounded. He also provides a nice death scene in the hospital with his son later on. If Thane did not survive, he doesn't appear in the hospital. Kai Leng will kill the Salarian Counselor during the attack on the Citadel, and Udina will have a video recording to frame you for the murder. It puts some more doubt in Ashley/Kaiden, but you get to kill Udina regardless.
    You can save Thane under certain circumstances, you need to have saved Captain Kirrahe in ME1 and not talk to Thane in ME3 before the Cerberus attack on the Citadel, Kirrahe will die in his place while saving the counselor and Thane lives, he's still sick and wont join your team but still, nice to save another old team member I guess (not sure if you get him as a war asset).

    As far as I know Legion is the only team member you can never save.
    Last edited by mmocee72ac48eb; 2012-03-15 at 11:56 AM.

  19. #1799
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windry View Post

    2) What happens if you killed the Rachni in ME 1? Do the Rachni mobs not show up in the game? Is there still the mission to investigate with the Grunt's Krogan group before curing the genophage?

    5) What happens if your Fem Shepard romanced Thane? Does he still die? Is the dialogue really different during the death scene?
    I can answer questions 2 and 5, at least to some extent.

    2) If you chose to kill the Rachni queen on ME1 there's a new queen in the hive. This is an artificial Rachni queen built by the Reapers. Appearently unlike the real Rachni queen the artifical one will turn on you eventually if you chose to set her free. So yes, there's still a mission but with a tad different result.

    5) Thane will die even if you romanced him on ME2. When you meet him he will greet you with "Siha" instead of "Commander". If you had a relationship with Kaidan on ME1 and romanced Thane on ME2 he will ask was there something between the two of you. You can also share a bit of an intimate moment with Thane in the lobby where Shepard and Thane kiss if you ask can you go "somewhere more private". After Thane dies Shepard will say something along the lines of "See you on the other side of the Sea", refering that they will still be together after death.

  20. #1800
    I know the answers for thane, tali and jacob but got no idea how to do the spoiler tags :S And also there is a further requirement for Kai Leng in citadel.
    "So, he sent a succubus to seduce you, and lure you down to his side. And yet, first thing you do is to check her ass? Ah, kid, you've got much to learn.."

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