Warlocks + Symbiosis

[Reser]

Warlocks are getting (all 3 specs):

- Rejuvenation


Druids gets from us:

Balance --> Unending Resolve
Feral --> Soul Swap
Guardian --> Life tap (lol?)
Resto --> Demonic Circle: Teleport

To me, it seems we will only be getting Symbiosis from balance druids, everything else seems supbar for them compared to what they can get, resto druids can get Detterance or Icebound Fortitude for exaple, Guardian can get spell reflection etc.

Im not sure if this ability will make it to live, seems op for pvp/arenas.

Toughts? Source: http://www.wowheadnews.com/blog=2025...-to-each-class

[Zinnin]

In my full DS gear it was ticking for about 8k, so not exactly gamebreaking.

I could see Feral wanting Soul Swap for some fights, and I have a feeling the Guardian Life tap gives rage, not mana. And you never know when a resto druid would want your port.

[artem123]

Imo simple fix, dont let it be used in arena / possibley rbg.
this seems great for pve.. kinda

[Deathdealr]

A lock being my main toon if a druid happens to take my Life Tap, Soul Swap, or Demonic Teleport I am going to be pissed. Lol.

[Sume]

A lock being my main toon if a druid happens to take my Life Tap, Soul Swap, or Demonic Teleport I am going to be pissed. Lol.

I don't think it actually steals your move... just copies it.

[ComputerNerd]

A lock being my main toon if a druid happens to take my Life Tap, Soul Swap, or Demonic Teleport I am going to be pissed. Lol.

Nobody is taking anything away.
Symbiosis simply gives them an extra ability normally reserved for the other class, with minor adjustments to its behaviour if applicable.
You still keep yours, as do they theirs but you both simply get extra.

[Archimand]

A lock being my main toon if a druid happens to take my Life Tap, Soul Swap, or Demonic Teleport I am going to be pissed. Lol.

what u mean take my

you dont lose nothing ....

[Raugnaut]

A lock being my main toon if a druid happens to take my Life Tap, Soul Swap, or Demonic Teleport I am going to be pissed. Lol.

It doesnt swap- it grants you an extra ability, and the druid an extra ability, depending on spec.

I can see Rejuvenation being extremely useful for Destro lock healing. As a Resto, My main choice will normally go to a hunter for detterence. Feral, Hunter for Play dead. However, Guardian, depending on how much HP Life Tap takes, and what Life Tap gives us, I may be using it on Warlocks.

Also, 8k? Thats more then my resto druid heals on live.

[Zinnin]

Also, 8k? Thats more then my resto druid heals on live.

It isn't more then your resto druid heals on beta, the heals on beta are pretty nuts.

[Reser]

Ferals can get Shattering blow from wars, or Dispersion from priests, soul swap seems weak against those options.

And yes, LT gives rage, but atm, its 20% life for 30 rage, healers would get mad.

[Count Zero]

I love being a utility bot. If for some reason a drood wants what I can impart, I'll be more than happy to spread some hots around.

[Suikoden]

Resto is getting Demonic Circle eh? Well that will certainly make pvp interesting...

[Zinnin]

Our version of Rejuv has a cooldown, so we can't spam it on the whole raid.

And the resto Demonic Circle: Teleport ports them to our circle.

[xskarma]

Resto is getting Demonic Circle eh? Well that will certainly make pvp interesting...

Just get to use our port if we set one up, so it has it's limitations. You could potantially be better off just camping our portal point. Someone is bound to show up there xD

[Darnassian]

It isn't more then your resto druid heals on beta, the heals on beta are pretty nuts.

So was damage as a level 80 when cata scaling came out with Shattering patch. At level 90 it will be bad to just adequate in dungeon blues while venturing into level 90 heroics

[Zinnin]

So was damage as a level 80 when cata scaling came out with Shattering patch. At level 90 it will be bad to just adequate in dungeon blues while venturing into level 90 heroics

Oh I know, I am not saying the numbers are crazy I was just pointing out that our rejuv isn't stronger then the resto druid one in beta

[wholol]

for a resto druid in pvp , you have no idea how good an escape mechanism is...i can see lock Rdruid being a pair again just for that ...you all look at dmg reduction cds etc.. compare the cds over the port one.. how many times can you avoid rather deadly situations with port compared to deterrence( for example) ? think about it.

Edit: mostly talking about arena here, also think about the sheer mobility gained from teleport and the locks new demonic gate...its pretty insane..

[Gohzerlock]

As long as it doesn't end up balance druid = metamorphosis i'm good

[wholol]

As long as it doesn't end up balance druid = metamorphosis i'm good

chicken + demon = demonchicken? -> chicken on fire ? -> KFC + hot sauce

[Warsfeil]

it will most probably changed and as a warlock i dont want to get Rejuvenation while i am giving 2 defensive cd and soul swap.