Quite curious on your evidence, since evidence for F2P/B2P is utterly destroying. I'm just going to leave this here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns-IIn-DG-c. I gave up trying to convince people who got stuck in their sub fee justification. They are charging a sub fee because they apparantly can, 'cause the players allow them to. It doesn't improve the game, only the pockets of the company.
- Looks like they took him to some bolt hole in the Wounded Coast.
- I wonder if it's near the Injured Cliffs? Or the Limping Hills? Massive-Head-Trauma-Bay? No? Just me? *sigh* Forget I said anything.
"I just wanted them to hand us our award! But they were just talk!, talk!, talk!......" - Wrathion
Are you guys seriously argueing that F2P in this case would be "because F2P is also a decent model to make money"? :/
Be realistic. Sub based mmos don't go F2P just because they think they will make more money. They go F2P when they're falling apart.
Games that start F2P with a Cash Shop AND games that, eventually, go from B2P to F2P are different creatures.
MMOs ditching subscription are not in one of those mentioned different groups.
Quite, but when Funcom releases little bits of info themselves surely that's not NDA?
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Which won't happen. The planned Dark Millenium is now to be a RPG instead.
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A few still plays it yes, but those are mostly die-hard veterans. I'm fairly sure that DaoC and EQ1 are more succesful than Warhammer Online though.
Amazing sig, done by mighty Lokann
1. They might also be games/companies looking for a more beneficial model as their shareholders want more money. The F2P model has proven to be highly competitive and is shaping the market.
2. Let's not forget these are the words of a developer answering a controversial question, not a financial officer of the company. He might well be out of his depth or answering a diplomatic "maybe" on something he knows nothing about not to seem out of the loop or stupid.
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- Looks like they took him to some bolt hole in the Wounded Coast.
- I wonder if it's near the Injured Cliffs? Or the Limping Hills? Massive-Head-Trauma-Bay? No? Just me? *sigh* Forget I said anything.
thas terrible
"going" f2p" is for many people the same like "dying", and an EA/bioware official even hinting at going f2p cant mean anything good.
seriously, if this game goes f2p I will not play it again, I do not know any f2p model that could possibly please me. I really feel bad, I just play yesterday again after a month break and was having quite fun. this sucks.
Three words will prove that whole sentence incorrect...STAR TREK ONLINE.
So you may not but many many others do.
Those players and I am one of them spend hundreds of dollars in the store for the ships and costumes and other goodies it has.I myself have spent around $250.00 buying C-Points in the 2 years I have played for their store purchases.And the first year of that was paying a sub as well before they went free to play.
The lockboxes they have in game to get rare ships like the Ferengi Marauder ship or Cardassian Galor class ship people have spent upwards of $300.00 just to get the keys to open the boxes just for a small chance at those ships.
That game is making a killing in it's store as Star Trek fans have to have their favorite ship types as well as uniforms and costumes from the movies and shows.
In that game the majority are paying out the nose for those items being they are die hard Trek fans and want those items.
Problem is if it was just Bioware making the game and EA was out of the picture I have a feeling we would be seeing a completely different game and one that was more finished and polished than what was released.
Bioware was always great with their games but once EA stepped in Bioware was gutted from the company they were to what we have now under EA.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns-IIn-DG-c
@Vewen:
Told ya no one would bother =)
- Looks like they took him to some bolt hole in the Wounded Coast.
- I wonder if it's near the Injured Cliffs? Or the Limping Hills? Massive-Head-Trauma-Bay? No? Just me? *sigh* Forget I said anything.
Actually when a game goes free to play, lot of people gonna try out right away ( Lotr for example ), it can help them
Time is on our side
Brutal Gladiator Enhancement Shaman *rawr*
I would be quite happy if swtor went f2p. It would get me back at least, and I know a lot of people who won't play the game unless it actually goes f2p.
I don't think it'll be anytime soon, but it would be a good thing for both the MMO market (sub fee MMO's are a thing of the past, IMO)
and SWTOR in particular if it went free to play with vanity/convenience cash shop items.
The fact that they're at least considering it is a good sign.
Monk, I need a monk!!!
Oh hey cool, I'd probably start playing again if it went F2P. Sounds good to me!
Don't get me wrong, I played GW for a long time and enjoyed it immensely, but honestly, very little of what they released was actual content. Sure, they did a good job of continually balancing stuff, and occasionally they'd add a few new green weapons into the game, new b-day minipets, and such, but in terms of actual CONTENT, not a ton was added outside of actual expansion packs. Sure, they did start adding more post-EotN, but even that was mainly to hold player interest and keep GW in their minds until GW2 hits...