add ons in gw2

[Deleted]

no addons no. addons ruin games. shit become too easy then. 1 reason of many why i choose gw2

[bstap04]

So those of you saying that addons make games too easy, you all cleared heroic sinestra, ragnaros, and madness when each was current? And you all also achieved gladiator in pvp?

[Malthurius]

So those of you saying that addons make games too easy, you all cleared heroic sinestra, ragnaros, and madness when each was current? And you all also achieved gladiator in pvp?

Well... for PvP is kind of moot because everyone in the higher tiers uses addons as well.

As for PvE, are you saying that Heroic Sinestra, Ragnaros, and Madness of Deathwing wouldn't be harder if you didn't have DBM?

[DrakeWurrum]

Serious question: Since PvE in GW2 is going to largely, by design, not be competitive...
Would having modding capability specifically in PvE truly hurt anything?
INB4 not needing addons for non-competitive stuff - it's already absolute fact that addons aren't needed even for competitive environments, they're just useful and nice to have

[Dodrin]

So those of you saying that addons make games too easy, you all cleared heroic sinestra, ragnaros, and madness when each was current? And you all also achieved gladiator in pvp?

I love your logic...

And it's been said, SOME addons (very few) make the gameplay experience so simplified, that yes, content as a whole is easier. Imagine if all of those timers telling you when to use your cooldowns/when to move and where suddenly were gone. Yes, it'd be harder.

[iCandy]

So those of you saying that addons make games too easy, you all cleared heroic sinestra, ragnaros, and madness when each was current? And you all also achieved gladiator in pvp?

What exactly were you trying to prove? Because if anything you're agreeing that addons make a game easier.

lol, didn't think that out fully did ya?

And all of those bosses COULD be defeated without addons, it would just be hard and take a lot longer. Did you not play Vanilla?

But now, WoW has addons for addons and players are so used to being lazy and having their hand held that they think it's impossible to defeat a boss without addons.

....addons.

[DrakeWurrum]

Imagine if all of those timers telling you when to use your cooldowns/when to move and where suddenly were gone. Yes, it'd be harder.

They don't tell you where to move, or what buttons to push, actually.

[Dodrin]

They don't tell you where to move, or what buttons to push, actually.

I recall DBM telling you when you were in the wrong area, and by knowing when x mob will take increased damage, or when it iwll do it's major hurttheraidalot phase, you know when to use CDs.

[iCandy]

I recall DBM telling you when you were in the wrong area, and by knowing when x mob will take increased damage, or when it iwll do it's major hurttheraidalot phase, you know when to use CDs.

I also remember an addon, can't recall the name because I wasn't a scrub, that literally told you what ability to use next. It used some theorycrafting algorithm and you set it up for your class. It gave you the proper rotation, well, as proper as an addon could get.

And you're right. DBM tells you you're in the wrong area, that's basically the same thing as saying "stand over here instead"

[Dodrin]

I also remember an addon, can't recall the name because I wasn't a scrub, that literally told you what ability to use next. It used some theorycrafting algorithm and you set it up for your class. It gave you the proper rotation, well, as proper as an addon could get.

And you're right. DBM tells you you're in the wrong area, that's basically the same thing as saying "stand over here instead"

Mages had an addon that tracked the best time to use combustion.

Silly shit, brah.

But still, I wouldn't mind UI customization in GW2

[iCandy]

Mages had an addon that tracked the best time to use combustion.

Silly shit, brah.

LOL. Yeah.

There's no use arguing with them anymore. People are too accustomed to having their hand held that they think it doesn't change how they play.

Yet, we all know that they would stumble over themselves if they tried to do a heroic 5man without them.

[VibrantViolet]

I'm glad there won't be addons.

[bstap04]

I love your logic...

And it's been said, SOME addons (very few) make the gameplay experience so simplified, that yes, content as a whole is easier. Imagine if all of those timers telling you when to use your cooldowns/when to move and where suddenly were gone. Yes, it'd be harder.

Not what Im saying at all...Im saying if it made games so much easier then the difficult feats should be achieved by far FAR more people.

Well... for PvP is kind of moot because everyone in the higher tiers uses addons as well.

As for PvE, are you saying that Heroic Sinestra, Ragnaros, and Madness of Deathwing wouldn't be harder if you didn't have DBM?

No, Im saying that if addons made it so much more easier, more than 2% of guilds would have completed all of those feats when current content.
And its not moot for pvp because again, if it made the game so much easier, EVERYBODY would be a gladiator.

What exactly were you trying to prove? Because if anything you're agreeing that addons make a game easier.

lol, didn't think that out fully did ya?

And all of those bosses COULD be defeated without addons, it would just be hard and take a lot longer. Did you not play Vanilla?

But now, WoW has addons for addons and players are so used to being lazy and having their hand held that they think it's impossible to defeat a boss without addons.

....addons.

uhh, what? lol
How does that prove addons make games easier? If it did make the game so much easier, more people would have accomplished all of those things I listed when they were relevant.

[Dodrin]

How does that prove addons make games easier? If it did make the game so much easier, more people would have accomplished all of those things I listed when they were relevant.

I would assume more people are completing that "hard" content because of DBM, but we have no Pre-DBM content to compare it to. So your "argument" is moot.

[Malthurius]

No, Im saying that if addons made it so much more easier, more than 2% of guilds would have completed all of those feats when current content.

Yes, and I bet even less than 2% would complete it if addons didn't exist.

And its not moot for pvp because again, if it made the game so much easier, EVERYBODY would be a gladiator.

You do know that PvP means Player vs Player. If everyone is using addons, everyone has the same advantage. IF everyone wasn't using addons, everyone would still be on a level field. If a player with no addons went up against someone with addons that actually helped him (an addon that called out CDs the opponent uses for example) the player with addons would have a distinct advantage.

[bstap04]

I would assume more people are completing that "hard" content because of DBM, but we have no Pre-DBM content to compare it to. So your "argument" is moot.

Just saying it is moot doesnt make it moot.
How can a game be too easy if only 2% of guilds complete all of those raid bosses, and even less players complete all of those raid bosses AND achieved gladiator?

Yea...addons make games too easy... /sarcasm

[rhinomatic]

I would assume more people are completing that "hard" content because of DBM, but we have no Pre-DBM content to compare it to. So your "argument" is moot.

Pretty much this. Far less people would have completed that stuff without addons.

I did 7/8 heroic Firelands one night with no addons and it was HARD. I can't tell you how many mistakes I made because I didn't have DBM holding my hand. Success of the raid was pretty much due to the other 9 with mods being able to compensate for my mistakes.

If everyone had to play like that I doubt even half of them would have completed the content.

[Deleted]

AND achieved gladiator?

How many videos , have u seen the healers manually left* clicking an enemy or friend and then cast a spell ?
How many times have u seen , ppl hitting the dk and automatically cc-silence the healer , without even targeting him ?
How many times , by knowing the CDs that have been used by the enemy and knowing how long they need to recharge , ur team can spot which enemy is vanurable ?

[Clash the DK]

The UI needs to be customizable with Bartender4-like features. It's 2012. This is mandatory these days.

I could not currently play WoW without Bartender4. I tried and couldn't get into SWTOR because of the lack of a customizable UI. GW2 does not want to make the same huge mistake as SWTOR.

[rhandric]

The UI needs to be customizable with Bartender4-like features. It's 2012. This is mandatory these days.

I could not currently play WoW without Bartender4. I tried and couldn't get into SWTOR because of the lack of a customizable UI. GW2 does not want to make the same huge mistake as SWTOR.

Considering there are only 10 skills (on your action bars), it's not as big a deal as for games like WoW where you need 50 skills on your bars but only use maybe 5-10 in any given fight. But yes, UI customization should happen, which pretty much everyone agrees with; it's any other form of addon that has no fit in GW2