non-Americans take on the US elections

[Ophelos]

I'm from Canada, i didn't vote on the poll since i don't support either Mitt or Obama. I personal think the US should get rid of US gov't officals an start over with just the constitution.

[Dakia]

Actually most of the internet such as reddit, 4chan, mmochamp and any other forum (unless specifically made for republicans) dislikes republican ideology. Maybe it's because people who spend so much time on internet also spend time reading up news, articles etc on the internet and are more informed than the typical 'just check email and facebook' crowd.

My personal opinion is that it is more due to the larger user base of the internet being the youth of the world, which are traditionally liberal in their views.

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My opinion is that I can't even comprehend how the republicans are such a supported party with their moronic values.

I guess i'll be quoted for generalising all republicans, but really if you vote for them it doesn't matter, you still choose to put them in power.

See, that really is the thing. It is your opinion. Just like there are people in the US who think that the values largely held in Europe are moronic and make no sense.

I people like to try, but you really can't apply the European mindset to the US. It simply doesn't work. The country is more right than even your right wing parties.

[Catta]

ok tough guy. discuss what you want, thats fine and dandy, i'm not one of those dicks that says, because you dont live here in american doesnt mean you cant discuss about it (although i do get tired of the bashing). i said, plain and simply, that talking about it, is not in the least bit neutral. being neutral means, you dont give a good god damn, and not post any of these, "well he's better than him", "our economy is like this, so you should totally do things they way we too", "we dont use that so you shoudnt either" thoughts on it what so ever.

yeah i read about other countries, but i could give a care about your policies, your lifesytles, your economy, etc., so i dont post didly about it. why? because its your country, not mine. thats called being neutral.

anyways, discuss away, you so called "neutrals".

Neutral does not mean you are indifferent nor apathetic

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My personal opinion is that it is more due to the larger user base of the internet being the youth of the world, which are traditionally liberal in their views.

In Europe you have socialists on one side and liberals together with the conservatives on the other side. Our distribution between socialists and liberals are much more even. Just because you choose to lump anyone who isnt conservative into the liberal category does not make it so - maybe that is the reason we dislike republican ideology

[Dakia]

In Europe you have socialists on one side and liberals together with the conservatives on the other side. Our distribution between socialists and liberals are much more even. Just because you choose to lump anyone who isnt conservative into the liberal category does not make it so - maybe that is the reason we dislike republican ideology

I highly doubt that my own personal classification is the reason for the hate. Generally speaking, the youth is a demographic that is traditionally left in their political views. That isn't bashing, that is pretty much an established fact

[Catta]

I highly doubt that my own personal classification is the reason for the hate. Generally speaking, the youth is a demographic that is traditionally left in their political views. That isn't bashing, that is pretty much an established fact

I disagree - emphatically.
I went to law school for a brief time - young people all over. Liberals and libertarians - one socialist in my class only (i know this because of a get-to-know game we played)
However - much of my old high school class was socialist leaning - i took some extra courses, here it was evenly distributed.
This is anecdotal evidence but i think its fairly accurate as my facebook feed is filled up with people from both sides.
Again - i do believe that its just conservatism that lacks the youth vote and since the US is composed of conservatives and not conservatives - guess where the votes end up. That does not mean the youth is traditoinally left.

[Horrid Crow]

What I think about US elections is no different than what I think about American culture as a whole; it's one big circus.

That said, I think republicans are generally scary people who are stuck in the middle ages with their insane ideologies.
If Mitt Romney gets elected, your country will be back to bad foreign bonds. Something Obama at least did right.

[IIamaKing]

Actually, the post you quoted hits it right on the head. If Karl Rove, Rumsfeld, Cheney, akin, Ryan etc had their way...that is exactly what the republican party wants, to convert USA into a taliban state with Christianity instead of islam as the religion that governs.

You need to listen to less MSM shit rots your brain.

[Fateq]

My personal opinion is that it is more due to the larger user base of the internet being the youth of the world, which are traditionally liberal in their views.

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See, that really is the thing. It is your opinion. Just like there are people in the US who think that the values largely held in Europe are moronic and make no sense.

I people like to try, but you really can't apply the European mindset to the US. It simply doesn't work. The country is more right than even your right wing parties.

I don't pay attention to this right or left shit, I don't even know what I am, but I will hazard a guess that if republicans are right wing then I would sure hope I'm left wing.

I don't understand your first part, yes it's my opinon hence why I said it was and every single discussion about your political siding is your own opinion, and based on the beliefs that republicans have in regards to religion and such things in my opinion (hope that's clear enough for you) they're a bunch of idiots.

Don't like to read bashing of your favourite party? Don't read a thread asking for peoples own thoughts.

[wowisme]

To the OP - any particular reason you didn't include a "neither" option?

[Deleted]

Democrats and republicans are just playing good cop/bad cop. In the end they are all working for the same people.

Just my 2c.

[nevermore]

I am personally very disillusioned with America. I grew up in a time when America was the land of dreams. I used to think America was a great country that put man on moon, helped eliminate the nazi threat and while they made bad decisions like vietnam etc, overall I admired the USA.

But having seen what the US has become now kinda makes me sad. It seems that education, discovery and science are rotting away while extremism, religious beliefs and politics are thriving.

As a non-American if I were to give my opinion, I would lose all faith and hope in America if Mitt Romney was elected. I know it does not matter to the American folks what us non-Americans think but I would like to see who the non-Americans support in the US election and why.

Thank you for writing this, this is exactly how I've been feeling about the US for a while now.

Honestly, everything Mitt Romney and the GOP stands for is exactly the opposite of what I think/believe.
If their proposed economic plan goes into action it will destroy the country, and will be ridiculously unfair too... tax the poor some more and give the rich even more tax breaks? are you f--ing insane? it's been proven that trickle-down economics does not work, over and over again.
They're also going against the basic social security that is integral to any properly functioning society.

I'm not even going to discuss their social policies and their hypocritical, religion-ridden views on contemporary social issues. It's full of hate, misogyny, homophobia, racism and a profound lack of knowledge.
How anyone can vote for these people is just beyond me.

You can hate Obama as much as you want but at least he's not a batsh-t crazy religious fanatic.

Given the effect that the United States has on the foreign policy of other countries, I'd say it's pretty damned fair for -anyone- in the world to be concerned over U.S presidential elections.

Also, this. Anything that goes on in the US directly affects the rest of the world. It's natural that we're concerned.

I'm from England btw.

[Catta]

To the OP - any particular reason you didn't include a "neither" option?

Because its irrelevant in American politics...? Every vote for a third party candidate is a vote for the guy you least agree with because the guy you agree with the most loses a 2 potential votes

[Rakeer]

298 for Obama. 12 for Mittensworth. any red flags going off yet?

[Santti]

From the veeeeery little I have been following the US elections, Obama appears to be the better choice between the two.

Also, the US elections are complicated as hell.



I just can't wrap my simple head around it. :S

[Deleted]

I disagree - emphatically.
I went to law school for a brief time - young people all over. Liberals and libertarians - one socialist in my class only (i know this because of a get-to-know game we played)
However - much of my old high school class was socialist leaning - i took some extra courses, here it was evenly distributed.
This is anecdotal evidence but i think its fairly accurate as my facebook feed is filled up with people from both sides.
Again - i do believe that its just conservatism that lacks the youth vote and since the US is composed of conservatives and not conservatives - guess where the votes end up. That does not mean the youth is traditoinally left.

I would say it is more the progressive/conservative divide that separates ages. Young people tend to want to change and improve the system, for both idealistic and selfish motives (get a chance to remove the old people and get power themselves), whereas old people are more conservative in the idealistic sense (preserve old values) and the selfish sense (keep power and status). This correlates with left/right, but there are exceptions, like Germany's Left Party, which I support for the lack of alternatives acceptable to me, but know that especially the east german party core is best described as socialist conservatives, and has authoritarian tendencies.

[Wikiy]

From the veeeeery little I have been following the US elections, Obama appears to be the better choice between the two.

Also, the US elections are complicated as hell.

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I just can't wrap my simple head around it. :S

And Americans think the constitution shouldn't be rewritten? That isn't just representative democracy, that's like triple representative democracy. It finally makes sense why: 1) America is no longer the dream land (lol) and 2) How someone as bat-shit crazy as Romney could become a candidate (from all the confusion and headaches).

[Verain]

Because its irrelevant in American politics...? Every vote for a third party candidate is a vote for the guy you least agree with because the guy you agree with the most loses a 2 potential votes

Well, a vote for a third party candidate actually says to the people involved "if you were more like this, you'd have had my vote". Votes for Nader strongly communicated this to the Democrats, for instance. It's the only way you can meaningfully threaten them without being an American split between Rs and Ds. It lets them know you are an undecided, but not apathetic, voter.

Voter apathy is good to document too of course- if an election offers lame candidates and I'm undecided, that's important to document too.

[haxartus]

From the veeeeery little I have been following the US elections, Obama appears to be the better choice between the two.

Also, the US elections are complicated as hell.



I just can't wrap my simple head around it. :S

The whole thing simply takes too long. One year is too long.

[Verain]

How someone as bat-shit crazy as Romney could become a candidate (from all the confusion and headaches).

So, curious- how is Romney "bat-shit crazy"? I've heard him described with a lot of adjectives, but never that one. Watcha got?

[haxartus]

Romney is not crazy, he is just incompetent.