It's not useless, but in the means of pushing progression there isn't really any fight where you will be DW unless there is more AoE than single target, which I doubt, and DW weapons will not be at all given to dks.
It's not useless, but in the means of pushing progression there isn't really any fight where you will be DW unless there is more AoE than single target, which I doubt, and DW weapons will not be at all given to dks.
Sorry Frstypwn, but you are indeed wrong.
A. Warriors got nerfed hard right as things went live.
B. DW Frost is doing impressive single target DPS. And.... it blows all other classes away with their AOE.
I would even go so far to say that DW Frost is "the" spec for serious raiders. RE + Masterfrost. The slight increase to single target damage that 2H Frost brings to the table pales in comparison to the versatility of DW Frost.
Also, I think that Soul Reaper is much easier to manage with the Masterfrost rotation.
Last edited by Clash the DK; 2012-10-02 at 03:31 AM.
I'm a bad DK who hasn't been using Soul Reaper for execute because I forget about it. I also have only been tanking and out DPSing half of every dungeon group, so I'm not as concerned about that as I am about the amount of brain dead people running heroics.
The little testing I did get in was at 87 on a few quest mobs. The execute was decent, but most of the time stuff died and I got the haste buff. The nonexistent haste buff that barely does anything. 5 sec is not long enough. I hope they bump it back up to 10 or at least 7-8 sec. When it's so negligible I don't notice it when looking AT my current buffs bar, there is a problem.
GC clarified it was an intended hotfix:
Did anyone else miss it in the hotfix notes?Greg Street @Ghostcrawler
Soul Reaper is 5 sec now. Should be in the hotfix notes. The haste was supposed to be consolation, not the reason to SR.
Edit: Just checked the notes and I'm not seeing any fixes for "Death Knight"
Last edited by NatePsy; 2012-10-02 at 07:16 AM.
I've been using it on the adds that die to cleave damage anyways at Coren Direbrew, outdpsing a ret guildie that has a lot better gear than me. And no, its not because he's bad. For PvE, its fine.
The haste buff is just so you don't feel like you wasted a rune if you screw up and have something die before soul reaper triggers. We are meant to want the damage, so don't expect the haste buff to get buffed.
It's unfortunate that we had to get nerfed without any warning, but that's what happened.
That's exactly what GC said, it's a Consolation for when the mob dies too quickly and you're left annoyed - but even still, I do feel annoyed because that 50% haste isn't going to be used in time. It's just there to make SR look "pretty" though the execute damage is huge, I critted 400k once.
Last edited by NatePsy; 2012-10-02 at 10:04 AM.
I wonder how many other classes' level 87 abilities were "game-breakingly-omg-awesome-want-to-have"...
Not many. DKs got one of the better 87 abilities this expansion. Of course we got dark sim last expansion, so, you know.
Death's Advance is nice. I mean it's 10% stackable runspeed, not exactly a game-changer, but I like having it.
Soul Reaper is pretty amazing... On a Sha of Anger as Blood it was hitting for about 110k and critting for 220k... As frost its hitting for about 80k. Well worth the rune IMO.
Title is misleading. For leveling it's not all that hot, but then again, who cares about leveling? You smash buttons and things die. Your ghoul pet isn't that great for leveling either, by the time it starts attacking, things are already dead.
For raiding? It's a nice boost to execute range we lost when our old execute talent went away.
Unholy still has the 15% base speed, and the 10% from DA stacks with the 8% boot enchant giving frost DKs a base 119% runspeed, which is more than the spec had in Cataclysm, so it's overall a buff. Just, like I said, not exactly a game-changer.
I think someone is talking about Frost and someonelse is talking about UH XD