This is what I'm interested in aswell. I wouldn't be all that surprised if this was just another "Shelling of Mainila" type of incident since Turkey has been pretty much thirsting for Syrian blood for months now.
(For uneducated, shelling of Mainila is an event in which Soviet Russia used artillery on it's own town and blamed it on Finland to gain a Casus Belli)
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Modern gaming apologist: I once tasted diarrhea so shit is fine.
"People who alter or destroy works of art and our cultural heritage for profit or as an excercise of power, are barbarians" - George Lucas 1988
God bless the Syrian arab army , fucking terrorists being flooded into Syria
Yeah, fun facts are that large part of Syrian Rebel army are islamist fundamentalists whom have openly stated they hope to create strict islamist religious state in place of the what could be considered somewhat progressed islamist nation before the civil war, and that big bunch of them are non Syrian that have come to do it.
I bet Syrians are gonna love their newfound freedom after this war ends.
Modern gaming apologist: I once tasted diarrhea so shit is fine.
"People who alter or destroy works of art and our cultural heritage for profit or as an excercise of power, are barbarians" - George Lucas 1988
If this is how the world ends, it's quite a lousy way to go. Talk about going out with a whimper.
But nah, Russia will back down. You usually only hear about how bad things go for the US economically but from all reports I've seen Russia is doing worse, if due to other circumstances.
"n 2011 Russia’s gross domestic product[17] grew by 4.2 percent, the world’s third highest growth rate among leading economies. The government expects it to grow 3.7 percent in 2012. "Following a 4.2 percent growth in 2011, we think the slowdown will lead to GDP growth of about 3.5 percent for the full year," S&P Chief Economist for Europe Jean-Michel Six said in a statement.[18]Russian GDP growth for the first half of 2012 was 4.4%. [19]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Russia
Modern gaming apologist: I once tasted diarrhea so shit is fine.
"People who alter or destroy works of art and our cultural heritage for profit or as an excercise of power, are barbarians" - George Lucas 1988
wait a second.. why did they fire a shell at turkey!?
No. There is absolutely nothing to gain and a massive amount to lose from such an armed conflict. And why does everyone assume that just because Russia and China are both strong enough to stand up to the US in international politics that we're so close? Is it because of that whole communism thing? Because anyone who's looked at the history of that knows how well that went.
Actually, we're doing relatively well at this point in time. And there's a pretty big incentive to keep it that way.
That is exactly what worries me. What a lot of people, especially from across the Atlantic don't seem to know is that the rebels are for the most part fanatics, that want to establish a far stricter islamic regime on Syria. They have up to now executed, and tortured their way through the country, destroying anything they consider anit-islamic. Assad may be a dictator, but he is far more civilised than the rebels. Only bad things can happen for the people of Syria if the rebels come out on top.
The thing is that many western countries and western posters here in MMO-C support these rebels. Then, if the rebels succeed, turn Syria into shithole and then some extremists attack foreigners, the same posters who defended those rebels will yell "Islam is bad hur bur they bite the hand that helped them blahblah..."
Neither Syrian military nor rebels has claimed responsibility for attacks on Turkey. Now the question is, who would you rather believe? Assad, for whom attack on Turkey would be just about the last decision in his political career and possibly life, or rebels, for whom Turkey's and NATO's intervention is in the best interest?
Yeah, that is why I mentioned it. The thing is though, I do not think it is their fault, just the media creating a false image. I know I get a bit nervous when I hear about some theories regarding subjects that I care about although I know of facts that make those theories obsolete. I can't imagine what it must be like to have the news spam you with 'The plight of the freedom-fighting rebels'.
This could finally be the excuse that NATO has been looking for to intervene in Syria. They've been aching for it and would have done so already were it not for Russia and China dropping the idea in the UN.
TURKEY JUST FIRED BACK AT *SYRIAN GOVERNMENT* TARGETS IN SYRIA!
http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/03/world/...html?hpt=hp_c1
I'm kind of happy that someone is finally standing up to the murderous regime of Assad. GO TURKEY
Not really. Syria's Sunnis are not primarily religious fundamentalists, but they'll probably elect a government congruent to the one Libyans elected (a moderate islamist government friendly to the United States) since Gadaffi and Assad are similar in terms of style of governing/time governing (the Assad dynasty has been there for about as long as Gadaffi was.)
Also, Turkish forces used radar to strike back the area from which the mortars were launched. It was confirmed to by a government area and government troops were hit.