Turn post-processing off, reduce fog in the world

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Sample pictures:
Render Sampling: Native, Post-Processing: High and None



Also Supersampling adds shiny things to world, but eats performance.
Render Sampling: Supersampling, Post-Processing: None and High

[bbr]

The fog and distance blur is kind of nice actually.
I can see why some would want to turn it off - but having it on adds some level or realism.

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At the risk of being an unbearable pedant...

The "fog" is still the same in all the pictures, you haven't reduced that. The de-saturation and blue-tint is the same in all pictures - this is fog. Makes sense that it is not a post-process, it can be done in the vertex/pixel shaders when the geometry is rendered.

What does disappear when you disable post-processing look to include:
- Depth-of-Field. This is what makes the things in the distance blurrier.
- Bloom. This is what makes the bright areas of the image glow even brighter but softer, and creep into neighbouring darker areas (e.g. see how the pale-blue-ness of the sky bleeds into the trunks of the palm-trees in the background on the far-right.)

Those things are typical full-screen post-process effects.

Also, despite looking long and hard with my "trained-eye", I don't see any evidence of super-sampling in your second set of shots compared to the first. What I do see different is ground-clutter objects on/off. Super-sampling doesn't "add shiny things to the world", it's a method of anti-aliasing - it removes unsightly jagged edges and pixel crawling/flickering etc.

Nice images though.

[maddbomber83]

Sweet FX injector set up right will let you keep all your post processing, edit it a bit how you like, and do away with the 'fog', which is really just desaturated color.

[Tackhisis]

So you need third-party hack to do such basic things as full-screen post-processing, bloom & co.?

[bbr]

How do you manage to make full screen screenshots though?
Is there some button that disabled the interface? Because i'm yet to find it.

[Deleted]

How do you manage to make full screen screenshots though?
Is there some button that disabled the interface? Because i'm yet to find it.

ctrl+shift+h hides UI and /sleep hides toon in most of places.

Alvarez Thanks for explaining. I really do not understand any of these settings. I have tried to read wiki but since it is English I can not get what these settings _really_ do. I see that some make edges smoother, others change lightning... but when I try to get idea what is best combination of settings I just get more confused. ._.

I took more pictures. Now I'm starting to see what post-processing does for light, but I really can not see any real the difference between native and supersample. What should I look?
Supersample and post-processing high:

Supersample and post-processing none:


Native and post-processing high:



Subsample and post-processing high:

Subsample and post-processing none:

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Alvarez Thanks for explaining. I really do not understand any of these settings. I have tried to read wiki but since it is English I can not get what these settings _really_ do. I see that some make edges smoother, others change lightning... but when I try to get idea what is best combination of settings I just get more confused. ._.

I took more pictures. Now I'm starting to see what post-processing does for light, but I really can not see any real the difference between native and supersample. What should I look?

You're welcome

It looks to me like your "native" shots still contain some sort of Anti-aliasing. What GFX card do you have? It's possible that you have hardware MSAA or something happening.

Based on your screenshots - don't bother with super-sampling as you are not getting much quality difference but you will be paying a hefty price in terms of wasted GPU performance. (This doesn't apply to everyone!!! Your mileage may vary!!!!)

Avoid "sub-sampling". This just blurs the whole screen.

Good comparison/explanation of super-sampling here :-

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...on,2868-2.html

---------- Post added 2012-10-20 at 02:20 PM ----------

So you need third-party hack to do such basic things as full-screen post-processing, bloom & co.?

No. Those effects are already in the game.

3rd party "injectors" are very clever, but I would personally tend to stick with the games-own implementations of post-processing if they exist.

[Deleted]

It looks to me like your "native" shots still contain some sort of Anti-aliasing. What GFX card do you have? It's possible that you have hardware MSAA or something happening.

I have AMD Radeon HD 7970, but I have changed the “Anti-Aliasing” option to “Use application settings”, since GW2 dev has told AMD/ATI users to do that: https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/foru...-Issue-AMD-ATI

Thanks for the link, helped a bit to understand the difference of these things. ^_^

[dezzick]

I have AMD Radeon HD 7970, but I have changed the “Anti-Aliasing” option to “Use application settings”, since GW2 dev has told AMD/ATI users to do that: https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/foru...-Issue-AMD-ATI

Thanks for the link, helped a bit to understand the difference of these things. ^_^

Whats your fps like with the hd 7970?

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Whats your fps like with the hd 7970?

Around 40 to 50 at LA center, 90+ at the zones. Haven't checked it on large fights, but I haven't noticed any problems and I get nausea really easily if fps is low.

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