Gaza rocket fire resumes

[Reeve]

Thats not enough troops at all, I would want 5 times those numbers.

OK, I'll trust your experience then.

[Mayhem]

I've heard 16,000, I've heard 30,000 and now 45,000. Seems like 45,000 would be a bit excessive to subdue an area only 365 km^2, where the vast majority of people are unarmed civilians, but what do I know? I'm just an unarmed civilian myself.

i´ve read 16.000 in the morning, now in the news it was 45.000

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i´ve read 16.000 in the morning, now in the news it was 45.000

It is necessary to get the right patriotic delirium in the minds of the people to the upcoming Israel election, take that unpatriotic peace loving leftist... Benjamin Netanyahu is a skilled politician (and ruthless)

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Unconfirmed reports at work tell me that an F16 was shot down, HAMAS are now shelling the area it crashed to stop the IDF reaching it. Any conformation on this or are they talking bullshit as usual?

[Reeve]

Unconfirmed reports at work tell me that an F16 was shot down, HAMAS are now shelling the area it crashed to stop the IDF reaching it. Any conformation on this or are they talking bullshit as usual?

Google News isn't carrying it from any sources yet. Could just be the press needing to get confirmation before printing.

[N-7]

But thanks to it, you're all forgetting Syria keeps murdering its own people. The leader of Hamas sits in Syria. Sometimes people try too hard to find the circumference of a circle and simply forget how to do 1+1

If you think that Assad is bad just wait when (or if) the rebels takeover. You will probably have Hamas V2 against you.

[Masqerader]

Very true. Let's play "who's occupying, destroying, starving, degrading and massacring who"

Winner: Israel. They're not victims.

Neither are the people of Palestine.. and as long as Hamas wants to use civilians as humans shields... so be it..

[Zhangfei]

Neither are the people of Palestine.. and as long as Hamas wants to use civilians as humans shields... so be it..

They are the definition of victimhood.

[Mercadi]

If you think that Assad is bad just wait when (or if) the rebels takeover. You will probably have Hamas V2 against you.

There will probably be multiple Hamases fighting each other for power in the country wrecked by war at the end. If this war will even end.

[Palmatum]

i´ve read 16.000 in the morning, now in the news it was 45.000

BBC are saying upto 75,000 now.

Well if that's true then it certainly seems like something's about to go down soon. I doubt anything will happen with the Egyptian PM there, but you never know. I shouldn't think Israel will care too much for a person to supports Hamas and openly speaks out against Israeli 'aggression' as if it's unjustified.

[Kalyyn]

Kalyyn is known for these sort of posts, take it with a pinch of salt.

This is true.

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So let me put this straight. Netanyahu ran to his underground bunker because Hamas fired 3 Fasjr-5 missiles ? wow, just imagine what he will do when Iran is going to invade Israel with it's 6 million soldiers and when Hezbollah is going to pour rain with 100.000 intercontinental ballistic missiles.

Poor jews. They will become the biggest parking lot.

[Palmatum]

So let me put this straight. Netanyahu ran to his underground bunker because Hamas fired 3 Fasjr-5 missiles ? wow, just imagine what he will do when Iran is going to invade Israel with it's 6 million soldiers and when Hezbollah is going to pour rain with 100.000 intercontinental ballistic missiles.

Poor jews. They will become the biggest parking lot.

100,000 ICBM's. Lol.

[Seranthor]

I've heard 16,000, I've heard 30,000 and now 45,000. Seems like 45,000 would be a bit excessive to subdue an area only 365 km^2, where the vast majority of people are unarmed civilians, but what do I know? I'm just an unarmed civilian myself.

45k seems quite low for an all out ground campaign as well, seems that I read somewhere (dont quote me on this FFS) that it would take about 200k to reasonably take Gaza, unless of course you bombed the hell out if it first.

[tjanson]

So let me put this straight. Netanyahu ran to his underground bunker because Hamas fired 3 Fasjr-5 missiles ? wow, just imagine what he will do when Iran is going to invade Israel with it's 6 million soldiers and when Hezbollah is going to pour rain with 100.000 intercontinental ballistic missiles.

Poor jews. They will become the biggest parking lot.

Yep, nobody's ever said that before. Empty Arab threats are so incredibly empty.

[Seranthor]

Right. Except Palestine didn't have their land conquered, they had their land given away, which means it was stolen. Plus the UN doesn't allow for wars of conquest anymore, which is why Israel has been constantly attacked by the organisation.

Seems you have forgotten your history, and are too intractably against remembering it.

[someotherguy]

Almost daily rockets hit Israel, here's a list for 2012: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...n_Israel,_2012

You can argue that Arabs that moved out of Israel so that Egypt+others wipe it off the map and have one more country there, are somehow victimized, but what if Indian reservations kept shooting at land around them? It's a silly argument, there are bad terrorists in there, and so Israelis have a right to defend themselves.



here's how terrorists fight, and how idf fights:

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Almost daily rockets hit Israel, here's a list for 2012: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...n_Israel,_2012

You can argue that Arabs that moved out of Israel so that Egypt+others wipe it off the map and have one more country there, are somehow victimized, but what if Indian reservations kept shooting at land around them? It's a silly argument, there are bad terrorists in there, and so Israelis have a right to defend themselves.



here's how terrorists fight, and how idf fights:

Is that a string operated mortar?

[Reeve]

45k seems quite low for an all out ground campaign as well, seems that I read somewhere (dont quote me on this FFS) that it would take about 200k to reasonably take Gaza, unless of course you bombed the hell out if it first.

Seems incredible to me that you'd need 547 soldiers per square kilometer to take control of an area that's primarily civilian population, but if Rich says you need that many, I'll go along, since he's a soldier and I'm not.

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Seems incredible to me that you'd need 547 soldiers per square kilometer to take control of an area that's primarily civilian population, but if Rich says you need that many, I'll go along, since he's a soldier and I'm not.

Civilians panic, loot, go crazy or help the enemy. You will have 2 sides to fight, Hamas and your own people. Think you could control a place like new york with 500 soldiers per square kilometer with enemy forces shelling you? fuck, I said they would need 5 times the amount of troops, make that 20.