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I have read a lot about it, actually. None of the reasons stated that I read were that they were going to be legally punished for their report.Originally Posted by Wells
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2012-11-23, 08:20 AM #201Banned
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2012-11-23, 08:23 AM #202Pandaren Monk
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She is in rehab for alcohol and drug addiction. She said this false accusation was the reason. Originally Posted by undercovergnome
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2012-11-23, 08:24 AM #203Void Lord
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That's not the point. The fear of not being taken seriously is a big deal and a very common concern. Surely you can see how that ties into it right? You tell women that false reports are a crime, which is correct. They worry their claims won't be taken seriously. They worry that if they're not taken seriously the authorities will think they're lying. Originally Posted by Bergtau
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2012-11-23, 08:25 AM #204Pandaren Monk
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You know they say karma is a bitch. I hope, for her sake, she doesn't find out the hard way...
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2012-11-23, 08:26 AM #205Legendary!
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So an 11 year old didn't tell the truth under oath ?
Surprise ?
There's a reason that the word of younger children is discounted in court by default, and almost always requires significant supporting evidence. Its easy for them to be pressured into saying what they think one of the adults involved wants to hear, especially in a divorced situation where she's especially fearful of upsetting someone in authority.
Let's get to the real problem... why was her father convicted if all it took to get him released was reversing the testimony of a child that should have little legal weight in the first place ?
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2012-11-23, 08:27 AM #206Over 9000!
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as i said before, thats because no one seriously advocates punishment. except on internet forums. Originally Posted by Bergtau
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2012-11-23, 08:27 AM #207Banned
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And I don't see that worry connecting into the the worry of being legally punished. I have seen no evidence of it. Originally Posted by Wells
If nobody currently advocates punishment as you say, then you have no basis on which to claim that it would become a significant factor. Originally Posted by darenyon
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2012-11-23, 08:30 AM #208Void Lord
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I don't see what remains to be proven. Rape victims fear not being taken seriously. Consequences for not being taken seriously make that worse. Such as the afor mentioned "rape false accusators" crap.
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2012-11-23, 08:30 AM #209Over 9000!
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people want to *make* it a worry. Originally Posted by Bergtau
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2012-11-23, 08:30 AM #210Brewmaster
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Isn't it great? A woman can decide after she's had sex whether or not it's rape. Was it a one night stand and she wants to get back at the guy? File a false rape charge! Have a few drinks and take someone home that you regret/are embarrassed about? File a false rape charge!! Boyfriend dump you? Guess what she can do! Originally Posted by Laize
Rape is the only crime where the man is considered 'guilty until proven innocent', such a life-runing experience when a vindictive woman decides to pull the r-card. Even more amazing, if they do get caught in their lie, they get off scott free! What other crime can you falsely report and not get in any trouble over?
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2012-11-23, 08:31 AM #211Over 9000!
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gotta watch out for those slutty 11 yr olds... Originally Posted by Lovecrafts
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2012-11-23, 08:32 AM #212Warchief
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While I hate getting involved in one of Laize's gender threads which really just happen to be outward expressions of something he's dealing with internally, I felt this was important enough to discuss. I have a lot of sympathy for victims of sexual assault; my mother was molested as a child and she carried baggage from it well into her 40s. With that said, it's up to the victim to pursue justice for themselves. The possibility that someone won't speak up for themselves out of ignorance is not an excuse for refusing to punish a false accusation that lead to 9 unlawful years in prison. Originally Posted by Auloria
I mean what's the flip side of doing nothing? It's saying "if you make a false accusation, you can get away with it". To me that's just as bad as someone not speaking up because they don't understand the law. In all honesty, I'm not concerned about "making examples" or "preventing this or that". What the kid did was wrong, and it deserves SOME sort of punishment. There is no justice if a person can be put away under false charges and no one pays for it.
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2012-11-23, 08:32 AM #213Banned
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Who? The only people that I have seen other people wanting to be worried are those who would falsely accuse another of rape. I have not seen anybody saying they want rape victims to be worried about being convicted of falsely accusing somebody of rape. Originally Posted by darenyon
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2012-11-23, 08:32 AM #214Titan
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I see where you're going with this... Originally Posted by Nivis
Why am I back here, I don't even play these games anymore
The problem with the internet is parallel to its greatest achievement: it has given the little man an outlet where he can be heard. Most of the time however, the little man is a little man because he is not worth hearing.
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2012-11-23, 08:33 AM #215Pandaren Monk
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Sorry, but the Why would she lie, have no place in a justice system if it's mean't to be credible! A persons freedom and possibly life is at risk, at bare minimum they should have done a medical examination of this girl. Originally Posted by Laize
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2012-11-23, 08:34 AM #216Banned
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Mmyes, I do believe he is going to track her down... Originally Posted by vizzle
That was kinda his point. Originally Posted by Banzhe
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2012-11-23, 08:34 AM #217Warchief
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I agree. Sexual harasment and rape usually go unreported in eastern countries. Originally Posted by Wells
Im also biased from being annoyed by the other topic where male posters sided with the jerk that sued his wife for being ugly. So nyah.
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2012-11-23, 08:36 AM #218Banned
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I think that's just hilarious that people think that they have the right to know everybody about their significant other's past. Originally Posted by Alixie
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2012-11-23, 08:37 AM #219Over 9000!
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and as we already discussed in this thread, rape evidence is often difficult to obtain, much less it being a matter of whos word to trust more. Originally Posted by Bergtau
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2012-11-23, 08:38 AM #220Banned
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Which has absolutely no bearing on what we are currently discussing. Originally Posted by darenyon
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