View Poll Results: Do you support Marijuana legalization? (if so how much)

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  • Legalized for everyone and children with parental consent

    62 4.49%
  • Everyone 18+

    612 44.35%
  • Everyone 21+

    466 33.77%
  • Medical use Only

    109 7.90%
  • Against marijuana PERIOD.

    113 8.19%
  • Don't know.

    18 1.30%
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  1. #741
    Quote Originally Posted by Lolercaust View Post
    Cigarettes have mild psychoactive effects, but they are not intoxicating like the effects of marijuana.



    Nonsense. You can have a drink of alcohol and experience no intoxication. You can drink slowly over the course of an evening. There are a handful of options that allow you to drink alcohol and not experience any negative or intoxicating effects.
    The same cannot be said for marijuana.
    Yes it can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notorious98 View Post
    Personally, I think all drugs should be legal. It's a person's choice what they do to their own body. As long as it doesn't affect anyone else's opportunity to life, liberty, and the pursuit of property, I'm all for letting it happen. It's none of my business what someone chooses to do with their time. I would never use cocaine or heroin, but it's not my job to tell you what you can't do as long as it isn't affecting me. Keep it in your home and be responsible about your usage. Violent crime rates would likely drop and we could free up a shit load of prison space by setting these drug "offenders" free. It would also allow police officers to focus on REAL crime.
    I actually agree with this. The deaths associated with the more hard drugs would dramatically decrease due to higher purification (I think that's the right word) because of regulation and crime would decrease substantially, and like the poster I quoted pointed out, there would be less of a burden on society because of the fewer prisoners and police officers could focus on catching real criminals.

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    People are so naive and ignorant. They'll go out on a Friday night and get totally smashed and make terrible decisions possibly endangering the lives of others, and then they can wake up the next day and spew their bullshit about how they think weed is horrible. While you're drinking alcohol and poisoning yourself, i'll be sitting at home eating my weed mac n' cheese while laughing my ass off to Scooby Doo and Friends reruns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notorious98 View Post
    They did try to get rid of alcohol and the crime rate skyrocketed to the point that they created an amendment to the Constitution that completely negated the previous Prohibition amendment.
    The crime rate might have skyrocketed because alcohol was previously legal, I don't think Prohibition is a good example to make in this case.

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    18+ = Cigarettes, no immediate side effects
    21+ = Alcohol, gets you drunk, makes it unsafe to do certain things.
    IMO I would say 21+ for weed too. I know it isn't as bad as alcohol but still...

    I am for it, tax it, make it 21+. Not like alcohol is hard for under aged to get, so weed wont be a problem either.

  6. #746
    Here is what should happen.

    They hold a vote for all of Americer:

    If you vote YES for the legalization, you get a BLUE CARD. Blue card signifies you voted affirmative for its legalization, but you forfeit YOUR SELF ability to be allowed to use it.

    If you vote NO for the legalization, you get an ORANGE CARD. Orange card signifies you voted in the negative for the legalization, but you are allowed the ability to use it. If you hold an orange card, you are given another green card that lasts 7 days that allows you to legally use and have the substance on you. You may only renew the card if you have proof that you have done at least 2 hours of charity work in the previous week (at which point you may appeal for a renewal).

    What does this do?

    It incentives people to vote in the negative for the law, proving they will sacrifice their right of use to allow others to do so (altruism). If people vote no, it allows them to still utilize the substance but forces them to do community service in return for the right.

    All those this is a perfect fix, there are also many flaws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hisholyness View Post
    Here is what should happen.

    They hold a vote for all of Americer:

    If you vote YES for the legalization, you get a BLUE CARD. Blue card signifies you voted affirmative for its legalization, but you forfeit YOUR SELF right to be allowed to use it.

    If you vote NO for the legalization, you get an ORANGE CARD. Orange card signifies you voted in the negative for the legalization, but you still hold the right to be allowed to use it. If you hold an orange card, you are given another green card that lasts 7 days that allows you to legally use and have the substance on you. You may only renew the card if you have proof that you have done at least 2 hours of charity work in the previous week (at which point you may appeal for a renewal).

    What does this do?

    It incentives people to vote in the negative for the law, proving they will sacrifice their right of use to allow others to do so (altruism). If people vote no, it allows them to still utilize the substance but forces them to do community service in return for the right.

    All those this is a perfect fix, there are also many flaws.
    I would think that if everyone voted "No" that the legislation would not pass and it would be illegal for everyone. I would think it would be the other way around, if you vote "Yes" you get to smoke, if you vote "No" you don't.

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  8. #748
    No you see the purpose is to make people sacrifice their ability to do it for others.

    So basically all the selfish people who want it legalized will vote no, so it will never be legalized!

  9. #749
    Quote Originally Posted by Decagon View Post
    The crime rate might have skyrocketed because alcohol was previously legal, I don't think Prohibition is a good example to make in this case.
    Marijuana was also previously legal...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bergtau View Post
    Marijuana was also previously legal...
    Wait, what? When? Link?

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  11. #751
    Quote Originally Posted by Decagon View Post
    Wait, what? When? Link?
    The entire time before it was explicitly outlawed.

  12. #752
    Quote Originally Posted by Decagon View Post
    Wait, what? When? Link?
    Basically any point before Harry Anslinger began his crusade on pot. (So before the 1930s)

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    I think weed should be legal for people of the age of 21 or older. I look at it the same as alcohol: it can make you behave differently, so give it the same restriction. The idea is you SHOULD be responsible enough by then to not drive or anything while influenced.

    The way I see it is, people are going to do it anyway, no matter what you do about it. So since it's mostly not harmful (smoking comes to mind as an exception), just legalize it so people stop getting arrested for it. It's a real waste of money to jail so many people over it, and a real waste of time when those police could be going after harder drugs instead of some kid with a baggie in his pants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bergtau View Post
    The entire time before it was explicitly outlawed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Chry View Post
    Basically any point before Harry Anslinger began his crusade on pot. (So before the 1930s)
    Oh, I didn't know that. I guess Prohibition is a valid example, sorry!

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  15. #755
    Quote Originally Posted by Decagon View Post
    Oh, I didn't know that. I guess Prohibition is a valid example, sorry!
    It's OK, you live in northern Utah so it's not your fault. Isn't it great here?

  16. #756
    Quote Originally Posted by Decagon View Post
    The crime rate might have skyrocketed because alcohol was previously legal, I don't think Prohibition is a good example to make in this case.
    Marijuana was also previously legal. The same can be said for cocaine and heroin, both of which were used and sold as medicine. The difference is that the amount of people using (or abusing) them was dramatically smaller in comparison to alcohol. Now that many schedule 1 drugs are becoming more widely used, you're seeing the same type of effect on the crime rate.

    Edit : Sorry, I didn't see the many responses to this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bergtau View Post
    It's OK, you live in northern Utah so it's not your fault. Isn't it great here?
    Oh yes, so great, that I didn't feel the need to put "Unfortunately" in front of my location. Oh wait.

    Quote Originally Posted by notorious98 View Post
    Marijuana was also previously legal. The same can be said for cocaine and heroin, both of which were used and sold as medicine. The difference is that the amount of people using (or abusing) them was dramatically smaller in comparison to alcohol. Now that many schedule 1 drugs are becoming more widely used, you're seeing the same type of effect on the crime rate.
    Yeah, I know this now, others corrected me in this, I was unaware that Marijuana and some of the other drugs were previously legal. Sorry for trying to invalidate the Prohibition example.

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  18. #758
    Quote Originally Posted by Decagon View Post
    Yeah, I know this now, others corrected me in this, I was unaware that Marijuana and some of the other drugs were previously legal. Sorry for trying to invalidate the Prohibition example.
    It's no big deal. I've seen and read numerous programs and articles related to drugs and their history. Fun fact. The crusade to make cocaine illegal was based largely on the false propaganda that it caused black men to rape white women.

  19. #759
    Quote Originally Posted by Decagon View Post
    Oh yes, so great, that I didn't feel the need to put "Unfortunately" in front of my location. Oh wait.
    Well that's what makes it so great!

    I live in the Salt Lake Valley area, fucking crazy people man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notorious98 View Post
    It's no big deal. I've seen and read numerous programs and articles related to drugs and their history. Fun fact. The crusade to make cocaine illegal was based largely on the false propaganda that it caused black men to rape white women.
    Well, if you advertise something enough and lie about something enough, people will begin to believe it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bergtau View Post
    Well that's what makes it so great!

    I live in the Salt Lake Valley area, fucking crazy people man.
    Ah, I live in county seat of Cache Valley. It's pretty crazy how...extremist and opposite northern Utah is compared to the rest of the U.S. and the world, it can be quite interesting to witness though, when you're not being kicked out of stores for being a socialist.

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