Pakistan has nukes and you better bet the US regrets it because now we have to be nice to them. How do you think bin Laden hiding in their country would have went down if they didn't have nukes. We would have removed their incompetent government. This is why we don't want Iran to get nukes. Iran isnt the most honest country and not one we would want to be forced to cooperate with.
And if you honestly think Iran could hold a flame to the US then your are delusional.
Iraq had a modern military and that lasted 24 hours. We were there for so long because of insurgency and monitor the restructuring of the Iraqi military and government. Afghanistan is still a thing because we are being nice and don't to minimize civilian casualties.
If we were to go to war with Iran we would bomb them back to the stone age in 48 hours. The only thing left to do would be to mop up ground resistance, which would be crippled by that point.
You don't become a world superpower by not knowing how to conduct a war. The US pulls its punches.
That's very short sighted of you. When talking about nations you shouldnt be considering your lifespan.
Your kids and their kids will probably live in the very same nation.
So yes, now there's nothing no one can do. But that doesn't mean it's staying like this forever. There isn't the need to an actual invasion of the USA territories, cause as I'm sure you know, geopolitical battles on a high scale are fought on paper. Threats basically.
I hope the kind of mentality you have isn't represented politically.
I don't think you have a clear idea of what Iran is. It isn't by any mean a poor nation. Do you think they'll stand there and watch you use their airspace? Do you think they arent learning from what happened in the area?
You do know that anti aircraft missile system that replaces the s300 russia didnt sell them is due to be completed in 2013?
There is one thing that the USA army have to face all the time. And that's morale and public opinion in the USA.
Without that there is no war.
Think people will still support a war you don't want in a place you don't want to go to protect someone else's business, when airplanes start to drop? Think your government will be happy losing precious planes and pilots?
Morale is always to be considered.
And sorry mate by yours is running kinda low after the past few debacles.
I wish i could find that article in which it states how many times both Russian and American personnel almost triggered the fail-deadly system. I remember one being an American civilian plane being hailed by a Russian military station but since they were using a military frequency they got no answer.
but they didnt end up in war or invade. and ussr would have posed an actual threat, where even supposing iran could get a drone into our airspace they still wouldnt pose a threat.
and while US claims that they werent in iranian airspace might be dubious, they are no more suspect than iran's claims that they were. the number of people willing to take a claim from IRAN of all places at face value is a crystal clear indicator of bias
the united states employs a wide variety of weapon systems based on the current mission set. the united states didnt get its hand caught, i dont know where thats coming from. the last time they shot at one of our drones, it was in international water. if you had any clue about how this technology really works and how strict the politics behind it are, youd realize the chance of our drone being in their air space is slim to none. so if they attack any of them, or captured one, its definitely an act of war.
the simple fact is, there is nothing wrong with our presence in the gulf. would you rather we not be there so iran is free to do what they please in the region? what would be the benefit if the united states stopped policing the world? who else is going to step in? you kidding me? theres no country in the world that could/would step up to the plate to take over that large of a responsibility.
I don't blame Iran for wanting nuclear weapons, even as a deterrence. However, I don't blame Iran's neighbors or anyone else for wanting them to not have nuclear weapons. Theocracies can be hard to predict and are generally not as stable as republics or democracies. Meanwhile the most realistic case isn't that Iran would use nuclear weapons aggressively, but that they would 'lose' bombs or enriched material and it would turn up inside groups seen as terrorist organizations by many places, which would then detonate the dirty bombs inside their territory.
Also, proliferation of nuclear weapons is bad, mmmkay.
You know in most of these thread eventually the nuclear issue comes up, which it has here already, and I keep wondering:
How the hell the only country who has ever used the fucking bomb and still has thousands of them gets to be the nuclear bomb police?!
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