Homosexuality exists in over 400 species. Homophobia exists in only one.
Allow homosexuals to get legally married. I see no valid argument against it.
Homosexuality exists in over 400 species. Homophobia exists in only one.
Allow homosexuals to get legally married. I see no valid argument against it.
“You have died of dysentery” – Oregon Trail
There are economic perks of being married as husband & wife.
If the supreme court rule in favor of gay marriages, will the states be able to sidestep it and ignore offering the perks?
It is to my understanding that those perks are federal law and at worst from my PoV, individual states will be able to sidestep the labeling, ceremony whatever but still be enforced to offer the perks to same sex marriages?
But soon after Mr Xi secured a third term, Apple released a new version of the feature in China, limiting its scope. Now Chinese users of iPhones and other Apple devices are restricted to a 10-minute window when receiving files from people who are not listed as a contact. After 10 minutes, users can only receive files from contacts.
Apple did not explain why the update was first introduced in China, but over the years, the tech giant has been criticised for appeasing Beijing.
This is a sad situation for you, because you really do not understand the science, legal, or the social implications. Only a person who subscribes to one of 3 primary religious beliefs would believe as you do. Science has proven that Homosexuality is in fact very natural and has it's place in evolution. One of the great ape species which is closely related to humans is almost 100% bi-sexual (Bonobo - Pan paniscus) in fact some think they are closer to humans than Chimps.
Sexual behavior in humans is rarely for the purpose of creating children, humans use it as a means of recreation, social status, and signs of affection, only long term couples will plan to have children. Which means most children were not created by planning but do to the other reasons.
I'll use Alexander the Great as an example, he had a male lover his entire life. However, he was under a lot of pressure from the Greek state to produce an heir, the Greeks and the Persians kept introducing him to women of important families. What did he do? he found the least important attractive woman in his empire, she was a woman from Afghanistan and the daughter of one of the local tribe chiefs, named Roxanne. He had a child with her, and then left her in Baghdad as he went to India, with his lover. What does this say? It means Gay men in the time of Alexander figured out how to reproduce and to by-pass your argument, it also means that gay men will take your women away from you if you refuse their rights.
Last edited by Bakis; 2012-12-08 at 05:22 PM.
But soon after Mr Xi secured a third term, Apple released a new version of the feature in China, limiting its scope. Now Chinese users of iPhones and other Apple devices are restricted to a 10-minute window when receiving files from people who are not listed as a contact. After 10 minutes, users can only receive files from contacts.
Apple did not explain why the update was first introduced in China, but over the years, the tech giant has been criticised for appeasing Beijing.
Um Bonobos Apes,
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...06/gay-animals
Among primates, perhaps the most pervasive, and most enthusiastic expression of homosexuality is found amongst bonobos (a species fairly closely related to common chimpanzees). Bonobos live in highly cohesive communities. Social bonds are maintained by a very high level of sexual interaction that include all possible pairings and many different positions. Males and females are bonded together and copulate frequently, sometimes face-to-face. But females frequently rub their genitals together. Males also engage in frequent sexual interactions. Bonobos are perhaps the most bisexual species of vertebrate on the planet. The bonobos do it all. For instance, males engage in highly unusual "xxxxx fencing" that involves rubbing their erect xxxxxx together.
Frequent sexual interaction among bonobos defuse aggression and strengthen social bonds. Perhaps for that reason, bonobos are less aggressive towards each other than common chimpanzees are. Bonobo antics provide a fairly compelling argument against anyone who holds that homosexual behavior is "against nature."
Of course, bonobos are not exclusively homosexual, like some penguins, or humans. In the last post, I argued that exclusive homosexuality in humans can be partly explained in terms of genes on the X-chromosome that increase reproductive success for females who carry them. The penguins remain something of a puzzle.
Bisexuality is much more easily explained because bisexuals can form close bonds with either gender, that could provide practical advantages, as hypothesized for bonobos. Anthropologists describe bisexual conduct as common in many societies around the world and conclude that close same-sex relationships provide advantages in education, trade, and the making of political alliances (2).
America had it's first gay president in the 1800's, back then there was no discrimination against you if you where gay. Only if you flaunted being gay in public. Lets just say, the conservative value is what happens behind closed doors is not my business. However, everyone in Washington DC knew that that President and his Male house partner where a married couple.
The only discrimination they faced was they could not openly admit who and what they were. Even though everyone knew it. Also it was quiet common for homosexuals to get married in the US back then although usually to do it one would pose as a woman/man for the ceremony. and sometimes after the wedding the one who posed opposite gender would publicly express that gender. Most didn't say anything because what they did at home was their business.
I think marriage as a public institution should be abolished. Consenting adults should have full freedom to define and celebrate their relationships with each other as they see fit.
Legalizing gay marriage, as opposed to abolishing marriage as a public institution would just legitimize the government's 'right' to control human relationships by convincing them to 'extend' that right elsewhere. So it's hardly a victory for freedom.
EDIT: Don't get me wrong, I still believe, that until society learns to embrace freedom, public institutions should be extended equally to all people.
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If you have to figure out how to reproduce because it doesn't come naturally, then something is wrong there.
The problem with most people is that they look at humans as being nothing more than animals because they believe in the faulty idea of evolution. There are males and females so to have children and populate. You don't see gays having babies out of there butts do you? With the huge gay movement and push that has grown so rapidly all of the sudden, soon being a 'straight' couple as male and female will be looked at as unnatural. I'm sorry you compare yourself and lower your worth to being nothing more than an animal so to justify your unnatural practice of homosexuality.
But soon after Mr Xi secured a third term, Apple released a new version of the feature in China, limiting its scope. Now Chinese users of iPhones and other Apple devices are restricted to a 10-minute window when receiving files from people who are not listed as a contact. After 10 minutes, users can only receive files from contacts.
Apple did not explain why the update was first introduced in China, but over the years, the tech giant has been criticised for appeasing Beijing.
What exactly is wrong with just calling it marriage? Since that is exactly what they would be if they enjoyed the same rights and privs as a married couple...
Maybe you need to assess why hold this stance at all? The most practical approach here is just going with calling it what it is....marriage. If you want to go the opposite way you need to specify why exactly, what purpose it would serve and whether it would be worth the trouble.
Last edited by Bakis; 2012-12-08 at 05:55 PM.
But soon after Mr Xi secured a third term, Apple released a new version of the feature in China, limiting its scope. Now Chinese users of iPhones and other Apple devices are restricted to a 10-minute window when receiving files from people who are not listed as a contact. After 10 minutes, users can only receive files from contacts.
Apple did not explain why the update was first introduced in China, but over the years, the tech giant has been criticised for appeasing Beijing.
Potentially, yes. They could say that marriage is up to the states to define, as it has been traditionally. This way they can limit their ruling to simply that the Federal government overstepped with DOMA by overriding a legally recognised (by a state) marriage. Doing so does leave it up to the states, but at least even in that case, those states that have legalised marriage equality will be able to enjoy the full rights and benefits on a federal level too.
I doubt it though, the Second Circuit already made a ruling on this as a constitutional issue, would be dumb for the court to back away from that.
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There's nothing faulty about evolution. But I'm willing to bet your understanding of evolution is deeply flawed. And we are animals by definition.
Good thing you went easy on the absurd hyperboles there.With the huge gay movement and push that has grown so rapidly all of the sudden, soon being a 'straight' couple as male and female will be looked at as unnatural.
As Jim Jefferies put it - "if you dont like gay marriage.... dont marry a gay person"