Poll: In a modern day world war who would dominate?

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  1. #201
    Point of this thread is kind of dumb considering that if WW3 were to happen, it wouldn't be continents vs continents. It would be certain countries vs certain countries. There is no way USA, the UK, Japan, South Korea, Australia, etc, etc would be fighting against each other...they'd all be on the same side. So in a more accurate response to the thread, I would say whoever is allied with the USA would win. Considering the USA spends more on its military than the next several countries combined. And considering that the USA has more projection power than almost the entire world combined. Yeah....it really is no contest. Unless of course everyone just nukes each other....then everyone would lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wookeh View Post
    Europe, because hopefully we won't be stupid enough to follow in the footsteps of Americans again. Let Asia and North America throw nukes at eachother while we just sit here mastrubating.
    And then you would die from the world being thrown into a nuclear winter. You still die.

    Kinda on-topic: I was thinking I heard somewhere once that it would only take as few as 10 nukes going off in rapid succession to plunge the world into a nuclear winter. Does that sound right or was I just dreaming it?
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  2. #202
    Quote Originally Posted by Wildtree View Post

    If you cannot get the job done in Iraq within 10 years, how would you get the job done if you stand against most of the World, when you have to take on armies that can actually fight back, highly efficient?
    I'm fairly certain the discussion here is which military force would win in a battle, not which one would have a successful time following that up with an understaffed and poorly understood occupation. At the time of invasion, the Iraqi Army was still one of the largest in the world, yet it took 21 days to capture and defeat all major fighting forces in Iraq. THIS is the time that should be looked at, NOT the 10 years of rebuilding process that has been ongoing.

    A total war involving nations isn't going to be concerned with how effective a targets government functions after they're done, nor are they going to pump billions into improving the local infrastructure. The rebuilding process isn't a "war", and anyone who believes that is perpetuating the same piss-poor political concepts that have caused it to drag out as long as it has, anyways, through this constant cycle of reducing and increasing force projection.

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    why do you suppose that european countries will fight together instead of trying to destroy eachother?

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    people don't really know what the USA are capable of... what they send over to other countries are just like 20% of their entire forces... if that... they have more carrierss than all the other countries combined... probably the best military tech out there, a pretty large number of active duty soldiers, + if need be every man and possibly woman could take part in the war what with how many guns there are in the USA ... + that they won't be alone most likely ... I see no reason why the EU would be against USA for example... but ofc things may change years from now... but as it is right now the only world war could be the allies vs the "terrorists"(aka those countries "liberated" by the USA like, iran, iraq, afghanistan, libia etc.) + possibly russia coz those guys are sketchy... I doubt china would join in but if they would they'd prolly side with the USA... their economies are too dependent on eachother so siding with the enemy of the USA would be a bad move for china...

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    In war, whichever side may call itself the victor, there are no winners, but all are losers.
    - Neville Chamberlain

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    Chamberlain was an idiot. If he hadn't been a complete pussy, Germany might not have been able to steamroller French and British forces. His quest for peace directly led to WW2 spiraling out of handlable size. He was like th British James Buchanon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by det View Post
    Death would dominate....
    Why thank you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Orby View Post
    In war, whichever side may call itself the victor, there are no winners, but all are losers.
    - Neville Chamberlain
    You really want to quote Chamberlain to support an arguement? Could you possibly be any more self sabotaging?

    Quote Originally Posted by mvallas View Post
    If it somehow concludes with the world getting new Fraggle Rock and Stargate series, I'm all for it. ^_^
    Fraggle Rock... that was so long ago I barely remember watching that. I'm all for new ones though.
    And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him.
    Revelation 6:8

  8. #208
    Quote Originally Posted by Masterpd85 View Post
    hmmm modern......

    1.) NA
    2.) Asia (including russia)
    3.) Europe
    4.) Everyone else
    Russia is European, maybe not geographically but the majority of the russian citizens live in the European part of the country, most of the major cities are located there as well.

    Can not, will not, consider Russia as an asian country, it's like imagining the US being a south american country ;P
    The nerve is called the "nerve of awareness". You cant dissect it. Its a current that runs up the center of your spine. I dont know if any of you have sat down, crossed your legs, smoked DMT, and watch what happens... but what happens to me is this big thing goes RRRRRRRRRAAAAAWWW! up my spine and flashes in my brain... well apparently thats whats going to happen if I do this stuff...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackmoves View Post
    Can not, will not, consider Russia as an asian country, it's like imagining the US being a south american country ;P
    Russia's a russian country. Going from there, I've been debating where that puts Belarus, Ukraine and Kazakhstan..

    Quote Originally Posted by Orby View Post
    In war, whichever side may call itself the victor, there are no winners, but all are losers.
    - Neville Chamberlain
    Ah, so that's why. I guess Britain really was like France. Except they didn't have a border with Belgium.
    That's a quote I can definitely agree with. A shame the man isn't that quotable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defengar View Post
    Chamberlain was an idiot. If he hadn't been a complete pussy, Germany might not have been able to steamroller French and British forces. His quest for peace directly led to WW2 spiraling out of handlable size. He was like th British James Buchanon.
    Chamberlain had seen WW1. So had the french and the british. That is why it happened the way it did : They were not willing to fight. The last thing they wanted was another war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guilu View Post
    Russia's a russian country. Going from there, I've been debating where that puts Belarus, Ukraine and Kazakhstan..
    Well yeah I suppose you could say that, but it's certainly not a Asian country, out of their +140 million citizens close to 110 million lives in the European part(if you are going by the official borders of continents), around 40 million lives in the asian part.

    I've always considered them part of Europe, they are an important part of European history etc.
    The nerve is called the "nerve of awareness". You cant dissect it. Its a current that runs up the center of your spine. I dont know if any of you have sat down, crossed your legs, smoked DMT, and watch what happens... but what happens to me is this big thing goes RRRRRRRRRAAAAAWWW! up my spine and flashes in my brain... well apparently thats whats going to happen if I do this stuff...

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    Personally I don't understand the idea that Europe and Asia are two separate continents. I mean, if the Ural Mountains makes them separate continents, wouldn't North America be two continents split by the Appalachian Mountains?

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    You really want to quote Chamberlain to support an arguement? Could you possibly be any more self sabotaging?
    Yeah don't you know how argument by quotation works? The more arbitrarily awesome the guy the more correct you are if you quote them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalyyn View Post
    Personally I don't understand the idea that Europe and Asia are two separate continents. I mean, if the Ural Mountains makes them separate continents, wouldn't North America be two continents split by the Appalachian Mountains?
    You're not suggesting we're anything like these asian barbarians are you ?!

    One word : Eurocentrism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalyyn View Post
    Personally I don't understand the idea that Europe and Asia are two separate continents. I mean, if the Ural Mountains makes them separate continents, wouldn't North America be two continents split by the Appalachian Mountains?
    Its a cultural and political distinction. I mean what constitutes a Continent is fairly arbitrary as is.

  15. #215
    Turritopsis nutricula. Also - cockroaches. War is not the answer - it's the question.

  16. #216
    If Call of Duty has teach'ed us anything the person/group who would dominate is some unknown person who hacks the system and control's everything.

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    Depends who has the most protective nuclear fallout shelters.

  18. #218
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    Quote Originally Posted by Desparatus View Post
    Depends who has the most protective nuclear fallout shelters.
    That would be Switzerland. Plus, they'd be neutral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarc View Post
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    No two democracies has ever gone to war with eachother and so will it remain.
    Quite early on the thread, but. United Kingdom has waged war against a democracy. Back in.. '41, December 6th. Canada, New Zealand, Aussies and South Africans following. Fighting was quite limited, but there was a carrier air strike and escorts. Also worth noting that it was not joint Allied declaration of war, as United States did, in fact, congratulate Finns for retaking Karelia before UK declared war. (Sure, later on they cut diplomatic relations, but it wasn't until Ryti-Rippentrop)


    Anyways. Conventional warfarel.. I don't know. Asia or Europe could prevail in Eurasia (not solemly though, I doubdt. Too long supply lines for China-France for one faction to dominate), USA would dominate in both Americas. I doubdt that any faction would be able to mount succesful naval assault. Not until many, many years of infighting at least. At which point their starting navy/air force would be either vanquished or obsolete.


    Better to just not wage wars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guilu View Post
    That would be Switzerland. Plus, they'd be neutral.
    I thought i read somewhere that the Russians never stopped building shelters and are still building them today all over Russia (though mainly in and around Moscow). http://rt.com/news/prime-time/moscow...ers-outskirts/ as stated in 2010.

    Sucks to be European though... there's like no shelters here... anywhere. There are very few located underneath hospitals and churches but most have been either "forgotten" or destroyed. And those that we do have are only for the "elite".
    Last edited by mmocf470da16f3; 2012-12-31 at 03:42 AM.

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