LMAO no you're not, you THINK you are entitled to anything and everything to go your way, but your'e not, you are playing THIER game THEY make the decisions, you eaither adapt or leave. You dont make any decisions to be called ''Boss'' and im baffled that you actually think you are entiled to something. You pay 15$ because you choose to, you can give feedback sure, but you ARE NOT, entitled to anything period. Honestly after reading that it just makes people like you look like entitled brats.
Last edited by Shampro; 2013-01-06 at 02:32 PM.
He treats snide, disrespectful fucks like the snide and disrespectful fucks that they truly are. If anything, I consider him to be giving those that exhibit such behavior a lesson in human relations that, apparently, was never taught to them by their parents or other authority figures.Some go " But wait a minute they are still a billion dollar company" Being Number 1 and having billions doesn't mean a thing if you can't sustain that, and if the direction is to treat people the way GC does is going to be the benchmark, then Blizzard is in a lot of trouble, go ahead Yuck it up. Don't worry people will eventually move on, but like with many other very successful corporations it can go down and never get back up.
If you disagree with him, he always asks for parses, evidence, etc. for why the disparity of opinion exists. If you tweet him claiming he hates the entire playerbase, you can't honestly expect him to respond constructively to that, can you?
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Don't remind me, TotC was an all time low in PvE content. And yes Ghostcrawler needs to just follow two set of rules:
1. Make the game as just and fair as possible you can. Let the player decide how to play it, it's a MMO don't sheep him into one raid version, one PvP mode, etc..
2. Try to hear the feedback from the community and always know that what you did might not be good when the community recieves it. Almost like your writing a book and then the people come and criticise it. You only wrote the book for other people to read so then you should expect criticism and try to improve next time.
Follow that set of rules and you got a hit going. At least that's my opinion if I was in his place, but then again I have always been a good guy and tried to please everyone.
Last edited by mmoc0127ab56ff; 2013-01-06 at 02:29 PM.
That is right I choose to pay 15$, and to any business the bottom line is what the customer spends, you are right i am entitled to be treated respectfully and to hold certain expectations. You seem to think because Blizzard is a Billion Dollar Company they make games and do us all a favor, and that grants them special privilage. I assure you it doesn't I do have a vested interest in what i have but in, and I think it is reasonable for anybody who has put in 15$ a month to do that very thing, and when the Lead Developer decides to get smart mouthed and decides to spout off on twitter in a very disrespectful way, I think it is more than prudent for paying customers to say " Wait a minute, whether GC liked or disliked someones question" he always has the choice aswell to answer in a tactful way or simply ignore it and move on.
Entitled brats feel they are owed something for nothing, a prudent consumer is someone who pays for something and demands to have the merchant be accountable for their product/
Milli Vanilli, Bigger than Elvis
I'm sure he was the sole designer, coder, visionary, and tester of TotC though, amirite? In that case, it most definitely was GC's fault, as surely nobody else could have possibly been involved.
Ulduar, on the other hand, surely was developed when GC was taking his vacation months, as there is no WAY he could possibly have had anything to do with it, as it's the best raid ever since MC.
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You only wish for them to be held accountable to your standards. You are the epitome of a self-entitled customer wrapped in a juicy layer of ignorance.
Paying 15$ doesn't give you the right to talk shit to developers, even GC has said this. You expect to be threated like a king while talking down to a developer? REALLY? Do you go to a Store and rage at the employees calling them idiots and incapable because you bought something and is not what you expected, and expect to be 100% threated like a respectful custumer? You are not entitled to anything, no matter how much you think you are, you either learn to give feedback or stfu. If you disrecpect someone dont expect pure respect in return. Life 101.
Last edited by Shampro; 2013-01-06 at 02:49 PM.
Actually I do know where things come from and how business works. I also work for a living so, when I spend money or invest my time or any resource, It matters to me how what i choose to spend on performs.
I personally don't care what you can stand, I think you are being overly emotional, and you are projecting your hostility, rather then looking at the over all issue objective. You are as much a part of the problem as the people you are complaining about. If other peoples opinions of feelings on firing GC get you that upset, then that is your personal issue, and I am not going to make it my problem.I don't blindly stick up for a company.
I see how people like you reply and THEN I stick up for them because I can't stand people like you.
Subscribers tied to how many people are in the game. It didn't decline last querter it held steady, which is not that great if it remains the same or goes down since after releasing another expansion. That is just basic business.That's a decline in subs, not in the game.
And I would suggest looking up those numbers again, because the 3th was not a decline and Q4 isn't known yet.
You don't know who i am, and you do not know the many others who disagree with you and me, who also think GC should be fired. You aren't in any position and neither is any developer of a company to pass judgements on people or be abusive and suggest what people deserve, and it is obnoxious to think so.They are treated exactly as they should be.
Most companies are driven by money, but even with those greedy companies there's a limit: The "fact" that someone pays them money does not give them the right to act like assholes towards developers.
It has nothing to do with your "opinion", it's the part where you want everyone to be fired because you don't like what they do. That is stupid, get it?
Ooh dear yes, I have heard that argument for the last two years.
And guess what? WoW still has more customers than any other sub-based MMORPG, so it's not damaging them at all.
Like has nothing to do with it, but when a represenative of a company millions of people pay to play is being this disrespectful, and treatiing people like dirt yes, as for him and how he feels, he also made a choice to and makes choices everyday.
And making passive aggressive snarky comments leads me to believe maybe he should work behind the scenes or in something different that doesn't require dealing with the public.
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No, nobody should have to tolerate abuse, and he has tools for which to deal with that, that do not consist of being rude or arrogant. But Paying for a service does entitle you to accountability, that is the very nature of exchanging currency for goods and services.
Milli Vanilli, Bigger than Elvis
How about thinking a little further than 2 inches from the nose? How about he is picking such tweets which allow him to answer within the character limits allowed on Twitter?
Intelligent, and valid comments/suggestions deserve a rather thorough recognition, and answer.
They may in some cases very well get exactly that in other shape or form in the forums, or in a blog.
But let's play this game for now..... You, and everyone who shares your opinion to fire GC....
Tell me EXACTLY what GC's job description is, what his responsibilities are, and then why he failed according to that.
If you cannot deliver exactly that (and I am sure you cannot, unless you are part of Blizzards Management).... then just be silent, and stop demanding some persons firing. Such claim can only be made when you know what their job actually is.
Anything else is not just unreasonable, it's incompetent and immature ranting.
Milli Vanilli, Bigger than Elvis
Except GC has poor PR skills. That's why he should talk less and do more. Aren't that what "Community Managers" job? While I understand that news comming from him feel more direct as he is the "Lead System Designer" I don't think I would have time or effort to answer as much on Twitter as he does...
Kinda feel obliged to quote the <you had one job> and CG should stick to what his job is and let the "Community Managers" sweat-talks us with lies of future kick-ass PvE content and such.
Last edited by mmoc0127ab56ff; 2013-01-06 at 03:01 PM.
As oppossed to antagonistic snide comments, directed at anybody not who expect GC to have to class and take the high road. What is his job, he is lead developer of World of Warcraft. His Dutys consist of making a game that potential subscribers want to buy, he interacts with the community to have a line of communication open to get direct feedback from possible current and new customers. And while he has his Blizzard hat on, he is a represenative of Activision/Blizzard and should conduct himself accordingly, and if and when he does have interactions with the public as part of what he does, if someone is being rude or disrespectful, he has the option of ignoring them, and answering a question from someone that he finds more acceptable.
Milli Vanilli, Bigger than Elvis
What should you say? Apologize to a guy who is taking his free freaking time to answer your dumb questions and flaming. You really are an ungrateful one. Do you ever say anything decent? Honestly, people like you boil my blood more than I should allow for.
To stay in line with your post where you call GC a failure: mirror mirror, get one and look at it if you want to talk about failure. Gotta love flaming, insulting and degrading a person who isn't here to defend himself.
I concur. I guess this would count for a majority, if we follow forum poster logic.
He was around for Sunwell, iirc.
I dunno. I tend to support the idea that the "silent majority" doesn't even know who GC even is, let alone his forums avatar.
I strongly believe in human natural behavior. And that commands that a happy person is (unfortunately) less outspoken than an unhappy person.
Happy players enjoy the game, and don't spend time getting into the forums to tell exactly that.
Proof? I don't know. Evidence? Yes.... If all 10 mio subs would actively express their opinions, the forums would be flooded like crazy, and more than often they'd crash under the load of forum posts, and traffic there.