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    According to the dragon ball wikia timeline, Goku was born in the Age 737 and defeated Frieza in the Age 762, when he was 25. Buu was destroyed in the Age 774, when Goku was 37 (plus a year for Hyperbolic Time Chamber, so 38). Apparently Bils faces them sometime between Ages 776 and 779, so Goku is about 40, and beat Frieza roughly 15 years ago.

    If Bils knew about him 39 years ago, then assuming the movie takes place in Age 776, he knew when Goku was born. Maybe Broly wasn't the only person who listen to him cry as a child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letmesleep View Post

    @the0o? Really? When was that mentioned :O
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    i thought neither were born with it
    I remember seeing it somewhere, after doing some research it seems likely that AT just FORGOT to give them tails.... lol

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    So we could infer that he either saw goku as a child or his birth... imagine goku's mom was in the movie, ermergerd.

    Or he saw goku escape vegeta to earth.

    In the video games, Bils always comes in after frieza uses the finisher he used to destroy planet vegeta. I think we're gonna see Bils appear right after the destruction of planet vegeta in a flash back or something

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    Quote Originally Posted by the0o View Post
    I remember seeing it somewhere, after doing some research it seems likely that AT just FORGOT to give them tails.... lol
    I've heard that the explanation (I can't remember if it was Toriyama that gave the explanation) is that Saiyan tails are a recessive trait, so few hybrid-Saiyans are born with them.

    Hmm, wonder what would happen if a Saiyan bred with another tailed creature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoma View Post
    I've heard that the explanation (I can't remember if it was Toriyama that gave the explanation) is that Saiyan tails are a recessive trait, so few hybrid-Saiyans are born with them.

    Hmm, wonder what would happen if a Saiyan bred with another tailed creature.
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    Bils looks like a dog owner



    "Awww, you transformed. Who's a good Saiyan?"

    Anyways, apparently Akira Toriyama wrote a letter saying that the new movie is revenge for the live-action movie (Dragon Ball Evolution).

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    thats why this better be a full length movie.... IT BETTER BE 3 HOURS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoma View Post
    Bils looks like a dog owner



    "Awww, you transformed. Who's a good Saiyan?"

    Anyways, apparently Akira Toriyama wrote a letter saying that the new movie is revenge for the live-action movie (Dragon Ball Evolution).
    Revenge against who? And do you have a source for that? I'd be very interested in reading anything written by Toriyama about the new movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurcus View Post
    Revenge against who? And do you have a source for that? I'd be very interested in reading anything written by Toriyama about the new movie.
    On the wikia, from the movie's page

    http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Dra...82013_movie%29

    A 30 minute Battle of Gods discussion panel was held at Jump Festa 2013; on the Jump Super Stage, on December 22, 2012. Along with the voice actors Masako Nozawa, Mayumi Tanaka, Toshio Furukawa, the film director Masahiro Hosoda, editor-in-chief Akio Iyoku, and Toei Animation producer Gyarmath Bogdan took part at the discussion which was overseen by former YBS TV announcer Mariko Nakagomi. Masako Nozawa read out a letter from Akira Toriyama saying he tried hard as personal revenge for the live-action film which was bad, and that he and the scriptwriters reworked the story a bunch of times. The character images Toriyama drew for the movie were displayed; he drew Android 18 with purple hair instead of blonde and he had to have this pointed out to him.

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    Interesting because in some of the images I seen drawn, (for the movie) Trunks had blue hair instead of purple.

    Toriyama doesn't know his material as well as the fans do. dat feel when no ultimate Gohan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iadamson View Post
    Interesting because in some of the images I seen drawn, (for the movie) Trunks had blue hair instead of purple.

    Toriyama doesn't know his material as well as the fans do. dat feel when no ultimate Gohan.
    hes a forgetful man,
    most of this was in the 80s ad 90s so its more than 10 years ago
    hes made tons of animes

    i can forgive him

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    Is that a SSJ3 Vegeta I see?

    This movie's going to be awesome. Also loved the newest episode of Abriged, the Vegeta and Yamcha thing had me in tears. Points for Trunks' badass reveal as well.
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    Soooo... will it take a SSJ3 Gogeta to defeat Bils? Or are all the SSJ3 Vegeta pictures just fanart?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardstyler01 View Post
    Soooo... will it take a SSJ3 Gogeta to defeat Bils? Or are all the SSJ3 Vegeta pictures just fanart?
    As far as I know, no, they're not fanart. It was linked a few pages back, seems it came from some magazine in Japan. It had SSJ3 Gogeta, Goku, Vegeta and Gotenks.
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    Haha SSJ3 Gogeta is op as fuck I mean gogeta in just SSJ oneshotted Janemba with some kind of reality shit and SSJ3 couldn't even scratch him. Which means Bils has to be stronger than janemba who was stronger than Ultimate super buu now which if you think about it is rather scary as janemba warped reality by just being alive.
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    I really dont know why Gogeta was able to beat Janemba so easily in SSJ when Fusiondance fusion is additive and not multiplicative like Potaras.
    What were the mutipliers? SSJ x25, SSJ2 x50, SSJ3 x200? So Fusiondance would only be x2 (if both fighters are equal) or am i missing something?
    SSJ3 Goku should be a lot stronger than even SSJ2 Gogeta (x200 Power increase vs. x100 Power Increase).

    But SSJ3 Gogeta would be really strong on a level of a SSJ4.

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    bills.... literal god

    no duh hes strong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liebchen View Post
    I really dont know why Gogeta was able to beat Janemba so easily in SSJ when Fusiondance fusion is additive and not multiplicative like Potaras.
    What were the mutipliers? SSJ x25, SSJ2 x50, SSJ3 x200? So Fusiondance would only be x2 (if both fighters are equal) or am i missing something?
    SSJ3 Goku should be a lot stronger than even SSJ2 Gogeta (x200 Power increase vs. x100 Power Increase).

    But SSJ3 Gogeta would be really strong on a level of a SSJ4.
    SS1=x50, SS2=x100, SS3=x400, SS4~x4000.

    And I don't think Janemba was too far out of SS3 Goku's league. Yes, he was stomping him a bit, but as we've seen before, even very small differences in power level can lead to complete rapetrains.

    Even so, I have a few theories on why Gogeta is stronger than SS3 Goku.
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    We must here the theories. They need to be written down and preserved on the interwebs for eternity.

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    is it stated to be an additive fusion rather than a multiplier of some kind?
    dont forget both goten and trunks were not that powerful, but gotenks at ss3 could stand with super buu

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