Well this thread needs to be closed IMO. People won't listen to anything, the argument is back down to like page 10 in progress.
You all realize that it is you that needs to feel like the special snowflake, correct? I mean, you do see that right? Why else would you need to see raids.
the main issue is that raids are where the story ends up now so not doing a raid means missing a story. You can watch videos etc but its not the same. I wouldnt care if the raid was some extra instance that was obscenely hard that had nothing to do with the story but restricting access to vital parts is not good.
I wisht he mods would infract non constructive posters. Mods are watching and participating in this thread. This for all purposes is a good thread. The OP post has been entirely ignored by the majority since this thing hit page 10. People not following this thread however would not know that. So please be constructive or contribute. Thanks Enjoy your stay.
I paid $1 for Angry Birds and it's taken me a ridiculous number of hours to progress through all of the screens 3-starring them one by one without guides/videos/help/advice of any kind. I'm down to about 15 of the last extras. That is quite a bit of entertainment value for my $1.
For $15/month I better get a lot more than "Connected" out of a game.
And the people saying "casuals shouldn't get to do this" aren't parrots as well? The argument goes both ways. People without the time to put in want to see where the story is going and be a part of it, it is a RPG after all. The people who do have the time to do it miss the days of standing in Orgimmar and Stormwind on top of the mail boxes, being spammed with whispers asking where they got that thing they have. We all want to feel special in some way. The fact that people argue over this and get so angry about it just proves why video games will never be considered an art form and move past the squabbling, petty, rage filled community that it is. It saddens me to see threads like this, because in the end, it doesn't matter.
Blizzard won't listen to you. Blizzard won't give casuals heroic gear. Blizzard won't deny it's customers the chance to see what it has created. They are trying to make a larger community effort. Maybe if these people could get some entry level experience and gear, hardcore guilds would have a larger recruitment base. Maybe they want people to see what they spent years working on. They are artists, and artists want to share what they have done with as many people as possible.
We have faced trials and danger, threats to our world and our way of life. And yet, we persevere. We are the Horde. We will not let anything break our spirits!"
I do make time to do LFR, which allows me to see the content. Problem?
But you're right - Organized raiding will never, ever be as fun for me as going out on the weekends, pursuing my career and studies, and having meaningful relationships. I guess I just don't have what it takes to be elite at this game anymore. It's fine, though. I've got my Hand of A'dal title, and I'm certain most of the "hardcore" players posting in this thread don't have that. So, bragging right secured.
Last edited by Athael; 2013-07-05 at 10:58 AM.
What is "completing the game" is different from person to person. Even long before LFR ppl with less time played happily and did stuff which wasn't raids. "Completing the game" in terms of seeing all the content was something hardcore raiders did, but they also got burnt out and i'm not sure they enjoyed the game more than anyone else. And why d you have yo complete the game to enjoy it? Does it always have to be the goal of the destination that is the enjoyment not the travel there?
Actually it does. Why? Because you all pay the same. Since this is a financial transaction the "logic" part in the marketplace goes along these lines...If you buy a car you can get the vanilla model or you can pony up more $$$ and get it tricked out with all the neat doodads. If Blizz offered super ultra content for folks who pay say $18 or 19.99/month then those who pay $14.99 wouldn't bitch a single word.
You morons can't comprehend the psychology of the market place. If you pay more you are entitled to more, if you pay the same everyone who pays that amount gets the same goodies.
Personally Blizzard should have premium servers that cater to the "hardcore" player base which would be an epic experience for those on that type of server for it would be full of raiding cockblocks and guild wars between competing factions. All of which I know firsthand from my time with Everquest's Rallon and Tallon Vex servers where we killed entire guilds who were waiting outside a boss getting ready to go in only to be rolfstomped by raiders who then rolled into the boss and took the title/loot.
The goal and the travel is different for everyone. And with LFR introduced you opened up another path for a lot of players that wasnt interested in the time commitment of organized raiding. This means there is more goals and more paths in the game. Meaning at the end that the game can be played in more different ways. Which by my standards is a good improvement.