Is Azshara the most powerful non Titan/Old God character in WoW?

[Aquamonkey]

Well ...http://www.wowpedia.org/File:AzsharaSL.jpg

Why couldn't she be the other type of mermaid, with the fish part on top and the lady part on the bottom?

[Murderdoll]

I just think its hilarious that so many people hold the Lich King in such high regard. He is an ant in comparison.

[Pandragon]

Just saying this now. Wrathion is most likely the strongest being on Azeroth. In dragon years he is currently a whelp and he has already kill full grown blackdragons. He gave us the power to kill his father. He has currently gathered power from the bosses in Mists. We have no clue what the extent of his power is, or how much power he retained from Deathwing.

[TJ]

Kil'Jaeden is the strongest, I'd say. I'd say he's a league higher than Azshara, people underestimate his power greatly. I'd like to see Azshara enslave the Dreadlords like they were nothing.

[Rumred]

IMO it would go including all i can think about ATM:

Sargeras>Rest of the Titans>Kil'jaeden>Archimonde>Medivh>=Azshara>Naaru>Velen>LichKing>Old Gods>Deathwing>Demi-gods


Medivh and Azshara - both are Very powerful, but both failed to bring Kil'jaeden in the World!
Naaru - are pure energy and are enemy of the burning legion
Velen - very powerful but was not boosted like Kil'jaeden and Archimonde by Sargeras
Lich King - a force made by Kil'jaeden, that is unstoppable
Old Gods - Mostly play with Mortals and minds of Dragons
Dragons Aspects(Deathwing) - Remade by the Titans, Deathwing has the power of all 5 Into himself. Making him very strong!

Wow is all i can say you have it so ass backwards. The Old gods are weaker the Azshara who serves them? The Old Gods are second only to the titans. All we have ever done is kill their heavily weakened physical form which will regenerate in time. C'Thun and Yogg are still very much around. Yaasjh or w/e the one who the titans killed its hinted even he isn't dead for good and could be brought back. Sargeras>=Titans(together they could prob beat him)>Old Gods>Aegwynn?>KJ/Archimond/Azshara/Deathwing/Medivh(all are so close its hard to tell who is more powerful)>Dragon Aspects at their prime>Demi Gods/Lich King> the rest. Its hard to figure out how powerful the naaru really are they could be near that of the old gods or down by the demi gods.

[TJ]

Your just pulling shit out of your ass dude.

The Lich King is probably the single most powerful, non old god/titan empowered being to ever live! The Lich King isnt even a person, hes a jailer of the damned, a never ending being. The Lich King NEVER dies, Bolvar is the Lich King right now. The Lich King NEVER died and never can. By that logic he is the strongest, because when all the Titans or Old Gods or powerful Mortals are dead, the Lich King will still be alive, harvesting their souls and becoming stronger.

He also bested Illidan in a fight no problem. You cant kill the Lich King, its been said, only our heros know he is alive and Fjord. The rest of the people assume his power is gone, which it isnt its enternal. So you cant fucks with the LK.

Deathwing was only so powerful because he had old god power. Thats a fact. He was a powerful Earth Warder prior, but he didnt possess the powers he ever did while he was good. Even Blizzard stated there was an old god somewhere, "cashing deathwings checks," so that being said he was just a pawn. His power and his character were both expendable.

Azshara is something COMPLETELY different. She is infused with old god power like Deathwing, but also has grown stronger in the thousands of years she has been underwater. Deathwing was dying being held together by huge plates of steel, he had no control. Azshara, has been growing and gaining power for years and years AFTER she was old god infused, and after she was named the strongest mage of her time.

All she has to do is take back the sunwell and she will be unstoppable. I think even Titans and Old Gods would have trouble fighting her with that kind of power.

No, nowhere near that powerful...

The Titans would wipe the floor with her with ease, EASE. There is no comparison between them, nothing at all. Mortals don't stand a chance against that power, she wouldn't be able to do a thing.

[Teebone]

She's a friggen god[dess] and could easily be the main villian of an expansion of her own. Likely this was the canon reason the Abyssal Maw never came out.

[TJ]

Mannoroth isn't a good judge of power. I used to fall asleep during the fight with him, and a single death knight now-a-days can faceroll him.
Just because I make the spellcraft to identify a charm doesnt mean I'll make the will save; all this means is that illidan forgot to roll out all the 1s before hand.
Nagas are like CR10 at best.
She still has to hold the thing and mages have poor reflex saves.



A'dal one shotted Doomwalker.
Muru didn't hit anywhere near hard enough to one shot Doomwalker.

Muru was no where near as strong as A'dal.

Ingame mechanics don't mean anything, don't bring them into these debates.

[Teebone]

Just saying this now. Wrathion is most likely the strongest being on Azeroth. In dragon years he is currently a whelp and he has already kill full grown blackdragons. He gave us the power to kill his father. He has currently gathered power from the bosses in Mists. We have no clue what the extent of his power is, or how much power he retained from Deathwing.

Powerful? No. Resourceful? Yes. Most intelligent? Possibly. Defeatable? Easily. He is, as you already stated, a mere whelp. No where close to the experience needed to be conqueror or leader like Kil'Jaeden and Azshara respectfully. The Naga are the largest threat to Azeroth right now... if Wrathion is as clever as he appears to be, he may just make an Alliance with Azshara... the havok those two could wreak...

Dude! Just I just figure out the next expac????

[IdTheDemon]

Azshara is so underrated it's sad. How anyone can think that the Lich King or Deathwing can defeat her is insane.

Mannoroth felt her magic power and claimed that only Archimonde/Kil'Jaeden and Sargeras were her match, and this was Pre-Old God Empowerment. Throw in the recently captured Neptulon and you have a recipe for disaster.

[Tender]

I don't really see the point in trying to determine "who's more powerful than who" because there just isn't enough information about most characters to even begin to rank them. Context is also an issue too, and then "power" itself is even subjective - there are many forms of power.

Agreed. Sorry, this isn't Pokemon or DBZ, we dont have appropriate powerlevels for Lore figures. if we did, LK would be well below even our faction leaders, as they scale with each Expac.......

TO think - Mekkatorque could down Arthas....

*Shakes head clear of Gnomish calamity*
given their own ideal situations, one could suppose any Major Lore Figure would be comparable to each other.

[derpkitteh]

even more gusta....

[jdfrost]

"Azshara approached Mannoroth and demanded an explanation. Enraged by both his own failure and the questions asked by the Queen, he nearly attacked Azshara, but quickly realized the folly of such an attempt when he realized that Azshara kept inside her a power to which only Sargeras, Kil'jaeden or Archimonde would prove superior. Azshara forgave him that mistake and urged him on to allow Sargeras entrance to Kalimdor."

http://www.wowwiki.com/Queen_Azshara

"At the height of his powers, Medivh worked his magics and struggled with Sargeras in his tower of Karazhan. His powers were such that the trauma of his death laid a curse on his once wondrous tower and the surrounding area that became Deadwind Pass. "

http://www.wowwiki.com/Medivh

Where Azshara is almost equal to Sargeras and Medivh had Sargeras inside of him they would be equal, Both can not be really killed. Medivh claims Sargeras is no longer inside him, but Sargeras is Lost atm. he could be laying low in Medivh!

[RicardoZ]

A'dal one shotted Doomwalker.
Muru didn't hit anywhere near hard enough to one shot Doomwalker.

Muru was no where near as strong as A'dal.

And yet we are still the only two to mention Naaru in this thread...why?

[TJ]

"Azshara approached Mannoroth and demanded an explanation. Enraged by both his own failure and the questions asked by the Queen, he nearly attacked Azshara, but quickly realized the folly of such an attempt when he realized that Azshara kept inside her a power to which only Sargeras, Kil'jaeden or Archimonde would prove superior. Azshara forgave him that mistake and urged him on to allow Sargeras entrance to Kalimdor."

http://www.wowwiki.com/Queen_Azshara

"At the height of his powers, Medivh worked his magics and struggled with Sargeras in his tower of Karazhan. His powers were such that the trauma of his death laid a curse on his once wondrous tower and the surrounding area that became Deadwind Pass. "

http://www.wowwiki.com/Medivh

Where Azshara is almost equal to Sargeras and Medivh had Sargeras inside of him they would be equal, Both can not be really killed. Medivh claims Sargeras is no longer inside him, but Sargeras is Lost atm. he could be laying low in Medivh!

Hmmm, Azshara is nowhere near Sargeras >.> Nowhere near. If you weren't implying that then I apologise.

[wych]

And yet we are still the only two to mention Naaru in this thread...why?

Naaru are pretty new, tbh I have no idea where to match their power levels because i've never heard of them fighting or interacting with anybody in our current universe, all I know is that the blood elves managed to keep one captive

[xixixviixiiii]

Sargeras >= Titans > Old Gods > Archimonde >= Kil'Jaeden >= Azshara >= Deathwing. Put Medivh & whatever where you want but this is obviously how it would look in terms of power. Is Azshara powerful? No doubt, but nowhere close to Sargeras or Old Gods. Like Deathwing, Illidan & the Lich King, much of her power comes from Sargeras / the Burning Legion & Old Gods. As a mage on her own, she was very powerful (probably around Aegwynn & a bit below Medivh in terms of power).

She will likely be seen as more powerful because of the "gift" given to her from N'Zoth but she is still very much mortal and since her use to the Burning Legion & Sargeras is nonexistent at this point basically, her overall power, while still high, is nowhere near what many people are making it out to be.

[Ealyssa]

Naaru are pretty new, tbh I have no idea where to match their power levels because i've never heard of them fighting or interacting with anybody in our current universe, all I know is that the blood elves managed to keep one captive

Too be fair, Mu'ru capture was a "plan" (Velen foretold his emprisonment and M'uru accepeted it). Without the Naaru consent, they wouldn't have a chance to take him.

Naaru are probably the strongest "good race" of the warcraft universe (at least the the Bridenbrad quest, Naaru are the only one who could save him, not Remulos nor Alexstrasza could do it)

[Golden Yak]

http://i.imgur.com/MCx5pIZ.jpg

I've always liked this rendition the best:



Yes, that shark is in front of her.

[Aquamonkey]