New Stuff Coming to the Pet Store!

[Paula Deen]

Just thought I would throw in my 2 cents here, you guys all complaining about it not being ingame, I have a strong feeling they will be. Remember the Black Market AH and the Actual AH have cosmetic tabs and have had them since 5.2..... they will be ingame for gold, at least I would hope that would be the purpose of a cosmetic category.

[Seezer]

If you really think blizzard will ever be pay to win, you're not a very smart person.

You're not a very smart person to think anything is out of the realm of possibility with them. Lesser charms will be able to be bought. XP buff able to be purchased. So if you purchase lesser charms, and win upgrades for it, it's pay to win. With transmog gear, they will see how much money is able to be made off of it. More and more transmog gear will be sold. Then guess what? "Hey guys! WE are introducing Valor Points available for purchase in the in game store!". And then slowly, gear is able to be purchased with stats.

If you can't see the bigger picture here, then I think you're the one not being smart.

[Ianus]

i hope they drop on 5 mil next exp and then they will wonder why..

[Noomz]

And so it begins.

Begun the flame wars have, mmh.


GW2 has had this kind of thing since launch, it's how they make money. It doesn't subtract quality from anythign else they produce.

[Seezer]

Blizzard should ban Kotick from their offices. And their meetings. The more and more I'm looking at it. The Activision/Blizz merger totally put Blizz under Act control.

[Deleted]

I can definatly see them offering pvp-sets in the future - since their reasoning would be "pvp is about skill and not gear, so it is not b2w". We'll see.

I just hope that they won't make ugly tier sets on purpose to draw players to the items of the store. But it's a very small hope.

[Seezer]

Begun the flame wars have, mmh.


GW2 has had this kind of thing since launch, it's how they make money. It doesn't subtract quality from anythign else they produce.

GW2 doesn't have a sub fee tho.

[Deleted]

Except the in-game items from cards (Spectral tiger, epic shirt, sword rack, companion pets, vanity items like the pedestal etc.) are done by ARTISTS and PROGRAMMERS taken from the Blizzard team, not by another company.

Which as I point out in the very bit you bolded and underlined is another thing entirely. Those products are not intended for the general WoW audience; it's a cross promotion to bring people playing the card game into WoW and vice versa; an incentive to try other licensed products or a reward for those already using them. Not something they just made and slapped up for sale; you actually have to buy a different product entirely and even then the chance you get one of the items is small.

It's not the same thing as taking sub money, creating a piece of content then putting it up for sale as a quick cash grab.

But hey ho, you keep on truckin'!

[Deleted]

Begun the flame wars have, mmh.


GW2 has had this kind of thing since launch, it's how they make money. It doesn't subtract quality from anythign else they produce.

Do you have to pay a monthly fee to play GW2? We are all paying customers of the game but we are still priced for all extra character services and store items. Other games give you some store-credit for being a subscriber. Not Blizzard, they charge you twice.

[Arewn]

Not to mention that an experience buff is already pay to win. It gives a clear advantage over someone who has not paid.

Certainly, thus far they are planning to limit it into Asia, but as per their own words, it's not out of the table to carry it over into other regions and in all honesty, I have no trust left in them at all this point. It will happen eventually here.

Experience buffs are not pay to win, you are fundamentally misunderstanding what 'pay to win' is if you think that. Leveling is not a race, nor are higher levels unobtainable without experience buffs. Cosmetics and convenience items are not pay to win. They are cosmetic (such as a pet or a weapon skin), and they are convenient (such as an exp booster, which gives the added convenience of a quicker leveling process), but they do not make you more powerful then someone who does not have them. They give you something that those who don't pay can't have, but that something is not 'power' or 'winability'.

That being said, it's incredibly sleazy for Blizzard to put experience buffs in the game, rather then work on the fundamental experience rate problems (taking into consideration that this is a sub fee game).

The additions to the pet store are a huge problem for the player base as well. Even those not interested in buying them are getting affected, since every additional model they add to the cash shop is one less model for their already paying (sub fee and box price) player base.

[Deleted]

GW2 doesn't have a sub fee tho.

You can also buy everything on GW2's shop using in-game gold currency (conversion into gems).

But yeah GW2 does it so why can't WoW charge $10 a PET? (nvm you can get a pack of 3 for that price in GW2 even)

[Feel The Power]

25 bucks for breast enlargement on my gnome!!!! YES

[lettuce]

And thus continues the downward slide of Blizzard's integrity.

[PenguinChan]

And thus continues the downward slide of Blizzard's integrity.

How does selling cosmetic items (That they have been doing since TCG), ruining their integrity? Which most likely isn't even comparable.

[IIamaKing]

Exactly the type of stuff that should be in cash shops, worthless toys.

[artem123]

Not to mention that an experience buff is already pay to win. It gives a clear advantage over someone who has not paid.

Certainly, thus far they are planning to limit it into Asia, but as per their own words, it's not out of the table to carry it over into other regions and in all honesty, I have no trust left in them at all this point. It will happen eventually here.

that means wow has been pay to win since BC? ish. With raf that is, experience buff is apparently pay to win.
BY THAT LOGIC
WHY ARE YOU PEOPLE WHINING NOW
because its already been pay to win for a few years, they're just adding cosmetic / fun / toy items.

So why is the outbreak now, not years ago when its the exact same thing?

[lettuce]

It should be self-explanatory. TCG was one of the earlier steps. More of the same.

[Wilian]

Experience buffs are not pay to win, you are fundamentally misunderstanding what 'pay to win' is if you think that.

It's buying advantage over someone else who has no leveling buff. Nothing is this game is a race (except maybe the race daily quests) by their original intent.

Buying advantage is buying advantage and that is pay 2 win. You can put a lot of bla bla but it doesn't change that one little fact.

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that means wow has been pay to win since BC? ish. With raf that is, experience buff is apparently pay to win.
BY THAT LOGIC
WHY ARE YOU PEOPLE WHINING NOW
because its already been pay to win for a few years, they're just adding cosmetic / fun / toy items.

So why is the outbreak now, not years ago when its the exact same thing?

Yes, I consider RAF a pay to win, it gave TONS of people advantage in the race to level 90 (Har har) who rolled Pandarens. This is just one step further which I also disapprove. And I have ALWAYS complained about RAF so your caps driven shizzle doesn't run with me.

[Hitei]

Which as I point out in the very bit you bolded and underlined is another thing entirely. Those products are not intended for the general WoW audience; it's a cross promotion to bring people playing the card game into WoW and vice versa; an incentive to try other licensed products or a reward for those already using them. Not something they just made and slapped up for sale; you actually have to buy a different product entirely and even then the chance you get one of the items is small.

It's not the same thing as taking sub money, creating a piece of content then putting it up for sale as a quick cash grab.

But hey ho, you keep on truckin'!

So optional paid content that takes away from real development is different from optional paid content that takes away from real development.

Okay, buddy.

[DrMcNinja]

sub based+micro transaction, activi$$ion at its finest xD

Could also say that Vivendi Game$ is being greedy.