We have faced trials and danger, threats to our world and our way of life. And yet, we persevere. We are the Horde. We will not let anything break our spirits!"
Could she adopt a divide and conquer strategy?
Stormwind would fall if she sent in a massive fleet of these improved forsaken bats that spray the plague around.
No, no chance at all. For starters literally no other Horde race likes the Forsaken much and so they would not be willing to back her up. Silvermoon once had a fairly strong Alliance with them but Sylvanas squandered that when she blackmailed them into sending Troops to Northrend before they were able to finish licking their wounds from the battles on Quel'Danas. Nowadays Lor'themar seems to have nothing but contempt for Sylvanas.
In all likelihood Sylvanas wouldn't even get past the Argent Crusade and if she did then she wouldn't get past Ironforge. I just don't know where people get the Idea that the Forsaken are such a strong military force, they had trouble even holding Silverpine, got forced out of Gilneas and only were able to take Southshore because of their Plague. Andorhal is really the only good example of their military strength.
Sylvanas would never do it without backed by the horde, anyways. She and Thrall are buddies. She owes Thrall big time in that siege of undercity.
That scenario Sylvanas conquering EK, is only possible if that Garrosh vs thrall horde civil war lasts for a long period of time and thrall got somehow killed and total chaos is spreading in waves over Kalimdor. When she feels she might have the initative and ask their close BE allies for back up her conquest a lot seems possible with prober use of the plague.
But of course nothing will hapen, cause this mmo is stale.^^
And thats why the UN is typically a useless bag of shit.
Really the only UN war law that most everyone takes seriously and is clearly spelled out is the one concerning mercenary forces. Basically if you are caught acting as a mercenary by the other side, you void having any of the rights guranteed by the Geneva Convention. Which means the people who have captured you can torture you, black mail you, starve you, brainwash you, or even execute you, and its perfectly legal.
Thats why you never really hear about groups officially referring to themselves as mercenaries after WW2. (today there are still mercenaries, but they call themselves "private contractors" which lets them fight as a mercenary and still have human rights benefits through a vocabulary loophole)
I'm noticing that a lot of the arguements in favor of the forsaken are acting as if the Alliance in lore are all a bunch of stupid npcs that will stand stand around and do nothing. Like sneaking into Stormwind and getting plague onto the tram is going to be easy. Or getting bombs powerful enough to destroy the Tram that deep underwater without notice. Like Stormwind has no defenses and it'd be so easy to just fly in spraying plague.
It makes me think the sylvannas supporters in this scenario think that the Alliance in lore is as inept as the npcs you fight against in quests, and they'll sit around doing nothing while you reign plague down on them from above and nothing can stop you, because you're the PC and the player is OP as hell in this game.
I hope she would take over Stormwind and the Alliance could have Ironforge as their new capital.
The Val'kyr are allready half of what Sylvanas had when they joined her. Kill Sylvanas (thus forcing a val'kyr to take her place to rez her) or her val'kyr and boom, no more raising advantage, unless Forsaken turn Spirit Healers to their side, then they will take over the world.
Alone? Nah, the dwarves, gnomes and humans would destroy her.
With the help of the Horde? possibly, the orcs already have their bases in Silverpine. And the blood elves could be of great assistance
Likewise, there is a lot of rules in the UN/Genva that seem like total bullshit
Another example is frowning upon dum dum (fragmentation) bullets, since they cause "too" much damage.
I mean wtf does that even mean? The whole god dam point of a bullet is to cause damage
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it was apprantly easy enough for the Horde to ravage Theramore's docks and air defenses
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Any army, no matter how powerful, automatically loses when the players are thrown into the fray.
Hell thats the deciding factor for victory in Azeroth, whichever side has the players fighting for them
We have faced trials and danger, threats to our world and our way of life. And yet, we persevere. We are the Horde. We will not let anything break our spirits!"
The Horde wouldn't back her though after the events of Siege of Orgrimmar. The Horde in Kalimdor owes a great deal to the Alliance and wouldn't get involved. Lor'themar and the Elves were even trying to break away from the Horde. He's also made his disgust for Sylvanas pretty much known after she forced him to send Elves to Northrend to support her in revenge instead of allowing them appropriate time to rebuild their home. Her trying to resurrect his people as Forsaken during Siege added to the tension.
Sylvanas would be isolated and alone in her conquest against the might of the Alliance, Argent Crusade, Ebon Blade, and possibly even the Blood Elves. It's even likely the rest of the Horde would go to the aid of the Alliance as if Sylvanas were able to take over the Eastern Kingdoms (which she isn't,) nothing would stop her from focusing her attention to Kalimdor next after gaining a massive army in resurrected Alliance soldiers.
Last edited by Bullettime; 2013-07-28 at 12:07 AM.