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  1. #681
    Quote Originally Posted by ro9ue View Post
    Underground is the coolest idea, you should definitely check out the Spider Kingdom thread. Golden Yak did a hell of a job fleshing out the possibilities of something like that.
    And because of that kind of detail, such an expansion will never be. Blizzard can't even do anything even remotely related tangentially to that fan-work without a risk of lawsuit.

  2. #682
    Quote Originally Posted by Steelangel View Post
    And because of that kind of detail, such an expansion will never be. Blizzard can't even do anything even remotely related tangentially to that fan-work without a risk of lawsuit.
    Any fan work is already derivative of Blizzard's property. They can do what they please with any of it.

  3. #683
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    Maybe... there will be no new race

  4. #684
    I have had this theory on Legion politics since BC, that could be the primary plot to a legion expansion.

    The Legion had three primary leaders: Archimonde, Mannoroth, and Kil'jaeden. Two of those were destroyed by the forces of Azeroth, and the third returned humiliated and disgraced after a failed summoning at the Sunwell. Since then, the various demon lords have refused to follow Kil'jaeden, thinking him too weak to lead the Legion. A decade of infighting has failed to reveal a replacement, and Sargeras has yet to show himself, but there is one thing that a prospective Lord of the Legion could do to bring all the various factions under their rule: destroy Azeroth. Conquer the planet that has thwarted the Legion, not once, but three (maybe more depending on how you count it) times. So one of the lords gets antsy and rolls out an invasion, and boom! We have an expansion.

    This set up leads to, in my opinion, a much more interesting story then if the Legion were to just attack. Instead we have opportunities for intrigue, treachery, politicking, and other maneuverings within the context of fighting endless waves of demonic Invaders. Expansion opens with the antsy, paltry, badly planned invasion that is easily thwarted in a pre-expansion event. Wrynn then calls up the new Warchief (whoever it's going to be) and suggests a united coalition to take the fight to the Legion. Thus a planar expansion where the different zones are different Legion controlled worlds and/or planes. As events unfold and the political situation of the Legion becomes clear several Azerothian figures might make their own bids for control over the Legion.

    On a related note, back in Cata, there was talk that after the Draenei, Blizzard felt that adding new races needed better lead in and context within the extended 'verse. With that in mind, we can look to the side plots of Cata and MoP to see what the new races are likely to be. My guess? High Elves, coalesced under Vareesa Windrunner and operating out of Dalaran (with cosmetic options that suggest half-elves), switching out the Warlock and Paladin classes for Druid and/or Shaman, emphasizing a majority of their populous coming from the Ranger's that were active participants in the second war and banished from Belvish culture after the transition. This is shaky for mechanical reasons rather then lore reasons in my opinion, but I think the Dalek rule will hold true here (if it's popular, it will happen). As for the Horde? I think there is grounds for a Dragonkin (Half-Dragon) race, led by Wrathion. The little whelpling, after failing to unite the world under the Alliance banner due to Wrynn's moment of benevolence, decides to take a more active role in world events, the so called "age of Mortals" be damned, and gathers together the Black Dragonkin, formerly working for Neltharion, and aligns himself with the Horde, out of pure spite against Varian Wrynn and thinking the new Warchief will be easier to manipulate. He'll go along with the party line while the Legion is threatening, but should show some interesting story a few expansions later. Dragonkin can have an option to disguise themselves as another race out of combat (suggesting that they might already have been active as Wrathion's lackeys during MoP), as well as a breath attack racial.

    Just my take on it, anyway. And where did the Original post go?

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    And I want Suramar and Tomb of Sargeras, raised from the ocean.
    Not so large content for the whole expansion, but seems good for future patch, i suppose :-)
    Do you guys remember mission in WC 3 TFT ?

    Where Meiv stalked Illidan and met a Stormreaver hermit orc (Stormreaver clan, led by Gul Dan, "betrayed" horde during the siege of Storm and the ships sailed to seek the Tomb of Sargeras), so that mission was a great adventure in a sunken temple, and as i remember, we can collect 9 pieces of weapon-sphere, and escape from Illidan's earthquake in the end of mission.

    You can dream up!

    A couple of fractions

    Horde - Stormreaver Clan Hermits.

    The remains of the old Horde, sailed with Gul Dan on these tropical islands long ago.
    Generally not aware of the news and events, that are happening in the world - almost like Maghar.
    Those are mostly representing with warlocks and shamans. Friendly ogres, a la Ogrilla - ChoGall was a protégé of Gul Dan, do you remember ?

    Alliance - Naisha's Squadron.

    Military Corps of the Night Elves.
    Naisha's Troops, who was a Maiv's leutenants and, they say, she has died in the collapse of the Tomb of Sargeras.
    There are many Guardians (those who were watching Fandral in the initial quests in Hyjal Cataclysm), the friendly stone giants as well among that Corps.
    Constantly at war with the local Nagas.

    Tomb of Sargeras.

    Strictly speaking, the raid.
    Based on the same mission of WC3 TFT.
    Linear, with an entourage and textures of the ancient city in the algae (R'lyeh same!)

    In the beginning, we are led to the instance by the old orc hermit ( back again to the same Wc3 TFT mission), I forgot his name, he is "the narrator," such as Brann in Ulduar.

    Bosses here:

    1) Skeleton Crew/ or some ancient unit, spawning skeletons (try to remember, it was extra task on this mission)
    Then our orc-narrator dies, so we killed these skeletons and saved the souls of his friends - and we go inside the temple.

    2) Fellguard gate guard with a pair of adds-Felhunter.

    3) Turtle / hydra (everything is in Throne of Storms, however) sea dragon / ALL TOGETHER! Maybe, council-style.

    4) The lost and strayed (surely, the evil and hating everyone), the ghost of some night-elf and her "pet" - a stone giant.

    5) Oh, man, where's NAGA in deep-water styled dungeon? Water witch + Warlord naga. Two bosses like dragons in the Cata's Bastion of Twilight.

    6) The spirit of Gul'dan. Skeletal Orc Warlock Summoner.

    7) Naisha. It turns out that she did not die with Temple's collapse, lol, and she became obsessed with Sargeras, after she saw the Eye of Sargeras before Illidan steal it.

    Heroic!

    8) Raid time-run from the instance.
    There's no boss, only traps and so on.

    Enjoy :-)

  6. #686
    shit. The designers has no imagination, no care for depth and there is not a solid hope that they'll be changing. They have admitted their opinions and their thinking is evident in their decisions and the state of the game. WoW didn't turn out to be the brilliant game I thought it would be lore wise and gameplay wise. Just Ghostcrawler getting scared of subscriber lost and decided to suck up to everything and Metzen handing over writting to Kossack to create a more "fan like" story. Blah. I'm sick and tired of this game, this love hate relationship has to end, expansions last freaking years and were left in shitty half satisfying conditions for such long times and most if not all to me didn't pay off. No nothing brilliant, just wasted time. If next expansion isn't good, good riddance, I'm playing never winter, and I may not even play Titan by the attitude their giving it will probably be shit too.

    I think just the fact that the subscription base dropped significantly and with the releasing of new content faster and the subscriptions still expected to drop proves once and for all that Ghostcrawlers approach was wrong! No one will be interested if the game is too dumb! Were not crack addicted idiots, we're not gonna keep playing games that has no benifit for us.
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  7. #687
    Quote Originally Posted by Black Rider View Post
    Blizzard should launch some kind of teasure site for next expansion...
    An ARG for expansion info would be quite fun with such an active, large community.

  8. #688
    Quote Originally Posted by ro9ue View Post
    Boom rise of the legion login!

    why you edit something that doesnt belong to you? isnt it against copyrights?

    the name itself, rise of the legion, the shittest name for expansion ever, somebody before said
    "reich of the legion", haha lol
    stop it dude

  9. #689
    Dunno if it was ever pointed out but that login screen was the original login screen idea for Cataclysm. Which they showed back at the Blizzcon prior to Cata's release. Which is that pic right there, hence the 4.0 internal version and 2004-2010 copyright.

  10. #690
    Quote Originally Posted by ro9ue View Post

    That's actually bit funny giggle!

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    What happened to your old pictures and ideas and such, ro9ue? :<

  12. #692
    Quote Originally Posted by Jambomoon View Post
    And I want Suramar and Tomb of Sargeras, raised from the ocean.
    I like your ideas. Very interesting.

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    No really, why did you get rid of all your stuff? ._.

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    I guess because to many people thought it was a real leak and kept spreading it.

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    What about GoldenYak's Spider Kingdom? No offense to Ro9ue, but that one is WAY more filled out and detailed. If anything was gonna be legit, it'd be that one.

  16. #696
    Quote Originally Posted by AlarStormbringer View Post
    What about GoldenYak's Spider Kingdom? No offense to Ro9ue, but that one is WAY more filled out and detailed. If anything was gonna be legit, it'd be that one.
    GoldenYak's been at it way longer, and his work is broader and deeper than anyone elses. Ro9ue struck lightning though, with artwork that looked enough like Blizzard's work, at a time when folks are anticipating such a reveal, to confuse an unsuspecting world.

  17. #697
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    I'd say the most likely candidates for a new expansion would be;

    #1) Burning Legion - An expansion dealing chiefly with the Legion, though also one that would put the Draenei in the spotlight with Velen's Army of Light, among other things. I can think of no other race that has been described as a 'train wreck' (Metzen) beyond the Draenei, and such an expansion would give them ample opportunity to rectify the poor implementation of this race; not least considering their counter race, the Blood Elves, have had the limelight on them at least once per expansion since TBC (WOTLK: Sunreavers, Cata: The Reliquary, MoP: Lor'Themar Theron & the Blood Elves in general). In an ideal world, this expansion would deal chiefly with Argus; though if Wrathion's little vision at the beginning of the Legendary quest line is to be believed, it may at least begin with a Legion invasion of Azeroth.

    #2) Naga - Since Vashj'ir, the Naga storyline has been largely dead in the water, if you'll pardon the pun. That said, what occurred there and, in particular, the Throne of the Tides, is significant enough for them to pose a threat to the entirety of Azeroth; namely the theft of Neptulon's Trident. By now, it is safe to assume that Azshara has come into possession of the trident which, if she willed it, would give her the power to flood the entirety of Azeroth; resulting in the potential for a no doubt contentious Underwater Expansion.

    #3) Emerald Dream - Haven't given this much thought, but I am sure they could touch on it at some point.

    #4) Bugs - Namely the Silithid, Nerubians and others. The lore states that the vast majority of Azeroth's insect kingdoms are both underground, and interconnected. This gives us the potential, never mind Blizzard, to touch upon storylines/zones that were neglected due to lack of time/resources; Azjol'Nerub for example, having originally been intended to be an entire quest zone, rather than a dungeon.

  18. #698
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    I hope we get Argus as a new planet, High Elves for Alliance, Ogres for Horde OR maybe Demon Hunter Hero Class and no races (I really don't think we need more classes, especially not a hero class, would be cool with demon hunter though!). I hope we have to flee Azeroth because the Legion is attacking, making it possible for us to travel to Argus.

    Map I made. Based completely on http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...on-Argus-xpac) so credit to user Xalviar for the idea that I built this on.
    Maybe two starting zones is a bad idea since (I assume) everyone is fleeing from Azeroth to the same place on Argus and it would be weird to have a choice.

    The new expansion may not even be about this. One can only hope
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  19. #699
    Next class for the new expansion will be mohawk. Similar to pandaren monks, night elf mohawks were already in the game. They have excellent array of abilities, Their main damage spell is pity the fool. They have an excellent variety of healing spells and buffs such as I envy the fool. Every race will be able to be mohawks except pandaren of course.

  20. #700
    Quote Originally Posted by Danielvonluchau View Post
    I hope we get Argus as a new planet, High Elves for Alliance, Ogres for Horde OR maybe Demon Hunter Hero Class and no races (I really don't think we need more classes, especially not a hero class, would be cool with demon hunter though!). I hope we have to flee Azeroth because the Legion is attacking, making it possible for us to travel to Argus.

    Map I made. Based completely on http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...on-Argus-xpac) so credit to user Xalviar for the idea that I built this on.
    Maybe two starting zones is a bad idea since (I assume) everyone is fleeing from Azeroth to the same place on Argus and it would be weird to have a choice.

    The new expansion may not even be about this. One can only hope
    I like the idea

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