We have faced trials and danger, threats to our world and our way of life. And yet, we persevere. We are the Horde. We will not let anything break our spirits!"
5.0 - Horde and Alliance veterans are sent to Pandaria as a advance scouting force. They skirmish at their landing zones in Jade Forest, then begin to explore Pandaria and encounter the Pandaren, Jinyu, Hozen, Yaungol, Mantid, Sha, etc.
5.1 - The main Horde and Alliance armies land on Pandaria's southern shores. They begin setting up beachheads and are immediately locked in conflict (Lions Landing/Dominance Offensive). Meanwhile Garrosh begins chasing powerful artefacts to use in his war on the Alliance, and Anduin tries to stop him. In the course of these events, the Sunreavers in Dalaran actively assist the Horde and Jaina responds by expelling them from Dalaran and declaring the Kirin Tor and Silver Covenant officially for the Alliance.
5.2 - The Zandalari are successful in bringing back the Thunder King and pose a serious invasion threat in Pandaria's northern shores. The Horde and Alliance are still too distracted fighting each other in the south (and Garrosh and his Kor'kron in particular are up to no good hunting down more sources of dark magic), so the Sunreavers (led by Lorthemar Theron) and Silver Covenant (led by Jaina) each mount an offensive on the Isle of the Thunder King with mostly their own forces. The Blood Elves are partly there to demonstrate their military might, and partly to secure powerful artefacts of the Thunder King. Jaina aims to stop them.
5.3 - Garrosh's crimes, goals and attempt on Vol'jin's life lead the Trolls into open rebellion, assisted by Vol'jin's old allies, Thrall, Chen and Baine. Thrall leaves for Orgrimmar to recruit loyal Orcs to the cause. Garrosh sends his Kor'kron to attack Sen'jin Village but is repelled. The Barrens and Durotar become a battleground, and Razor Hill is taken by the rebels. Meanwhile SI:7 agents covertly assist the rebels, as the Alliance has at least as strong an interest in removing Garrosh as the Horde does.
5.4 - Siege of Orgrimmar (pending)
And of course, throughout all these patches we have Wrathion attempting to manipulate events.
So I think it's fair to say that the theme of war has been ever-present in MoP, even if you weren't stabbing Alliance in the throat every day. Also, just like every other expansion there have been multiple plots running at once (eg, Wrath had the Titan Keepers and Malygos' blue flight running at the same time as the Lich King theme), particularly in 5.0 with the exploration of Pandaria, the Sha/Mantid/Mogu/Zandalari. And to in 5.2 with the Thunder King. Those "Pandaria" elements of the story have now finished so Siege will be the resolution of the war plotlines.
We have faced trials and danger, threats to our world and our way of life. And yet, we persevere. We are the Horde. We will not let anything break our spirits!"
On a side note,
Dear Blizzard,
If you are going to railroad your players onto a fixed progression path, you better convincingly sell the narrative that comes with it.
That means "grey areas" in the story are a no-no, especially when it involves the player.
Sincerely,
A player who is disappointed by your incompetent writing.
how is pointing out what happens "throwing a bias spin onto events". I'm not saying horde is better or alliance is better. I'm saying garrosh sucks as an actual leader and always has, in nagrand he was bailed out of things by those around him when he would've led the mag'har into the ground. in northrend he was bailed out of things by saurfang and thrall and those among his forces who actually possessed more than one collective braincell, in cata the only real wins he had were under other peoples' command. in mists he doesn't HAVE any real wins, heck his fallback plan of finding and using a super weapon fails at first cause he finds it slower than the alliance then when he does get it it's destroyed by a kid who was standing in front of him completely stoppable the entire time. and during ALL of this he treats everyone but the orcs (and not even ALL the orcs just the ones that support his ego) like dirt so much that the only reason any of them follow him is out of fear that they'd lose the help of the other horde races by being kicked out or that he'd decide to go after THEM.
...at this point it's almost guaranteed that "war in warcraft" is garrosh getting on his incompetent podium to declare yet another group his enemy for the crime of breathing his air, alliance saying this is horde favoritism, and the more....special....yes.. let's go with special... horde players seeing garrosh as a god because he lets them attack the alliance players who keep saying that out being led by a moron is horde favoritism.
I think you might be underestimating the Old Gods. Deathwing was just a tool, there will be others. If the Earth-Warder can be corrupted, anyone can.
Big K will be back. We lucked out with the Sunwell and the Naaru. It's doubtful we can stand against the full might of the Legion in a face to face clash, we are damn lucky they are having "logistic" problems.
well books are able to delve into the lore on a much more deeper level, something not easily done in game
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well according to Metzen, Deathwing was their 'greatest hammer', their biggest card to play
They intended to use him to bring about their rise in the Hour of Twilight
We have faced trials and danger, threats to our world and our way of life. And yet, we persevere. We are the Horde. We will not let anything break our spirits!"
I feel like the devs were in two minds about Garrosh at that point. I think it was only late Cata that they decided to straight out make him a villain.
Not that Garrosh was exactly being heroic in Stonetalon. The events there were ultimately his fault, even if his generals were overzealous in the execution of their duties. He was merely demonstrating that even he has limits. Of course, now he doesn't...
We have faced trials and danger, threats to our world and our way of life. And yet, we persevere. We are the Horde. We will not let anything break our spirits!"
"I just wanted them to hand us our award! But they were just talk!, talk!, talk!......" - Wrathion
"I just wanted them to hand us our award! But they were just talk!, talk!, talk!......" - Wrathion
We have faced trials and danger, threats to our world and our way of life. And yet, we persevere. We are the Horde. We will not let anything break our spirits!"
We have faced trials and danger, threats to our world and our way of life. And yet, we persevere. We are the Horde. We will not let anything break our spirits!"
actually domination point IS losing more than lion's landing is..again, actually look at both sides when they're on the offensive. alliance has forces INSIDE the horde base, their ships have to be attacked and disabled. HORDE on the other hand has the entirety of its assault force held back by multiple defensive lines of alliance troops with no way into alliance airspace, heck for the longest time even the horde base's flak cannons were bugged so they did nothing to alliance players flying into the base (and even when they aren't they only cover a very small portion of the base)...alliance air defenses however will start hitting a horde player if they go within 20 feet of the front gate with a flying mount. you cay say they're even if you want but alliance manages to keep all the defensive abiliites it's had since WC1 while horde still doesn't have them and for some reason completely forgets how to actually attack effectively.
...at this point it's almost guaranteed that "war in warcraft" is garrosh getting on his incompetent podium to declare yet another group his enemy for the crime of breathing his air, alliance saying this is horde favoritism, and the more....special....yes.. let's go with special... horde players seeing garrosh as a god because he lets them attack the alliance players who keep saying that out being led by a moron is horde favoritism.
Pretty much this and it is kinda sad too. I think events like the Stonetalon showed depth to his character and now he is like "RAWR DIE!". Rathnor was right to that Garrosh was different and not "boring" and they IMO could have worked with that. A more focused Horde with more distinction is what Garrosh brought IMO. I know quite a few players hated Garrosh, but he was different and just rough, but doesn't mean he was necessary bad...at least he wasn't in the first place.