Illidans redemption/revival wasnt the cot dungeon

[xinjun]

Maybe we can use the well that he has there in the Black Temple to resummon him.

[lightofdawn]

would make sense if maiev had secretly stolen the last vial he had taken from the well and we needed to kill her, get it, and resummon him at the sunwell or something

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Maybe we can use the well that he has there in the Black Temple to resummon him.

I wonder what the conversation is going to be like when we suddenly ask for his help with the threat of the Legion.

[Adoxe]

A confirmation was not necessary to begin with, it was just ignorant idiots thinking CoT counted as his return. Still, I'm glad he did that because at least now we've got a proper way to shut up those kind of people..

[lightofdawn]

Why can't people stay dead just for once in this game?

demons cant be killed. they just go back to the twisting nether

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would make sense if maiev had secretly stolen the last vial he had taken from the well and we needed to kill her, get it, and resummon him at the sunwell or something

As much as I hate Maiev I wouldn't want to see her killed, I know that she's gone batshit crazy and the like, but Blizzard is really too quick at killing off great lore characters at times...

[lightofdawn]

Well I think in a burning legion xpac he should have a place..... wether we fight him or we fight to free him....

i would hate to see him come back as an enemy again. he wasnt even a villain to start with, he just did the wrong things for the right reasons... if he comes back he needs to be an ally

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As much as I hate Maiev I wouldn't want to see her killed, I know that she's gone batshit crazy and the like, but Blizzard is really too quick at killing off great lore characters at times...

true. maybe she could just hand it over to summon him. she said herself that she was nothing without the hunt anyway

[Wildtree]

Why can't people stay dead just for once in this game?

People = us.... We rez permanently. thousands of times..
NPC's and lore characters, shouldn't they have the same rights?

lol


Seriously, I see what you mean. I believe the crux lies in the problem that Blizzard made the mistake to kill off some of the most in depth key lore figures.
Illidan shouldn't have died at all, neither should have Kael'Thas. On the same token, maybe Arthas shouldn't have been killed either. Even though I like the story telling that leads to his death. In the long run, it would have been probably better to just achieve a crushing of these characters doings.
Illidan = banished
Kael = imprisoned
Arthas = driven away into hiding with his empire crushed
For future story telling maybe much more interesting, than having to write somewhat plausible story that explains why the key villain is back again from the dead..
It would also give an option of a face turn of a villain. We always get babyfaces turning heel, but I can't think of the reverse situation right of the bat.

[Silas Emile]

Queen Azshara will rez him. Have no fear.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

No surprise for me, as I support Demon Hunters as a class.

[Deleted]

true. maybe she could just hand it over to summon him. she said herself that she was nothing without the hunt anyway

I would love to see her forgive Illidan, if we say, fought against her, not to kill her but rather to try and make her see reason. At the end of the fight she would acknowledge that bringing back Illidan and forgiving him for his "crimes" is the right thing to do.

Heck, it would be awesome if she was present during the summoning, along with perhaps Tyrande and Malfurion.

[Jessicka]

Depends on the Demon. Dreadlords kinda disperse, and then they pop up someplace else two expansions later. Then there are some demons that are basically constructs animated by a controlling spirit. If the construct is killed/destroyed the spirit is set loose and usually returns to its home realm, much like elementals. Lastly, there are mortal or immortal races that are fel empowered. This variety can definitely die, as they are essentially no different from any other mortal or immortal race. However, these fel empowered mortals could have simply not learned, or not be corrupted enough to fall in one of the first two categories.

The Wiki has a good breakdown of how it works for Dreadlords, and that could hold true for all/most demons, but we just don't know enough to be sure. If it is a trait for all demons, then it stands to reason that Illidan's spirit is out there somewhere hoping to be summoned back.

It quite likely applies to all Demons, as Kanrethad Ebonlocke, rather than be killed is held banished by Jubeka Shadowbreaker after he's defeated in Black Temple in order to prevent his ever returning. We even resummon the same minion each time after they're killed rather than summon new, suggesting even they can't be truly defeated on this plane.

[Wildmoon]

Illidan didn't get the character of his calibre deserves in TBC.

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metzen confirmed on twitter that he wasnt referring to illidan showing up in cot and that he believes a spark of illidan is out there somewhere.

so now when people speculate about it you cant say "what if he was talking about the dungeon"

glad thats been cleared up.

Cleared up? People believed that he made his redemtion 10,000 years ago for things he did 10,000 years later? Are these the same people who complain that WoW lore is terrible?

[Zephire]

Illidan will be resurrected and eventually we'll help him take control over the burning legion. With BL as an ally we will conquer new worlds and all shall fear the might of the Azeroth Coalition (alliance + horde + burning legion)!

Maybe he will be found in the Emerald Dream?

[Deleted]

Illidan didn't get the character of his calibre deserves in TBC.

Dunno, his encounter served him well and was great difficulty and design wise during his time. Also, people tend to hype Illidan more than he actually deserves.

[Lord Pebbleton]

Because we have rezz spells? :P

I once waited to see what would happen. He despawned!

Because some people should never have died to begin with? Illidan was just killed off to please the Vanilla crowd sick of not recognizing the bosses they faced.

We can all agree some people should never have died. But the fact is, Illidan did die. Maybe this was a bad move from Blizzard part, but what's done, is done! I know them, and i know they will bring him back telling us something about the Twisting Nether. But that doesn't account for the fact they should've managed his story in a better way to begin with, and i'd rather see the game advancing.

[khalltusk]

i know that, but there are some people that anytime it comes up go "MAYBE IT WAS THE DUNGEON YOU CANT PROVE HE WASNT TALKIN BOUT THE DUNGEON"

now we can say it is proven

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preach on brother preach on!

I was not annoyed about having to kill him just the "lol he lost his mind" ¬_¬ oh rly so 10k years in jail didnt rot his brain but one defeat did? Least I know im not alone in thinking the lore was a train wreck

[Wildmoon]

Dunno, his encounter served him well and was great difficulty and design wise during his time. Also, people tend to hype Illidan more than he actually deserves.

People mean lore-wise. Illidan was an important and iconic character. At that time Blizzard didn't handle their in game lore this well. He didn't have a lot of build up to him and was not very active in TBC. For example Garrosh is being handled much better than Illidan. There are tons of quest surround his stories and a lot more in game dialogue. Old Bosses in WoW felt like they just wait there for us to kill.

[Rhlor]

Betrayer... in truth, it was I who was betrayed

yes, Illidan I love you!!!