All of the Tea Party hate from the establishment...

[Nakura Chambers]

The establishment, especially many members of MMO-Champion, hate the Tea Party; even though many of them don't actually know what it is. I'm not a member of the movement, but it seems incredibly hypocritical for a lot of these pro-establishment types to demonize them. At it's core, the Tea Party is a grassroots movement dedicated to holding politicians accountable to the people. The movement's core tenet is tax reform, not social conservatism, despite what the media would have you believe.

Regardless of whether or not you agree with their views, you should at least be glad that the American people are finally making a stand against corruption. Rather than demonize the Tea Party, why don't liberals just launch their own grassroots movement? I know plenty of Democrats who are upset with their corrupt, authoritarian and pro-war elected officials who don't represent them. I know they tried that with Occupy Wall Street, but it was a failure, because they didn't have any organization and they didn't even know why they were "protesting." Rather than demonizing the other side for having a strong grassroots movement, why not get up and actually do something so that your side does too?

[Catta]

Why should they organize a grassroots movement if they dont feel they need one? Just for the hell of it? I think most of your liberals are fully aware that they must vote for the Democrats simply to keep away the other side.

[vindicatorx]

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Regardless of whether or not you agree with their views, you should at least be glad that the American people are finally making a stand against corruption. Rather than demonize the Tea Party, why don't liberals just launch their own grassroots movement? I know they tried that with Occupy Wall Street, but it was a failure, because they didn't have any organization and they didn't even know why they were "protesting." Rather than demonizing the other side for having a strong grassroots movement, why not get up and actually do something so that your side does too?

The Tea party gets a lot of hate because of who is behind it and what their agenda is. Some of the richest guys in the US are backing them and the agenda the tea party has serves their own interests. You can read about them and the Tea Party agenda here http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/29/op...rich.html?_r=0
or http://theweek.com/article/index/206...-puppetmasters

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A party within a party makes no sense... The republicans should be able to ignore the idiots without breaking party lines.

[Nakura Chambers]

Though I do admit that there have been attempts by the social conservatives, with varying degrees of success, to hijack the Tea Party. Of course, there had been attempts by Hollywood nutjobs to hijack "Occupy Wall Street" as well.

[Catta]

A party within a party makes no sense... The republicans should be able to ignore the idiots without breaking party lines.

See, they cant do that. The Tea party has them by the balls if they want to have anything done. Its a good thing for them that the tea party universally wants to block the democrats no matter what or they would have even more control.

Its kinda like our O in the VKO. But because we have parties who work across its not nearly as bad.

[Nakura Chambers]

Why should they organize a grassroots movement if they dont feel they need one? Just for the hell of it? I think most of your liberals are fully aware that they must vote for the Democrats simply to keep away the other side.

Because Democrat politicians are just as corrupt, if not more so, than Republican politicians?

[Felya]

The original Boston tea party was about 'taxation without representation'. It is the hight of hypocrites for anyone calling them selfs the tea party, to use their representation in the government to shut it down. Their representatives do not stand against government corruption, they embody it.

[Nakura Chambers]

A party within a party makes no sense... The republicans should be able to ignore the idiots without breaking party lines.

I don't think you understand that American politics is, and always has been, like this. We have a two party system, which means that there are different factions in each party. Multiparty systems aren't much different, because the smaller parties simply have to form coalitions with their bigger partners and often times end up sacrificing many of their values in order to form a government.

[Felya]

Because Democrat politicians are just as corrupt, if not more so, than Republican politicians?

Yeah, after 6 years of total control republican of federal government, the tea party was born due to democrats being more corrupt. I'm more likely to believe it was a way to be republican, but pretend those 6 years was not your republican.

[Pitkanen]

Tea Party was only grassroots for a few months. Then it became the Heritage foundation's tool to RINO-out conservatives who are willing to compromise.
People don't like the Tea Party because the Tea Party causes political dysfunction by refusing to compromise. (see revenue increases)

The question is not "Whether the left should make it's own Tea Party", the question is IF the right will find a way to fund a moderate functional-government loving super-PAC that has the money to fight the Heritage foundations campaigning.

[Catta]

Because Democrat politicians are just as corrupt, if not more so, than Republican politicians?

Sure and the parties were at equal fault for the shutdown right?

[Nakura Chambers]

The original Boston tea party was about 'taxation without representation'. It is the hight of hypocrites for anyone calling them selfs the tea party, to use their representation in the government to shut it down. Their representatives do not stand against government corruption, they embody it.

"Taxation without representation" made a great slogan, but even if the colonists were given representation, they still would have revolted. Don't get me wrong, taxation was a major issue, but it was just one of many.

[Kujako]

The problem with the tea party is not what they say they stand for but that their candidates are hand picked by massive cooperate interests. In other words, what they say they stand for and what they do are not connected and thus those who vote for them are being conned.

[Felya]

I don't think you understand that American politics is, and always has been, like this. We have a two party system, which means that there are different factions in each party. Multiparty systems aren't much different, because the smaller parties simply have to form coalitions with their bigger partners and often times end up sacrificing many of their values in order to form a government.

No, it's a way to distance your self from a party that you caucus with, that pays your bills and you vote in cohesion with. It makes people think you are outside the system, when in reality you are reinforcing the system.

[Nakura Chambers]

Sure and the parties were at equal fault for the shutdown right?

You're changing the topic, I never mentioned the shutdown. Do you honestly believe that your side is so perfect that they couldn't possibly be corrupted?

[Felya]

"Taxation without representation" made a great slogan, but even if the colonists were given representation, they still would have revolted. Don't get me wrong, taxation was a major issue, but it was just one of many.

No, it was about the money going to England, instead of to help American infrastructure. The tea party treats our government as if they are British, which would be one of the better words they use to describe lower classes and their 'benefits'.

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You're changing the topic, I never mentioned the shutdown. Do you honestly believe that your side is so perfect that they couldn't possibly be corrupted?

Both sides are the same. Tea baggers are not part of them... Remember...

[Catta]

You're changing the topic, I never mentioned the shutdown. Do you honestly believe that your side is so perfect that they couldn't possibly be corrupted?

First of all, you fail to read between the lines.

Secondly - its not my "side". I think your democrats are mediocre. I think your republicans are god damn mental.

And yes i know, plenty of normal people are republicans - its those people you elect that concern me.

[Badpaladin]

A political party intent on shutting down the federal government and royally screwing over our economy in many ways deserves plenty of hate.

[Nakura Chambers]

No, it's a way to distance your self from a party that you caucus with, that pays your bills and you vote in cohesion with. It makes people think you are outside the system, when in reality you are reinforcing the system.

Yet borderline socialists like Dennis Kucinich and fascists like Dianne Feinstein aren't doing the same thing to the Democratic Party? Or the Blue Dog Coalition?

Or historical internal factions, like the Stalwarts, half-breeds, Dixiecrats, etc.?

You seem to think that the Republicans have always been some homogenous block, but that isn't the case. There are many factions in the party, like libertarians (Barry Goldwater, Ron Paul), social conservatives (Rick Perry, Rick Santorum), Tea Party (Herman Cain, Rand Paul), paleoconservatives (Pat Buchanan), neoconservatives (John McCain) and even liberals (Mitt Romney, Chris Christie).