All of the Tea Party hate from the establishment...

[madethisfor1post]

I've been given the impression that Somalia is a near-ideal libertarian state. Or if you're more of a religious-conservative type, Saudi Arabia should be right up your alley.

But but...where all the middle-aged, god-fearing white people at?

[Poopymonster]

But but...where all the middle-aged, god-fearing white people at?

Texas?

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[NYC17]

Texas?

/10char

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/loc...ly-4909381.php

Texas?

Texas...

[Cthulhu 2020]

"Don't trust the establishment, they have an agenda and only want to use you. Why should you trust me? Well because I'm anti establishment too. Let us establish an anti-establishment government!"

If you like that sentence, seek help. Immediately.

If you like it because you see the irony, then continue as normal.

[Crissi]

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/loc...ly-4909381.php

Texas?

Texas...

Strangely enough, what they are doing is pissing a LOT of people off. The only thing more sacred than guns in Texas is the Alamo

[Cthulhu 2020]

Strangely enough, what they are doing is pissing a LOT of people off. The only thing more sacred than guns in Texas is the Alamo

If they had to choose, I'm pretty sure they'd choose guns and just rebuild a replica of the Alamo made out of guns.

[NYC17]

Strangely enough, what they are doing is pissing a LOT of people off. The only thing more sacred than guns in Texas is the Alamo

It's not really that strange though. Selfishness overrides reason time and time again.

[BrerBear]

A delay? Considering big business either gets a waiver or a delay, but not the average citizen. And after the socialist healthcare cuts my hours down to 20 a week, we can expect the dream act to kick in and take my job all together. But I guess I'm just a rich white Republican. I must be racist to not want to be invaded by illegals and have my hours cut by 50%. It's not like I have a family to support or anything.

Alright, let's assume your story is true. You work for a shitty employer who has built his business model around a) not providing health care for his employees and b) not paying you enough to buy your own healthcare. This means that whenever you and your family have an accident or catastrophic medical event, the rest of us taxpayers end up having to pay for it.

As part of the taxpaying public paying for your medical bills, I suggest you point your bile at the employer putting you in this situation and not the people trying to fix it.

[Michonne]

Alright, let's assume your story is true. You work for a shitty employer who has built his business model around a) not providing health care for his employees and b) not paying you enough to buy your own healthcare. This means that whenever you and your family have an accident or catastrophic medical event, the rest of us taxpayers end up having to pay for it.

As part of the taxpaying public paying for your medical bills, I suggest you point your bile at the employer putting you in this situation and not the people trying to fix it.

Both A and B are common in almost every business in the United States that pays their employees below $10 an hour. But you're right, problem is with garbage employers that put profit over their own employees. It's always been that way and now we see companies like Apple not even paying American citizens because it's LEGAL to ship job overseas to bypass minimum wage. The answer however is not socialism. The answer is making these business practices illegal. But see the lobbyists in Washington wouldn't agree with such tactics so instead, the burden does end up on the taxpayer's shoulders. Why should BILLIONAIRES have to pay to run their own fucking company after all?

You must have me mistaken because I've never taken a hand out in my entire life. I've never been on welfare and every medical bill I have comes to my address with my name on it. All you Liberals that just LOVE big Government can sit here and lay in the bed you made, because lobbying is a HUGE part of that.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Both A and B are common in almost every business in the United States that pays their employees below $10 an hour. But you're right, problem is with garbage employers that put profit over their own employees. It's always been that way and now we see companies like Apple not even paying American citizens because it's LEGAL to ship job overseas to bypass minimum wage. The answer however is not socialism. The answer is making these business practices illegal. But see the lobbyists in Washington wouldn't agree with such tactics so instead, the burden does end up on the taxpayer's shoulders. Why should BILLIONAIRES have to pay to run their own fucking company after all?

You must have me mistaken because I've never taken a hand out in my entire life. I've never been on welfare and every medical bill I have comes to my address with my name on it. All you Liberals that just LOVE big Government can sit here and lay in the bed you made, because lobbying is a HUGE part of that.

You were doing SO WELL, and then you had to start spouting right wing anti liberal rhetoric and lost your credibility again.

[Yvaelle]

So as a moderator on this website, not only are you endorsing a particular political party over another, but it seems you're also a fortune teller. It must be nice to have an opinion, especially one based on a theory, without having to live within the same rules you force onto others. I'm sorry, but I've been a moderator on a forum and the best action is to usually try to stay neutral... especially when it comes to politics. This is very unprofessional and if I were the Admin here your "privilege" would be revoked.

A) Its unrealistic to expect moderators to not have personal opinions, on any forum.

B) The personal opinions of moderators are not representative of the site.

C) I'm not a moderator in the off-topic forums.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Both A and B are common in almost every business in the United States that pays their employees below $10 an hour. But you're right, problem is with garbage employers that put profit over their own employees. It's always been that way and now we see companies like Apple not even paying American citizens because it's LEGAL to ship job overseas to bypass minimum wage. The answer however is not socialism. The answer is making these business practices illegal. But see the lobbyists in Washington wouldn't agree with such tactics so instead, the burden does end up on the taxpayer's shoulders. Why should BILLIONAIRES have to pay to run their own fucking company after all?

You must have me mistaken because I've never taken a hand out in my entire life. I've never been on welfare and every medical bill I have comes to my address with my name on it. All you Liberals that just LOVE big Government can sit here and lay in the bed you made, because lobbying is a HUGE part of that.

More like you keep going with that anti Liberal mentality tea party folks love to use.

[Poopymonster]

If they had to choose, I'm pretty sure they'd choose guns and just rebuild a replica of the Alamo made out of guns.

Make sure they rebuild the basement of the Alamo too.

[Orbitus]

Sigh first attempt by house republicans was repeal. 2nd attempt was defund, 3rd attempt was to give exempt status for people who don't want it for one year like what the democrats gave big business and unions, you're listening to liberal head talking points.

As for black and minority loyalty to the democrats, here's something for you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n64OY6XaxSY

You do know that this whole video is pretty much false right? I mean sure the Democrats did found the KKK but the parties have effectively switched since they were founded. Republicans always tout that they were the party that freed the slaves because Lincoln was a Republican but he would be considered a Democrat with the current party affiliations.

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Fox is more center. I really don't watch them. Check out Alfonzo Rachel. That's the kind of people I keep up with.

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I've come to grips with this here on this site. Just hoping I can educate some people who come on here to have an independent mind, and maybe think for themselves instead of wanting .gov to do it for them.

Fox is center? Since when?

You have an independent mind? Could have fooled me with the close mindedness you have about anything liberal or Democratic.

[mvaliz]

1. Bush was not a conservative, he was a RINO. He never had full support of the republican party, or at least none of the Conservatives I know. So you must think Obama is awful to because he's kept most of Bush's policies intact.

Would you like me to link to you all the times Rush Limbaugh praised him? You know... the guy who COINED the term RINO?

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Bush was only a RINO when he left office. While he was in office, every conservative outlet bent over backwards defending him. Where was the massive conservative hatred of Bush during his presidency?

Basically that's conservative/Tea Party in a nutshell. Blame somebody else for your own failings in your belief.

They ONLY turned on him post-Obama election - and the only reason they did so was to try to save their failing face.

Kinda reminds me of that Nazi soldier who says "F*ck Hitler" in Saving Private Ryan, just so he could be let go. Where does he go? Right back to the Nazi Regime...

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This may be a conspiracy theory (considering the website that I'm on right now), but I do believe that WE THE PEOPLE created the states which in turn created the Federal Government. For some reason, Democrats and Liberals think it's the other way around. That we only exist to worship our Government. And of course anyone that doesn't agree with this insanity is labeled insane. FRINGE! CONSPIRACY THEORIST!

As an American citizen, I love handing over my FREEDOM and LIBERTY in the name of FALSE SECURITY! And I love entrusting corrupt politicians with a country that doesn't belong to them. But then again, when it comes to American Liberals, the ideals of small Government and personal liberty are a conspiracy theory, right?

No we don't. We believe that as long as we have the power to vote, the government works for us the citizens - not the other way around.

If it was, they wouldn't be spending billions of advertizing dollars on us to sway our vote, would they?

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Obama: "I will not negotiate"

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No, not "/end" - because you damn well know the context for it.

First off, this was a hostatge situation. You know the USA government policy on thiat

Secondly, there were no "negotiations" - because the Tea Party's line is "Remove Obamacare -period". That's not negotiation. That's not compromise. That's an outright demand.

The Tea Party tried to make Obama/Democrats look bad - but it flipped right in their face, because EVERYBODY (well, except you) can see that the Tea Party doesn't compromise. It didn't want to. It had a demand that it wanted to be met. Period.

Thirdly - and this is the shocker for you - Obamacare WAS THE COMPROMISE! Perhaps you got hit by that MIB mind-wipe wand, but Obamacare is sooooo much a shadow of its former original plan soley due to COMPROMISING with Republicans over issues. That's how this whole stupid "you will be fined if you don't sign up" came into effect, because the House Republicans shouted "NOOOO MORE TAXES ON RICH!!! FIND SOMEWHERE ELSE!" and there was nowhere else to go to fund it BUT the people...

[Shadowmelded]

The answer is making these business practices illegal.

All you Liberals that just LOVE big Government can sit here and lay in the bed you made, because lobbying is a HUGE part of that.

Until you find some semblance of internal consistency, no one is going to take you seriously (and rightly so)

As to the bolded; What side of the spectrum wants Citizens United overturned again?

[mvaliz]

Both A and B are common in almost every business in the United States that pays their employees below $10 an hour. But you're right, problem is with garbage employers that put profit over their own employees. It's always been that way and now we see companies like Apple not even paying American citizens because it's LEGAL to ship job overseas to bypass minimum wage. The answer however is not socialism. The answer is making these business practices illegal. But see the lobbyists in Washington wouldn't agree with such tactics so instead, the burden does end up on the taxpayer's shoulders. Why should BILLIONAIRES have to pay to run their own fucking company after all?

You must have me mistaken because I've never taken a hand out in my entire life. I've never been on welfare and every medical bill I have comes to my address with my name on it. All you Liberals that just LOVE big Government can sit here and lay in the bed you made, because lobbying is a HUGE part of that.

How can somebody say that and THEN go on to support the Tea Party!?

You do realize you're advocating required regulations, right? You know... the thing the Tea Party want's OUT of companies?

Michonne (By the way, change that name... you soil her existence by using that moniker), I guarantee you if things get to the point where we finally put a stop to this 50-cent outsourcing crap, the Tea Party will RAIL against the government full-bore for "Overreaching their powers into corporate affairs" like they always do...

[SirRobin]

Well darn, was hoping I would have a source to examine when I got back.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Well darn, was hoping I would have a source to examine when I got back.

At best you would have gotten Breitbart or Dailyfail or some ultra right wing pro-lobby blog.

[GennGreymane]

Alamo made of guns?

i would totally want to live there

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