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    Help me increase my Arms DPS

    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...andii/advanced

    So I recently came back to the game and started getting a few pieces of gear and I want to increase my arms DPS because I feel like I should be able to do more than 130k. That's what I average on most boss fights, around 190k on Galakras due to the AoE.

    My rotation follows a priority of:

    Outside CS:

    CS>MS>Overpower>Slam over 100 Rage

    Inside CS:

    Slam>MS>Overpower if MS on CD and no rage for Slam

    Execute Phase is the same except I replace Slam with Execute

    So what can I do to get more out of my DPS? Is there some reforging I need to do? I feel like I have very low crit. But I don't know how to remedy that.

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    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...Guide-Arms-PVE

    Until you get to the point where you are actually following guides, it's really a waste of time to reiterate material already covered, on a sticky readily viewable on the top of this forum, to personalize information for a person who is either unable or unwilling to spend 5 seconds looking.

    Warriors love helping other warriors. You don't want help as much as you want everyone to spoon feed you information.

    Do your own work first, come back with more specific questions, and we'll be glad to help.

    (PS, my own personal "I won't help this person since it's clearly pointless" is when they won't gem/enchant all their gear.)

    This isn't intended as being mean. Sometimes a slap in the face is needed however, and this is one such case. We have an amazing guide which will answer your questions, show what you need to improve, and how to gem/reforge/talent and do your rotation. Use it!

    PPS I guess this is the reason I was credited on that guide as "Darkfriend, for being a jerk."
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    I use to use a addon called macrotoolkit and the PVE macro here http://wowlazymacros.com/forums/topi...-ownage/page/1

    But I went fury after obtaining a nice offhand

    Anyways my dps output on certain fights in SoO was around 180k and over 220k on galakas
    And it's basically spam 1 button
    As long as it's cast sequence and not automated it's not against the end user agreement as botting .

    Other advice

    To help with rotation I would not use overpower as of 5.4 I would replace it with slam as a nuker during cs debuff if slam is not ready then use Op.

    Time your CDs pre pot before pull so you can reply with lust later on to boost dps
    Make a macro like
    /cast skull banner
    /cast recklessness
    /cast bloodbath

    To use on cd and save it within 3 mins of a lust to ensure its off cd .
    Other than that I would check your gems and reforges
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    Not sure if you guys are trolling. The rotation i said is the exact rotation in the arms guide. Slam over op, just like i stated? Herpa derpa? Read people.

    I stated inside cs my priority is slam>ms>op if no rage and ms is on cd.

    @Darkfriend, youre completely out of line. I follow the arms guide to a t. That is where i got my rotation.

    - - - Updated - - -

    I'm really actually laughing at the incompetence of those who replied.

    You linked me the Arms warrior guide on this site, and say that you're not willing to help until I start following those rotations.

    The arms guide explicitly states that inside CS you use Slam>MS>OP as last resort, and outisde of CS you use CS>MS>OP>and Slam over 100 rage.

    Let me quote my own opening post for you:

    My rotation follows a priority of:

    Outside CS:

    CS>MS>Overpower>Slam over 100 Rage

    Inside CS:

    Slam>MS>Overpower if MS on CD and no rage for Slam

    Execute Phase is the same except I replace Slam with Execute

    Like, are you literally just trolling? That's the exact same thing.

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    Last edited by Senen; 2013-10-27 at 10:04 AM.

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    incompetence is posting over and over you know the rotation and cant output the dps and asking for help then bashing those who do help .

    first of all supply log files so i can see what your actually doing rather than a list of proper ways .

    i am laughing at the fact your attitude is poor you ask for help and all you seem to do is criticize people who offer it . at this point i think posting a link to your armory , not suppplying any info makes you incompetent and calling people out for it ? i believe your the one trolling this thread at this point.
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    Arrogance is pretty high in this thread.
    Do you really expect to do decent dps with less than 510 ilvl? Warrior needs gear to shine...
    http://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/gear load your character, update, optimize.

    Btw, if you did read the arms guide, you wouldn't be gemming pure strength.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sourmonkey View Post
    incompetence is posting over and over you know the rotation and cant output the dps and asking for help then bashing those who do help .

    first of all supply log files so i can see what your actually doing rather than a list of proper ways .

    i am laughing at the fact your attitude is poor you ask for help and all you seem to do is criticize people who offer it . at this point i think posting a link to your armory , not suppplying any info makes you incompetent and calling people out for it ? i believe your the one trolling this thread at this point.
    Nice try, but you didn't help. You criticized my rotation and then linked me a guide showing exactly what I said that I do. You're inept.

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    No one has even said the most important thing we need to help - you need to post some logs.
    No one will be able to tell what you're doing wrong by looking at your armory and a basic rotation post.

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    The answer: You're bad.

    Blunt, true, probably going to make you mad. You aren't following the guide (as shown by your shitty gemming.) and you are bad (as shown by missing 2 sockets.)

    Why waste time? Read the guide, fix your shit, and than come ask.

    Borderline flaming. Don't fuel a fight that has already started.
    Last edited by Senen; 2013-10-27 at 10:17 AM.

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    Is there really a 1 button macro? both fury and arms? I have been lookin for one for ages.


    Quote Originally Posted by sourmonkey View Post
    I use to use a addon called macrotoolkit and the PVE macro here http://wowlazymacros.com/forums/topi...-ownage/page/1

    But I went fury after obtaining a nice offhand

    Anyways my dps output on certain fights in SoO was around 180k and over 220k on galakas
    And it's basically spam 1 button
    As long as it's cast sequence and not automated it's not against the end user agreement as botting .

    Other advice

    To help with rotation I would not use overpower as of 5.4 I would replace it with slam as a nuker during cs debuff if slam is not ready then use Op.

    Time your CDs pre pot before pull so you can reply with lust later on to boost dps
    Make a macro like
    /cast skull banner
    /cast recklessness
    /cast bloodbath

    To use on cd and save it within 3 mins of a lust to ensure its off cd .
    Other than that I would check your gems and reforges

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Guns View Post
    Nice try, but you didn't help. You criticized my rotation and then linked me a guide showing exactly what I said that I do. You're inept.
    what i linked is not even a guide , its a link to a thread for a 1 button arms macro to simply your priority to ensure your "rotation" is correctly executed. you not checking it out and assuming its a guide shows me a big part of your problem , you think your right and hate criticism your the type that thinks in his mind " hey i am always right about this and everyone else doesnt have a clue"
    Quote Originally Posted by SLOWLLY View Post
    Arrogance is pretty high in this thread.
    Btw, if you did read the arms guide, you wouldn't be gemming pure strength.
    this ^
    Quote Originally Posted by bigfoot1291 View Post
    No one has even said the most important thing we need to help - you need to post some logs.
    No one will be able to tell what you're doing wrong by looking at your armory and a basic rotation post.
    actually i mentioned it here
    Quote Originally Posted by sourmonkey View Post
    first of all supply log files so i can see what your actually doing rather than a list of proper ways .
    and now on to
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkfriend View Post
    The answer: You're bad.
    Blunt, true, probably going to make you mad. You aren't following the guide (as shown by your shitty gemming.) and you are bad (as shown by missing 2 sockets.)
    Why waste time? Read the guide, fix your shit, and than come ask.
    this guy gets it , he has in a single post told you your problem and how to fix it but learn to take critism when asking for help, research more argue less.
    and finally to answer this
    Quote Originally Posted by senturion View Post
    Is there really a 1 button macro? both fury and arms? I have been lookin for one for ages.
    seeing your armory link a 1 button fury macro would be bad , it would rage starve you and create chaos when it came time to use CS and smash buttons. its best suited for arms as its more priorty based and with your item level going arms would be a dps loss off the top.
    but non the less try it out, tell me how it works for ya

    final word to OP:
    i am not trying to be a wise guy or a smartass but to get better at the game it takes research not assumptions. just because you can link a proper rotation doesnt mean all the pieces still fit . you need correct enchants , gems and talents . ask mr robot will help optimise your gems,enchants etc... the arms guide on this site will help you as well . you got to want to fix the problem rather than troll a thread and bash those who are attempting to help you show some respect most of these guys that replied are doing way better content than you and i am sure they know what they are talking about .
    Last edited by sourmonkey; 2013-10-27 at 09:17 AM.

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    Ok, I'm going to close this one.

    @OP, there is an Arms guide that you should read to know more about how to optimize your gear, your UI, etc. You can also ask questions there, but be sure that your questions are not already answered in the first post.
    You can also use the Fix my dps thread if you have logs and want the community to look at them and help you improve your dps. Once again, you should make sure you have read the first post before asking for help, or you may receive bad feedback.

    To everyone: Calm down a little bit, please. Don't start calling out people or calling them trolls when you don't like what they say and don't fuel useless fights.

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