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    Quote Originally Posted by iadamson View Post
    Yes, it's possible.

    There are several examples in game of undead retaining their ability to wield the light.
    A few undead Paladin's exist in Kara, and most notably Lord Zelik in Naxx.

    Ghosts, which are undead have been often seen wielding the light.

    When Forsaken wield the light, it causes them pain, but that's bad ass.
    If a Paladin had such strong constitution to retain it's faith in undeath, and still choose to wield it under extreme pain, that's a truly dedicated Paladin.

    Self mutilation kinda reminds me of some religions that imprint scars on their body with symbols after sinning, it fits perfectly with the Forsaken. That darker, more taboo part of religion/ light.

    The Light causing pain or harm to the wielder, isn't a reason for them not to exist or not to be playable, but simply awesome lore to go along with the race/ class combo, sorta how Belfs have Blood Knights.
    not to mention all those revived paladins in scourgeholme(ice crown glacier)
    besides, there are plenty forsaken priests wielding the light

    it is funny how most people are so confident that it is impossible, although they were present in WotLK
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fleugen View Post
    Then I don't see why you didn't say that before, instead of bringing up raising previously-devoted Paladins, or insisting 'lore knights' were against you when we were only disproving your suggestion of raising previously-devouted Paladins. Shadow Paladins can just be Forsaken devoted to the Shadow, nothing more to it.
    I've been saying all along that ANYTHING is possible if the lore is written for it. Lore Knights get hung up on the idea that Paladin (gameplay) = Holy (Lore). The two are not mutually exclusive. I was merely demonstrating there are ways to make a Race/Class combo possible without breaking lore. Like Gnome Druids. Gameplay = Mechanical suit which simulates the animal and the spells/attacks. Lore = A small group of curious naturalist engineers on expedition in Anvilmar to study the Druids and their movements. Anything is possible. If you don't like how someone phrases it, tell them how it SHOULD be phrased, and not that it is impossible

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    Paladins are immune to the plague. The undead that are priests lore wise are only able to use shadow spec. Like others have said they only reason they have holy and disc spec are due to game play reasons.

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    fine, let's just have all classes for all races and say hell to the lore

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raybourne View Post
    fine, let's just have all classes for all races and say hell to the lore
    Now yer talking!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raybourne View Post
    fine, let's just have all classes for all races and say hell to the lore
    Lore can be created.

    It just has to be done well.

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    here you can find undead paladins

    http://www.wowhead.com/npc=30202#abilities

    Avenger's Shield
    Holy

    Hammer of Injustice
    Rank 4
    Holy

    Unholy Light
    Rank 13
    Holy

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    EPL is full of them post cata actually.

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    I feel they should rid of class restrictions altogether. Who cares, if gameplay is good? Leave the lore to the story and not mechanics. It would make the game a hell of a lot easier to balance. If we can justify jumping timelines and revisiting story from ten + years ago, we can justify every race playing every class. Fantasy is fantasy. The game is still standing and we have cow paladins. Some bitched about that, most people didn't give a rat's ass.

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    I hope so because horde paladins only having to choose blood elf or tauren is pretty meh when you have no DPS increasing racials from either race.
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    When they added Troll Warlocks and Druids I honestly thought Forsaken Paladins would have been added as well. You can't use the Holy magic burns undead theory because Forsaken priests exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mayhem008 View Post
    Paladins are immune to the plague. The undead that are priests lore wise are only able to use shadow spec. Like others have said they only reason they have holy and disc spec are due to game play reasons.
    Please look up the Crusader Bridenbrad questline in Icecrown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mayhem008 View Post
    Paladins are immune to the plague.
    This has only ever been true in Warcraft 3 and primarily to explain Death Knights being former Paladins. The Lich King's plague got better since then considering we've seen examples of infected Paladins and undead Paladins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arcaneshot View Post
    This has only ever been true in Warcraft 3 and primarily to explain Death Knights being former Paladins. The Lich King's plague got better since then considering we've seen examples of infected Paladins and undead Paladins.
    The Plague of Undeath from WC3 is also not the only way to die, and the Lich King is also not the only thing to reanimate corpses. /MINDBLOWN

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arikan View Post
    The Plague of Undeath from WC3 is also not the only way to die, and the Lich King is also not the only thing to reanimate corpses. /MINDBLOWN
    Could see this being added with the sylvanas hype going on right now.

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    Undead creatures using holy power exist in warcraft lore, people are giving examples in this thread all the time (sir zeliek, undead scarlet crusaders in tyrs hand, reanimated crusaders in icecrown and more). Even if lore states it hurts undead to use it, it still doesnt mean its impossible. Saying that after Lich Kings death (or sylvanas, since she died like 3 times already) forsakens ties with the undeath has loosen and more and more forsaken members found they new path in light wouldn't be a bigger lore bend than giving taurens sunwalkers that were created out of nothing. Were there any tauren paladins before sunwalkers? Does it make any sense that a sunwalker has spells like crusder strike (lol what? shouldnt they have a spell called Sunwalkers strike instead? O.o). Allowing forsaken paladins would require less lore butchering (or let's call it nicely - inventing) than allowing tauren paladins.

    TLR - in current state of wow undead paladins are unlikely. With a tiny bit of lore twisting/creating - they would make more sense than sunwalkers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by melzas View Post
    TLR - in current state of wow undead paladins are unlikely. With a tiny bit of lore twisting/creating - they would make more sense than sunwalkers.
    I love the "Dark Paladin" or "Shadow Paladin" idea. Saying the UD Pally uses Shadow magic the same way the UD Priest does to heal. Lore would be explained that they are not using the Light, and Gameplay mechanics would stay intact with the understanding that melee and spells are shadow, not Light.

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