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  1. #41
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    So I have to level 100 levels to finally get rid of the pet?

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    Come on talents....WHERE ARE THE REST

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    that camo shit was a joke guys

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    No more rotational abilities please, it's just more bloat and less damage to the other abilities as a mean to compensate overall dps.

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    hmmm how hard it can be to take another SS for other talents when its in front of u !!!! ffs

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    I am super excited about having a pet-less spec finally but this is the wrong way to do it. If a non BM hunter takes this they will lose out on their pet buffs/CC (unless they are going to overhaul pets to just be a dot which would just be retarded). So either the other two talents have to remove CC and increase damage or offer less damage to make this talent viable. IMO a better option would be to just make this a MM passive and give them some form of cc equivalent to pet CC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shootandkill View Post
    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO fuck petless specs... I could deal with MM but SV too? FUCK
    Don't use the talent then?
    Hi Sephurik

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    Quote Originally Posted by peggleftw View Post
    You're not required to take the talent.
    Because talents are always perfectly balanced, right?

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    Cmooooooon!

    Also, I wish people would stop saying "would of". :/

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    30% flat more damage as survival/MMS the other two talents have to be pretty damn good not to take that one tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7seti View Post
    Because talents are always perfectly balanced, right?

    usually pretty balanced, i don't think that single talent will put SV/MM so far ahead that BM isn't worth playing, and we don't even know what the other two options are yet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    Min-maxers shouldn't complain about options

    Do not forget that you lose your pet! I don't know how many % of damage it does not.

    And it will get balanced later, this is just a "general idea of what to expect at the moment".

    as mm/surv im sure it doesn't do as much as 20% of your dps i think. that talent still sounds pretty good for BM to be honest, your pet does a large % of your damage, and getting all those abilities??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shootandkill View Post
    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO fuck petless specs... I could deal with MM but SV too? FUCK
    so don't take this talent then ?

  14. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by CrippleshoT View Post
    30% flat more damage as survival/MMS the other two talents have to be pretty damn good not to take that one tbh
    well it's more like 15%, right now as survival a pet does about 15% of your damage, give or take a little bit.

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    I'd welcome that talent.

  16. #56
    inb4 petless spec is always the lowest DPS.

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    Numbers will be changed, this is an early build just demonstrating general ideas. Gosh, how can you still talk about exact numbers.....? ://

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    To be clear, for BM spec, that +70% (instead of +50%) is a flat 13.3333333~% pet dmg increase, or somewhere around 6-7% overall dmg increase.

    SO

    if for SV or MM the pet is 20% of your damage.
    and for BM its 50% of your damage.

    Assuming all 3 specs were perfectly equal to begin with

    Taking the talent is a 10% dmg gain for MM/SV
    Taking the talent is a 6-7% dmg increase for BM

    its VERY close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glurp View Post
    inb4 petless spec is always the lowest DPS.

    unless its a massive decrease in dps, i'd probably still take it. if its like a 2% dps loss taking the talent, i'd take it. im not a hardcore raider, that 2% doesn't matter that much to me. if its a 10% dps loss to take it, then i wont :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaydenkor View Post
    To be clear, for BM spec, that +70% (instead of +50%) is a flat 13.3333333~% pet dmg increase, or somewhere around 6-7% overall dmg increase.

    SO

    if for SV or MM the pet is 20% of your damage.
    and for BM its 50% of your damage.

    Assuming all 3 specs were perfectly equal to begin with

    Taking the talent is a 10% dmg gain for MM/SV
    Taking the talent is a 6-7% dmg increase for BM

    its VERY close.

    thats with current numbers though, of course it should be a dps gain, otherwise its pointless. if you're pet is doing more % of your damage than the talent gives, its pointless. we need to see if its a dps increase to the other two mysterious talents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaydenkor View Post
    To be clear, for BM spec, that +70% (instead of +50%) is a flat 13.3333333~% pet dmg increase, or somewhere around 6-7% overall dmg increase.

    SO

    if for SV or MM the pet is 20% of your damage.
    and for BM its 50% of your damage.

    Assuming all 3 specs were perfectly equal to begin with

    Taking the talent is a 10% dmg gain for MM/SV
    Taking the talent is a 6-7% dmg increase for BM

    its VERY close.
    Pretty sure BM will end up a lot higher because of talent amplifying your mastery.

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