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    Why the Double Standard on Circumcision?

    How come male circumcision is seen as acceptable in the US (as well as in other countries) but female circumcision is rightly looked down upon? I know male circumcision has a couple incredibly marginal benefits as well as drawbacks but both seem highly immoral to me. They should be entirely the decision of the child once he or she grows up. I know female circumcision is more brutal and unnecessary, biologically speaking. I just don't think the moral difference of forcing it onto a child, especially for religious reasons, is all that large. I know I will let me children decide for themselves (if I have any). When thinking about the religious causes of circumcision I get even more upset. I wouldn't be opposed to banning the use of it on children, even for religious reasons, except in various life or quality-of-life threatening circumstances. You're freedom of religion shouldn't give you the right to physically impress your beliefs onto your child. It's worse than tattooing your child. Circumcision is at worst mutilation and at best cosmetic in my opinion.

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    There are actually a growing amount of people speaking out against male circumcision. I know that more people are finding it to be inhumane, especially because circumcision removes sexual pleasure for men.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatOak View Post
    Circumcision is at worst mutilation and at best cosmetic in my opinion.
    I had it done for medical reasons, as in; it was either that or extreme pain all the time. Is that ok in your opinion then?
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    I had it done to me when I was baby, don't really care. Mom said she was told by the doctors(This was 1989 so take that into consideration) it was a good thing. I quote and Mom said "I cried watching them doing that to you."


    I'm not angry, the way people describe...the cock....before the circumcision sounds.... I dunno a Pita but again I'm a little bias. Religious reasons though? Yeah I don't buy it.
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    Tradition is the most reasonable reason I can think of.
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    Brace yourselves, ignorant feminists are coming.

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    WebMD does state that there are some benefits to circumcision: http://www.webmd.com/sexual-conditio...e/circumcision

    I'm a lady, so I can't speak on behalf of men on this point, but I have never met a single male who cared about being circumcised or not. My hubby is circumcised and he thinks its fine. I've had boyfriends in the past that were not and they didn't care either. My entire life, and I've never met anyone who actually gave a shit except the interwebz.

    From a girl's perspective, I'm quite partial to circumcised penises. They just look cleaner and for whatever reason don't seem to smell as bad. They look nicer overall IMO.
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    Both male and female circumcision should be banned. Male circumcision should be done only for medical reasons. Female circumcision never.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damsbo View Post
    I had it done for medical reasons, as in; it was either that or extreme pain all the time. Is that ok in your opinion then?
    Yes. There are obviously rare situations where it could help someone (phimosis), but for the most part my standard applies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damsbo View Post
    I had it done for medical reasons, as in; it was either that or extreme pain all the time. Is that ok in your opinion then?
    Same for me.

    Doing it for anything other than medical reasons is abhorrent and immoral. The parents religious or other beliefs should NOT be allowed to determine which parts of their child's body they can cut off or mutilate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bandcamp16 View Post
    There are actually a growing amount of people speaking out against male circumcision. I know that more people are finding it to be inhumane, especially because circumcision removes sexual pleasure for men.
    Iirc it was nearly banned in Germany
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damsbo View Post
    I had it done for medical reasons, as in; it was either that or extreme pain all the time. Is that ok in your opinion then?
    except in various life or quality-of-life threatening circumstances.
    I'm sure "relieving constant extreme pain" would qualify, so I don't think your sarcasm is warranted.

    *shrug* Male circumcision isn't as bad as female circumcision, which has let the various arguments in favor of it hold out longer.... at least, that's the biggest justification I can see, besides tradition and people either not wanting to change or not wanting to believe that the did or had something done to them that wasn't necessary and had negative side effects. (Picture being a parent who wanted and chose that for your son, then hearing arguments about how it's inhumane... many will take that personally and argue that circumcisions should continue, if only to justify their own decision.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natiry427 View Post
    WebMD does state that there are some benefits to circumcision: http://www.webmd.com/sexual-conditio...e/circumcision
    Which are based almost entirely off studies of dubious methodology and credibility. Basically no one except the USA buys the conclusions.

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    Why is circumcision acceptable?

    Because Jews, Muslims and Americans.

    I could go on about this.

    Basically the only group that appears to be making studies in favor of circumcision is the American Pediatrics Association.

    All the other studies ive read either finds no benefits and goes the diplomatic route of "Eh, its important to some people to have the right to cut their infant's genitals" or finds several things wrong with it. Last study i read showed statistics saying 2 children die from complications from circumcision every week in the US. That is 2 children a week - for a completely unnecessary cosmetic procedure performed on the genitals of infants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Root View Post
    Same for me.

    Doing it for anything other than medical reasons is abhorrent and immoral. The parents religious or other beliefs should NOT be allowed to determine which parts of their child's body they can cut off or mutilate.
    I'm not sure if you share this belief as well but in addition to what you said I'll suggest that it's fine for any consenting adult to do whatever he or she wants to his or her own body, including ending it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masark View Post
    Which are based almost entirely off studies of dubious methodology and credibility. Basically no one except the USA buys the conclusions.
    Yeah... I'm gonna trust the doctors on this one. Gl with your opinion, tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damsbo View Post
    I had it done for medical reasons, as in; it was either that or extreme pain all the time. Is that ok in your opinion then?
    Of course it is.

    I had an ingrown nail - i had it removed. Is that an argument supporting someone who wants to remove nails from babies so they dont get ingrown nails?

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    circumcision removes sexual pleasure for men? ha, im not sure if i believe this. anyway, make circumcision can have benefits, and only removes the foreskin, female circumcision is kinda like cutting off the head of your penis

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