You could be dead on. Blizzard is a pro at looking at other games and leaching off someone elses ideas, changing them around making it their own.
Take garrisons, it's a mix of SWTOR companions, Sims time management and farmville upkeep with multiple tweaks. A copy of other games mashed together with tweaks.
But removing flying from max level?
Thats one of the more stupidest moves I have seen blizzard make in 10 years. As if flying at max level somehow hindered the game during level.
All of this is basically a war between people who actually want to play a mmoRPG and those for whom WoW is just cheap entertainment. Guess who is who. Not terribly challenging to figure out. Blizzard has catered in the last years, arguably since end of TBC, to the cheap entertainment crowd at the game's expense. Maybe they got tired of cheapening the game experience, got their souls back from the devil, or just want to experiment with moving in a different direction this time around with WoD. Nobody knows.
What is for certain though, is that Afrasiabi mentioned the possibility of no flight for the whole expac intentionally, to gauge reactions from the playerbase.
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Let us continue, in tbc it was difficult to get flying that was actually useful, most of the time I used my ground mount because 60% sucked. Wrath made sure you couldn't fly till 77. Cata, let's not look at Cata, they have said Cata was the worst for several reasons. Mop was the first step in the other direction, you legit cannot fly until 90, no alt privilege either
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you sir, have summed up every argument on MMO champion ever, in an amazing way, I have never seen anyone else who didnt look at is as casuals and hardcores, but RPG players, and entertainment players.
/hug
Flying was never actually intended for the game. It is a bug similar to auto discovering flight paths for a couple of years.
Infracted
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Yes, but everything was more difficult to get in classic and TBC.
And don't get me wrong again. I preferred the MoP way over any other way. I think in Cata, that they should have only sold flying to 85 chars. I'm simply contesting the "they're restricting it now, so it means all of Blizzard/majority doesn't like it" by saying "they had to like the idea to implement it to begin with and then preserve it for multiple expansions.".
In the end, I'll stick with thinking them designing content for ground mounts should be the way they go, with flying only being sold at level cap. Not before (unless maybe you leveled at least 3 chars to 100, as an example), and not after, by making up some arbitrarily wall/restriction.
Finally a respectable argument from the other side that doesn't sound whiney, though I will offer this. think of WoD as a timeless isle/ GW2 thing. they are adding a multitude of things that flying would trivialize
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I don't disagree with that (I also honestly wish I could give flying to alts) But, I see why they are trying it, because WoD really is WoW 2.0, it has a lot of new things they are trying with endgame. That flying would ruin. I listed them before, basically they are real-time scenarios.
My brain tells me I should eat all those cookies in the jar. I conclude that I shouldn't. It should be easily distinguishable what is logical and what isn't. It is possible some at Blizz like, or liked flying, but for the sake of the game and it's mmo nature. That it's ok to remove it to an extent.
C'mon, are you just skipping the arguments you cant answer now? He can fly it in all the content that he bought it for, Blizzard did not sell futures contract, they sold a mount to be used right now right here. With your logic, I should get refund on all my susbscription fees if level cap is increased, because I paid them to play at max level in current content.
It's already been said that we will be able to fly in 6.1, they said it's coming through a quest chain and that's something that takes time to develop and not just something that they can throw together as decide in 2 days.
He's hinting at that this a bit of an experiment of maybe restricting flying even more or simply disallowing it in the expansion after WoD.
Personally, I don't mind at all, I think the game would be better without flying, but right now the game is designed around flying in such a way that they really can't remove it in a neat way. Places like the Timeless Isle and Isle of Thunder being no-fly zones works great. Both those islands are awesome and would have been shitty if we could fly there.
My addons:
Announce Interrupts: Announces in chat when you interrupt a spell.
Tol Barad Reminder: Reminds you to queue for Tol Barad by printing a message when the battle is approaching.
EasyLogger: Turns on /combatlog inside raid instances, and off outside.
Simple class resource bars: Paladin Rogue Shaman Monk Priest
Of course there is people to help do things, but I have the most fun, well HAD I don't so much anymore. Was that race, even if it was just a server race. that feeling when you are going as hard as you can, and downing the shit out of a raid boss and you're like woooo.
I am one of those people who couldn't give a crap about gear, I often give up peices to others (As long as my spot isnt filled because suddenly they are doing more dps. Which loot council doesn't realize is because they have better gear. *vents*)
Doesn't bother me. If this is true it's going to be funny seeing all the QQ threads about how much they hate WoW and Blizzard for doing it and that they're going to quit. People would quit WoW solely because they can't fly in a single area...lol, that's just a little silly. Really shows how much they're interested in WoW too. If this is all it takes for you to quit then WoW was never a game for you in the first place.
- "If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black" - Jo Bodin, BLM supporter
- "I got hairy legs that turn blonde in the sun. The kids used to come up and reach in the pool & rub my leg down so it was straight & watch the hair come back up again. So I learned about roaches, I learned about kids jumping on my lap, and I love kids jumping on my lap...” - Pedo Joe
I think we can Ignore cata. Cata was literally half-assed because they used all their time fixing old world to get new people. I really don't think heroics was the issue with cata, it was like a year of 4.0 mixed with the fact there was no 10 man (flex) mode.
with cata out of the way, they really arent so wishy washy.
That, I get. I do--honestly. I just don't find ground travel very engaging in a game where my monk has done her part to stop the Scourge, break the Twilight's Hammer, and participated in a revolution after doing her damnedest to protect her homeland from her own faction, and done most of that on dragonback (or, more recently, serpentback). I can see the value of ground travel while leveling, so flight feels like a 'hell yeah!' moment, but at level cap it becomes more jarring to immersion than suddenly swiping it away does (which can be justified as keeping a low profile, seeing as how 11/10 things on Draenor are out to kill you and you don't know the terrain yet).
But they haven't really brought up flight trivializing those events since Blizzcon, if they ever did. Since then they've gone on about the combat mechanics being the core of the gameplay (which, while not false, are hardly challenged by level 93 mobs) and Draenor feeling dangerous (which has the same pitfalls as before, at least during normal travel).
Be seeing you guys on Bloodsail Buccaneers NA!
I like the ability to use a flying mount, it's pretty cool. But if Blizz decide to take it away and make it only ground mounts then hey ho, doesn't make that big of a difference. I certainly won't be threatening to unsub/not buy the xpac. Are you people kidding?? How highly strung are you that you're willing to quit a game over something so small. "If you take away something that I enjoy in the game that has little to no baring on my overall ability to PVE/PVP I will quit so help me!"
Get over yourselves, jeez.