6.0 Warrior changes discussion thread

[Darkfriend]

Don't quote me on this, but I'm pretty sure more Warriors are happy that it's now % Weapon Damage rather than it being pure AP scaling. Why was it ever attack power over weapon damage? I've only been playing Warrior since mid-Cataclysm so I don't actually know the legit reasoning.

SMF v TG. SMF, since it has a flat percentage damage increase gains more from AP based attacks, EG DR, EX, HL.

[Eranthe]

flame and paranoid over...
... like a dumb ass.

i started playing in vanilla, i know all the changes that have happened to warriors over the years, it doesn't fucking matter how much damage execute does if the rotation is balanced around it. it will still add up to warriors' total damage being normal. if that damage is too low, they'll buff it. the only issue is how long it will take to be buffed.

also to the poster that said warriors are the most rollercoastery class: no they aren't, you've just paid more attention to warriors than other classes. every class and spec has periods where it's way too good or way too bad, but they inevitably get patched.

[Cyclonus-WOW]

You're probably right. It has been a rollercoaster but yeah, maybe worse for others.

to the poster that said warriors are the most rollercoastery class: no they aren't, you've just paid more attention to warriors than other classes. every class and spec has periods where it's way too good or way too bad, but they inevitably get patched.

In a Fit of Rage

Twas the night before Patching.
All through the Auction House,
The Warriors were Raging,
Frothing at the Mouth.

Changes are Coming!
Warriors will be great!
Our damage will be stunning!
We'll keep them at their gate!

We'll be the M.T.
We'll get all the loot
Or its a damn travesty
Warriors will be moot!

Then patch day hit
Warriors did rout
We rocked that sh*t
The rest started to pout

Then we got nerfed
Warriors started to cry
War tanks got turfed
The forums asked why

Nerf patch buff
Damage pvp survival
Cry huff and puff
Soon, another warrior revival.

[Archimtiros]

You're probably right. It has been a rollercoaster but yeah, maybe worse for others.

Poem

Fucking gold. Though good and mud don't really work.
I suggest:
Changes are Coming!
Warlocks will be crud!
Our damage will be stunning!
Warriors covered in blood!

(we can dream right? )

[Darkfriend]

You're probably right. It has been a rollercoaster but yeah, maybe worse for others.

Twas the night before Patching.
All through the Auction House,
The Warriors were Raging,
Frothing at the Mouth.

Changes are Coming!
Warriors will be good!
Our damage will be stunning!
Our enemies in the mud!

We'll be the M.T.
We'll get all the loot
Or its a damn travesty
Warriors will be moot!

Then patch day hit
Warriors did rout
We rocked that sh*t
The rest started to pout

Then we got nerfed
Warriors started to cry
War tanks got turfed
The forums asked why

Nerf patch buff
Damage pvp survival
Cry huff and puff
Soon, another warrior revival.

Good try, but the meter is offul. Try something like this,

Twas the night before patch day,
And all through my guild,
all the warriors were saddened,
by nerfs to their build

PVP had struck,
Had nerfed all the DEEPS,
No longer could we burst
through all of those HEEPS.

And forget about monsters,
They died super slow
Execute, OP?
A wet noodle, too low.

Defensive CDs,
That suck asses too
100-0,
Time to QQ, and Q.

But soon came the buffs,
We all did rejoice!
Topping the meters,
I made the right choice.

[Archimtiros]

stuff

Typical Dark, always trying to out do people and ends up over doing it!

What the fuck are HEEPS? Sounds like a venereal disease. Dark got the HEEPS!

[Darkfriend]

Typical Dark, always trying to out do people and ends up over doing it!

What the fuck are HEEPS? Sounds like a venereal disease. Dark got the HEEPS!

HPS noobcakez

[Archimtiros]

Fixed it up a bit for you Dark (though I still dunno wtf HEEPS is).

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Twas the night before patch day,
and all through my guild,
the Warriors were saddened,
by nerfs to their build.

PVP nerfs struck,
Brought down all our DEEPS.
No longer could we burst,
through all of those HEEPS.

And forget about monsters,
They died super slow.
Execute, OP?
A wet noodle, too low.

Our defensive cooldown,
It's terrible too.
I'm sad to be brown,
It's time to QQ!

But then came the patch,
Warriors did rejoice!
Topping the meters,
I made the right choice.

[Cyclonus-WOW]

Yeah, I posted this on the wow boards back in Cata I think. I didn't put a lot of work into it, I figured the lack of polish would be attributed to it looking like it was being said by a big tauren warrior who put all his points into strength, right? Glad to see you guys thought it was fun. I had a few pvp'ers who thought the stunning pun was the best part haha.

oh and i changed the good and mud, I agree.
great and gate sounded better to me.

[Darkfriend]

Twas the night before patch day,
and all through my guild,
the Warriors were saddened,
by nerfs to their build.

Down came the nerf bat
Brought down all our DEEPS.
No longer could we burst,
through all of those HEEPS.

And forget about monsters,
They died super slow.
Execute, OP?
A wet noodle, too low.

And forget about cooldowns
They don't help us through
We die far too easy
Whine, wail, QQ.

But then came the patch,
Warriors did rejoice!
Topping the meters,
I made the right choice.

[Cyclonus-WOW]

Perfect if you can somehow make it sound like there was a patch to nerf, and then another patch to buff. The rollercoaster is kinda my inspiration.

*edit*

I guess you did.

If poetry had a dps graph, I think mine would be a lot more spikey. lol

[Requiel]

Yeah, I posted this on the wow boards back in Cata I think. I didn't put a lot of work into it, I figured the lack of polish would be attributed to it looking like it was being said by a big tauren warrior who put all his points into strength, right? Glad to see you guys thought it was fun. I had a few pvp'ers who thought the stunning pun was the best part haha.

oh and i changed the good and mud, I agree.
great and gate sounded better to me.

You have no idea what you've just started, I hope you're happy.

[Archimtiros]

I think we just made Requiel quit skype again.

Twas the night before patch day,
and all through my guild,
the Warriors were saddened,
by nerfs to their build.

Down came the nerf bat,
Reduced all our DEEPS.
No longer could we burst,
through all of those HEEPS.

And forget about monsters,
They died super slow.
Execute, OP?
A wet noodle, too low.

Our defensive cooldown,
It's terrible too.
I'm sad to be brown,
It's time to QQ!

But then came the patch,
Warriors rejoice!
Topping the meters,
I made the right choice.

[Flaks]

Typical Dark, always trying to out do people and ends up over doing it!

What the fuck are HEEPS? Sounds like a venereal disease. Dark got the HEEPS!

No no, that's the Hivee.

[Kirbynator]

So, where can we find good warrior links to whine that blizz actually reads? .

Im on the bandwagon to make them change how nothing works for fury without massive crit focus

[Deleted]

it doesn't fucking matter how much damage execute does if the rotation is balanced around it.

This is plain wrong for both PvE and PvP, imho.

PvE: If the boss hits the tank for 2 damage every turn that's predictable and you can play either around that or along that, saving a lot of mana in the process. And given the right/wrong expansion that can be an important factor. If the boss hits your tank for so much that it's close to alive:death switching status you must start pumping heals into him no matter what - while stopcasting might help in that situation it depends on the boss swing timer and other fight mechanics. Ever bothered with patchwerk? That's a perfect example for this. Or Baleroc during decimation blade.

PvP: if i can bring you to 50% health with my toothpick, pop everything and you die in the next two globals that's not something everyone can play around at all times and that's why several classes/speccs are dreaded.

Consistent, predictable damage almost never kills you and your team in any situation, it's when something happens that you don't have control of (take Spoils when your healer gets the bomb back to back and you lack hybrids).

You might want to raise the "but i don't pvp, i don't care" flag but i'd call you ignorant. Having burst is just as important for raiding as it is for all other occassions. You can rest between waves of enemies, but you'll have to kill them ASAP when they spawn so they don't overwhelm you with their magic. That's not an unlikeable situation and argueable already implemented in boths dungeons and raids (ie: bladestorm on Garrosh mindcontrol).

So if they'd design our specc about ms, autoattack, deep wounds, slam and colossus all hitting for 1 and execute hitting for 9 it would probably be balanced in a nutshell but it's unhealable in a certain environments.

SMF v TG. SMF, since it has a flat percentage damage increase gains more from AP based attacks, EG DR, EX, HL.

AP based attacks also offered some unique playstyles back then like swapping from one twohander to two onehander or even using two grey but super quick dagger before rage normalisation. Good times!

[Juni]

I come back from being afk for a while, and see you guys are writing poems and shit. What the hell, guys......

[Pua]

I come back from being afk for a while, and see you guys are writing poems and shit. What the hell, guys......

Let me have a bash:

Ode to a Warrior

‘Twas the night before patching,
The warriors were still.
They lay in bed dreaming,
Of the mages they’ll kill.

But then the patch landed,
And warriors were sad.
“This isn’t just tuning,
The class has gone bad!”

So they took to the forums,
To make their point clear.
“Blizz, we need fixes,
Our voice you must hear!”

“What happened to shield-play,
Or Unrelenting Assault?
We can’t leap small herbs,
And it isn’t our fault!”

“What the fuck is with Death Wish,
Is it Fury or Arms?
It’s gone now completely?
You’re immune to its charms?”

“We’re still getting charge-jumped,
Colossus Smash stunk.
Where’s Retaliation?
Wait… It’s now on a monk?!”

“Those rogues, they be stealthing,
And we don’t have Rend.
They’ve reset the fight?
But our health’s at its end!”

And Blizz, they responded,
“We’re hearing your plea!
Your damage is fine,
Even in PvP!”

But warriors weren’t happy,
Not so easy ignored.
“It’s not just about damage!”
They loudly implored.

“It’s about depth of gameplay,
The skill ceiling and floor.
Just mindlessly deepsing,
Is a terrible bore.”

“Once we were hybrids,
With utility prime.
Now we’re just 3-minute cooldowns,
You’re vision’s a crime!”

But Blizz were unmoved,
“This is all our intent.
In six-second windows,
Shall your rage all be spent.”

“We know you liked stances,
Thought Overpower was cool.
But we are the experts,
We’re not being cruel!”

So warriors were saddened,
Depth just rubbed off the page.
And Blizz, they returned,
To overbuffing the mage.

[Requiel]

I come back from being afk for a while, and see you guys are writing poems and shit. What the hell, guys......

cyclonus has ruined everything

[jadedfuture]

I seriously hope the removal of Overpower doesn't kill Arms' fast-paced style. I just feel like it'd be too.. Slow without it.