Possibly no flying throughout entire xpac.

[Maneo]

I just came back from a break due to medical reasons and hop on Skype to tell my crew that I would be back in game tomorrow to find out they had all quit.

All 7 of em quit the game cause they said flight wasn't going to happen in WoD, that really sucks. Guess I won't be picking up the expansion or re subbing after all.

Yah it appears to be the case, my wife and I (along with 9 other people we know) quit for the same reason. Sorry that your people bailed on ya, at least you hadn't
already re activated your sub though.

It may return in 6.1 we just have to "wait and see" aka "If Blizz loses enough subs it will return"

[Dormie]

lol, people quitting over flight. Pathetically hilarious.

I just came back from a break due to medical reasons and hop on Skype to tell my crew that I would be back in game tomorrow to find out they had all quit.

All 7 of em quit the game cause they said flight wasn't going to happen in WoD, that really sucks. Guess I won't be picking up the expansion or re subbing after all.

[Fenir]

lol, people quitting over flight. Pathetically hilarious.

I am glad you find it funny I obviously don't. Out of the group of people I played with only 3 remain, and one of them said they were going to quit if it wasn't returned in 6.1. There goes my raid group

[Maneo]

I am glad you find it funny I obviously don't. Out of the group of people I played with only 3 remain, and one of them said they were going to quit if it wasn't returned in 6.1. There goes my raid group

If you are going to be a regular on the board your best bet would be to ignore him. Most of us do, even a fair number of his anti flight comrades.

[Luko]

I am glad you find it funny I obviously don't. Out of the group of people I played with only 3 remain, and one of them said they were going to quit if it wasn't returned in 6.1. There goes my raid group

Don't mind Brandon. He's been sort of a borderline sociopath in a lot of this thread. What he's actually saying is "Hawhawhaw people like things that are different that what I like and are willing to stop paying money for a game that doesn't have those things. How pathetic!!1!"

Just in case you needed a translation.

Anyway, few people I know have quit over flight too. They just can't justify logging in to a game where everything's going to take tons more time that it's taking in the current game. Nothing wrong with not paying for a product that doesn't give you what you want. Sorry to hear about your friends.

[Dormie]

I am glad you find it funny I obviously don't. Out of the group of people I played with only 3 remain, and one of them said they were going to quit if it wasn't returned in 6.1. There goes my raid group

I guess it's time to move on then.

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If you are going to be a regular on the board your best bet would be to ignore him. Most of us do, even a fair number of his anti flight comrades.

Listen to this guy. Ignoring people you disagree with ensures you're always correct.

[Fenir]

Don't mind Brandon. He's been sort of a borderline sociopath in a lot of this thread. What he's actually saying is "Hawhawhaw people like things that are different that what I like and are willing to stop paying money for a game that doesn't have those things. How pathetic!!1!"

Just in case you needed a translation.

Anyway, few people I know have quit over flight too. They just can't justify logging in to a game where everything's going to take tons more time that it's taking in the current game. Nothing wrong with not paying for a product that doesn't give you what you want. Sorry to hear about your friends.

Yah I may still try WoD I don't know. I wouldn't have quit over this no flight thing not that I am a fan, but having to find a new guild and realizing I will have to pug dungeons that is enough to make me want to quit.

A couple of the guys went over to Wildstar and they just sent me a Beta key. I am downloading the client now. Guess we will see how it goes.

[Deviant]

lol, people quitting over flight. Pathetically hilarious.

How is it pathetic? If I don't like a change to the game I quit unlike someone.

[Maneo]

Yah I may still try WoD I don't know. I wouldn't have quit over this no flight thing not that I am a fan, but having to find a new guild and realizing I will have to pug dungeons that is enough to make me want to quit.

A couple of the guys went over to Wildstar and they just sent me a Beta key. I am downloading the client now. Guess we will see how it goes.

Wildstar is fun. A couple things though if your friends didn't tell you.

1. It doesn't have flight travel really isn't a pain in the ass though at max level except for one zone.

2. The process you have to go through to get to be able to raid ... well it is kinda overwhelming but the tedious parts go fast and the rest of it is fun.

3. Dungeons are no joke

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How is it pathetic? If I don't like a change to the game I quit unlike someone.

It is pathetic because he doesn't think it is a big deal. He can't grasp why people don't think riding through an area for the 100th time on your way to a objective to be dismounted by a mob that poses no threat challenge or reward is not fun or compelling game play.

Kinda like how a redneck thinks physics is dumb cause he can't grasp it.

[Fenir]

Wildstar is fun. A couple things though if your friends didn't tell you.

1. It doesn't have flight travel really isn't a pain in the ass though at max level except for one zone.

2. The process you have to go through to get to be able to raid ... well it is kinda overwhelming but the tedious parts go fast and the rest of it is fun.

3. Dungeons are no joke

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It is pathetic because he doesn't think it is a big deal. He can't grasp why people don't think riding through an area for the 100th time on your way to a objective to be dismounted by a mob that poses no threat challenge or reward is not fun or compelling game play.

Kinda like how a redneck thinks physics is dumb cause he can't grasp it.

Thanks for the info. This download looks like it is going to take all night so I am just going to bed.

[Dormie]

It is pathetic because he doesn't think it is a big deal. He can't grasp why people don't think riding through an area for the 100th time on your way to a objective to be dismounted by a mob that poses no threat challenge or reward is not fun or compelling game play.

Kinda like how a redneck thinks physics is dumb cause he can't grasp it.

lol why are you running through packs of mobs?

[Deleted]

I find your lack of logic disturbing.
Educate yourself starting with this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sampling_(statistics)

Thanks but I prefer to believe what I was taught at my grad level statistics course at the university, rather than some random guy on WoW forums.

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The results overwhelming show that people think flying should be in the game as soon as people finish leveling. Just like it has been for the last 7 years. Nice try though, LOL

Pick up your dictionary, look up "maybe". Then read the second choice of the poll again. There is no option that says: "No flying at start, but yes right after leveling", the logical choice for people of that opinion would've been to pick "yes", although the choices are not very well drafted.

The poll overwhelmingly shows people don't want flying at start, and that even if half the undecideds decided they do in fact want flying later, the majority would still not want flying at any point of the xpac.

[cuafpr]

lol why are you running through packs of mobs?

b.c. they are between you and the node you want to mine... or one of the other 1,0000000000000 reasons?

and yeah the people that said MMO-C would be a biased sample are absolutely correct. The only way to get an accurate poll would be one of 2 ways, an offiicail email from blizzard to log into ur b.net account and vote and/or when you log into the game it prompts you to vote b4 you can do anything else... And only one vote per account, and let it run for a month to give the most people the chance to log in. Right now would probably be a bad time as well due to what i'd wager is a skewed active population in the game.

[Deleted]

On the other hand, me and my 26 imaginary friends will return because of no flying!

[Dominus89]

b.c. they are between you and the node you want to mine... or one of the other 1,0000000000000 reasons?

Then kill them, just like you had to do in vanilla.

[Anzaman]

Then kill them, just like you had to do in vanilla.

Or player could always try to go around them, if that's possible instead of just zerging through.

Alright, here is Player X - say hello to him. He has a Quest objective, where he would need to go to circle area and pick-up a relic for Ancient Priest Monobaba in Talador.



Alright, so we due his fast observation skills, he noticed that there's a area with high mob density. How is he going to get to the relic? Is it going to be rambo-style and oneshot everything with explosive arrows or it is going to be more sneaky way in?

A) Rambo-style:



So, you decided to pick choice A: Rambo-style. Player X choose geographically the fastest way due lowest amount of meters needed to move, but sadly you wanted to go through a area with high density of hostile mobs waiting for you.

After a short while, all mobs are dead and you successfully picked up the relic for Monobaba. Great job, and even earned few extra golds while completing the Quest as you managed to find a rare BoE item which just happened to be very wanted among Twink -population, congratulations.

B) Sneaky way:



So, you decided to pick choice B: Sneaky way. Player X choose a bit longer route as he's not that large fan of combat.

After a short while, you've reached your destination and sadly... even with your exceptionally good scouting skills, you bumped into two patrols on the way there, but you got your relic - it's time to head back to Monobaba. Great job, mission completed.


*The idea wasn't to try to fool you that you could completely skip the enemies in all situations, but if you think before you act, there's a possibility that alternative route may offer less resistance, but a few meters longer path.

[Mafic]

40.89% is a majority....lol

+1

People are so bad with math.

[Maneo]

Or player could always try to go around them, if that's possible instead of just zerging through.

Alright, here is Player X - say hello to him. He has a Quest objective, where he would need to go to circle area and pick-up a relic for Ancient Priest Monobaba in Talador.

Ok man bet lets look at the more likely results for max level content..

Alright, so we due his fast observation skills, he noticed that there's a area with high mob density. How is he going to get to the relic? Is it going to be rambo-style and oneshot everything with explosive arrows or it is going to be more sneaky way in?

A) Rambo-style:

So, you decided to pick choice A: Rambo-style. Player X choose geographically the fastest way due lowest amount of meters needed to move, but sadly you wanted to go through a area with high density of hostile mobs waiting for you.

After a short while, all mobs are dead and you successfully picked up the relic for Monobaba. Great job, and even earned few extra golds while completing the Quest as you managed to find a rare BoE item which just happened to be very wanted among Twink -population, congratulations.

You kill the mobs make about 50 silver, and that is it. While you were fighting someone ran past you and grabbed the Relic of Monobaba .. so you are forced to sit and wait until it respawns.

B) Sneaky way:


So, you decided to pick choice B: Sneaky way. Player X choose a bit longer route as he's not that large fan of combat.
After a short while, you've reached your destination and sadly... even with your exceptionally good scouting skills, you bumped into two patrols on the way there, but you got your relic - it's time to head back to Monobaba. Great job, mission completed.

You are riding your mount in what appears to be the less annoying path (notice I didn't say dangerous). Low an behold you get agro and stunned from a mob. While fighting it another player runs past you and grabs the relic. Now again forced to wait for it to respawn.

[Elim Garak]

How ground mounts work in MMOs

You drive from A to B
You encounter mobs on the way
You drive past them
They aggro
They run after you
You arrived at B but mobs are still aggroed
You drive past point B in hopes for mobs to let go.
While doing so you accidentally aggro another pack of mobs
You drive in circles around point B trying to shake them off.
You drive past guards hoping they will help you.
Finally they "evade" away
And you proceed to point B.
Right away you drive to a local FP and unlock it so you will NEVER EVER again drive on ground mount between A and B.

[Barkloud]

How ground mounts work in MMOs

You drive from A to B
You encounter mobs on the way
You drive past them
They aggro
They run after you
You arrived at B but mobs are still aggroed
You drive past point B in hopes for mobs to let go.
While doing so you accidentally aggro another pack of mobs
You drive in circles around point B trying to shake them off.
You drive past guards hoping they will help you.
Finally they "evade" away
And you proceed to point B.
Right away you drive to a local FP and unlock it so you will NEVER EVER again drive on ground mount between A and B.

Sounds like deeply rich and compelling gated gameplay.