r.i.p. alleria. 1997-2017. blizzard ruined alleria forever. blizz assassinated alleria's character and appearance.
i will never forgive you for this blizzard.
Well look at that. I'm actually shaking a bit because I am so outraged at the sheer level of ignorance,
bigotry, intolerance, act of violence toward their child, and the disowning of their child.
Admittedly, wishing to exhibit acts of violence towards the parents for their fucking stupidity solves
nothing, but goddammit if it won't make me feel a lot better. Although I'm sure there'd be quite a long
line of people who want to give these failures for parents a nice shot in the mouth.
The yelling and smacking is where I think the family is in the wrong here.
They have absolutely every right to not approve or support him if they so choose and he is 18 or older. I'd probably distance myself from my son if he was gay, and if he was 18 or older, he'd need to move out and get his own place. I wouldn't yell or become violent. He has the right to do what he wants with his life after he's 18. And I also have the right to distance myself from him like I would anyone else I don't want to associate with.
But the screaming, and more importantly, the smacking, is totally uncalled for. Histrionics never help anything.
I don't get why you guys can't just argue the action and just remove the whole religion thing. It's not like suddenly the only reason for homophobia is religion. There are TONS of people who just don't like gay folks, with out any excuses. Even with the overtone here, it's not needed for the argument at all cause the reason to hate does not have to exist only in that context. if that makes any sense.
"If you want to control people, if you want to feed them a pack of lies and dominate them, keep them ignorant. For me, literacy means freedom." - LaVar Burton.
r.i.p. alleria. 1997-2017. blizzard ruined alleria forever. blizz assassinated alleria's character and appearance.
i will never forgive you for this blizzard.
Someone can have a predilection for murder and one could argue that they have no choice, but that doesn't make it ok. Some actions are deemed destructive and thus unlawful in society. I understand morality (and especially legislation regarding morality) can be an extremely sticky subject, but your appeal implies that laws are all hypocritical as no one has choice. In regards to pedophilia, while some cultures don't have as much of a problem with it and I'll be the first person to admit that the age of consent is somewhat of an arbitrary line in the sand, that line exists so that we're not constantly scratching our heads over subjective interpretation on constant case by case basis things involving young and old sex. Consent will always be the deciding difference you are looking for.
Several studies ... (you can check them out via google) asking if people believed in facts (evolution, age of the earth) or bible (creation, young earth). The figures ranged from 44% to over 50%... 46% being from what I found to be from a number of professionally done polls (Gallup).
If 46% of a population can trust a <something> over that of science, reason and logic - that doesn't bode well when it comes to less 'real' things. (<-- that's an opinion for those having trouble with the difference).
How exactly was this data gathered without some level of interpretation? I doubt they polled 100,000 random people and asked if they were rational or not. It was probably worded "do you put more weight in science or faith", but a lot subjectivity is involved in that question actually. I don't think it's near as cut and dry as you are insisting it is
EDIT: Just saw your post above me. Believe it or not, you can chalk up a WHOLE lot of doubt on evolution in this country to how poorly it is taught. Not even joking. No one seems to bring up speciation in classrooms, just "we were monkeys and then neanderthals now us lol yep".
Just giving benefit of the doubt, a lot of skepticism is from how poorly science is presented.
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Ok I'll bite for you here.
There is no difference actually. Both things are situations a person is born into, and both things are not something you can erase from a person. But it's low hanging fruit to toss prejudicial bullshit about them at folks so it's just easier not to get into the literal parts about it, cause people just can't cope.
"If you want to control people, if you want to feed them a pack of lies and dominate them, keep them ignorant. For me, literacy means freedom." - LaVar Burton.
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