Teacher who seduced 13-year-old student with saucy yoga selfies facing jail time

[pickley]

I would like to know the difference between a 13 year old receiving gifts for sex from a 45 year old and a 20 year old receiving gifts for sex from a 45 year old. And then explain to me why one is a victim and the other is not. And if your only excuse is its the law then fine. And you would have to agree in countries where its not the law this interaction would be fine for you as well.

Can YOU tell us the difference?
Because the way you are writing this makes it sound like you are fine with it as long as its not technically illegal?

If the legal age didnt exist and people were trying to shag 10 year olds, I still wouldnt be ok with it.

[Kyr]

i specifically flipped through this thread to see how long it was until this clip was posted, I'm a little shocked that it was all the way on page 6

[Deleted]

And then explain to me why one is a victim and the other is not. And if your only excuse is its the law then fine. And you would have to agree in countries where its not the law this interaction would be fine for you as well.

Again, the issue is the double-standard a lot of people seem to have. Swap around the gender of them and see how many people say that it is perfectly fine.

Might be that for some guys here it would not be an issue. But that's not the point - but rather that making it seem like it's not an issue/a crime in general makes it harder for those who are negatively affected to actually find help and be taken seriously.

[Eleccybubb]

For 43 she looks pretty hot.

[Coconut]

Again, the issue is the double-standard a lot of people seem to have. Swap around the gender of them and see how many people say that it is perfectly fine.

Might be that for some guys here it would not be an issue. But that's not the point - but rather that making it seem like it's not an issue/a crime in general makes it harder for those who are negatively affected to actually find help and be taken seriously.

Maybe because some people care more about how the supposed victim is affected than some abstract, PC notion of equal treatment.

Also, a lot of people here seem to conflate the cutoff age for pedophilia, which is 13 (technically puberty) with the age of consent, which is anywhere between 12 and 21 world-wide and 14-18 in the western world, and the legal age to appear in porn, which is 18.

The article says the boy was 13, which can very well mean 13 and 11 months. In many European countries, such as Germany and Italy, this is very close to the age of consent (14), and seeing how it's a boy and boys are exposed to fewer risks from starting their sex lives young, people are naturally not that shocked. I understand that in some US states the age of consent is 18, which makes a 13 years old having sex look a lot worse, but this is an international forum, many people posting here are not subject to US law and don't need to treat it like it was objectively correct.

[Zogarth]

Maybe because some people care more about how the supposed victim is affected than some abstract, PC notion of equal treatment.

Also, a lot of people here seem to conflate the cutoff age for pedophilia, which is 13 (technically puberty) with the age of consent, which is anywhere between 12 and 21 world-wide and 14-18 in the western world, and the legal age to appear in porn, which is 18.

The article says the boy was 13, which can very well mean 13 and 11 months. In many European countries, such as Germany and Italy, this is very close to the age of consent (14), and seeing how it's a boy and boys are exposed to fewer risks from starting their sex lives young, people are naturally not that shocked. I understand that in some US states the age of consent is 18, which makes a 13 years old having sex look a lot worse, but this is an international forum, many people posting here are not subject to US law and don't need to treat it like it was objectively correct.

In Denmark where the age of consent is 15, I always feel weird as fuck when people talk about a 15-16 year old having sex with someone and people calling the one they had sex with a "damn pedo". Also, good on you for pointing out that pedophilia has to do with puberty and not age according to laws. I feel like with this, and many other cases, the main problem is not only the age (gotta say, 13 is too young), but the position of power between the 2 people.

[Mistame]

A kid can't consent - morally and legally. They can easily be tricked by adults. A 20 year old knows exactly why he/she is doing it.

The fact that you're advocating for having sex with minors is beyond fucked up.

The fact that you're calling what he said "advocating" for it is pretty fucked up.

[Coconut]

In Denmark where the age of consent is 15, I always feel weird as fuck when people talk about a 15-16 year old having sex with someone and people calling the one they had sex with a "damn pedo". Also, good on you for pointing out that pedophilia has to do with puberty and not age according to laws. I feel like with this, and many other cases, the main problem is not only the age (gotta say, 13 is too young), but the position of power between the 2 people.

I personally think an adult having sex with someone who hasn't finished high school is weird, and it gets weirder the larger the age gap is. But is it lynch mob or jail time weird? Not really, no.

This case should be judged based on the level of psychological manipulation rather than the sex itself. Did she use her authority and/or gifts to lure him into a sexual relationship he didn't understand or wasn't really into? Did she use the sex itself to manipulate him into some emotional attachment he wasn't ready for or wasn't in his interest? Then yeah, harsh punishment. If the kid is fine, slap on the wrist will do.

I mostly have a problem with people who don't really care about the boy's point of view, but are clamoring for her head in the name of equal treatment.

[vondevon]

This might be just me, but when I was a 13yo kid, I knew exactly which girl I liked and why I liked her and what I could've done if she liked me too. Regardless of what anyone gave me, told me and so on. If you didn't have a similar experience, that speaks very very bad about you....

yet in 5 years he can vote for our president if he was a US citizen.

But anyways what the woman did was wrong and illegal.

Both of you are completely missing the point. It isn't about the kid. It's about a 43-year-old adult being attracted to a 13-year-old child. Go look at a yearbook, look at what a 13-year-old person looks like. They are unmistakably children. @stomination 5 years, for a child, makes a huge difference in terms of development. You would clearly be able to distinguish a 10-year-old from a 15-year-old, and likewise a 13-year-old from an 18-year-old.

The problem is that all of you are trying to identify with this teenage boy, his raging hormones and sexual drive, and you feel this sick and misplaced jealousy. Personally I don't think a 13-year-old is mature enough to fully grasp the consequences of sex, in its entirety, and therefor probably shouldn't be having it. (It's one thing to know what condoms are and how they work, but it's another to decide in the moment to refrain from sex if you don't have one handy. I know plenty of adults who make this mistake still and now they have kids they didn't plan on.) However, this would be an entirely different issue if the child had sex with another child of a similar age.

You are completely ignoring the fact that the person he had a sexual relationship with was his 43-year-old teacher.

A 13-year-old could be easily manipulated by a 17-year-old, let alone someone 30 years his senior. Then you add on top of that, the fact that this was a teacher and an authority figure in his life... This woman is a sexual predator.

[Dangg]

Lucky that she isn't a old, fat, bald guy. Would face 500 years in prison.

http://www.statesville.com/townnews/...9cff07ce3.html

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Not directly on topic, but how is it that defense of infancy in the USA is 11-13, yet age of consent is 16-18?
Doesn't make any sense that they are so far apart.

[Tommi]

i specifically flipped through this thread to see how long it was until this clip was posted, I'm a little shocked that it was all the way on page 6

Same. I was thinking " someones GOT to have posted it by page 3 or 4.... Nope.

[Shinrael]

Both of you are completely missing the point. It isn't about the kid. It's about a 43-year-old adult being attracted to a 13-year-old child. Go look at a yearbook, look at what a 13-year-old person looks like. They are unmistakably children. @stomination 5 years, for a child, makes a huge difference in terms of development. You would clearly be able to distinguish a 10-year-old from a 15-year-old, and likewise a 13-year-old from an 18-year-old.

The problem is that all of you are trying to identify with this teenage boy, his raging hormones and sexual drive, and you feel this sick and misplaced jealousy. Personally I don't think a 13-year-old is mature enough to fully grasp the consequences of sex, in its entirety, and therefor probably shouldn't be having it. (It's one thing to know what condoms are and how they work, but it's another to decide in the moment to refrain from sex if you don't have one handy. I know plenty of adults who make this mistake still and now they have kids they didn't plan on.) However, this would be an entirely different issue if the child had sex with another child of a similar age.

You are completely ignoring the fact that the person he had a sexual relationship with was his 43-year-old teacher.

A 13-year-old could be easily manipulated by a 17-year-old, let alone someone 30 years his senior. Then you add on top of that, the fact that this was a teacher and an authority figure in his life... This woman is a sexual predator.

Really? I am feeling "jealousy" now? Look, I've never had it for older women, even if they were just 1-2 years older than me... If I were in his shoes, no matter what that 43yo teacher gave or offered me, I wouldn't have agreed to have sex with her. BUT, if that's what the boy is into, why not just let him?

And about the 43yo teacher. There are all kinds of people out there. We are all different and have different tastes. Not trying to defend phedophilia, but I guarantee you, the boy knew what he was doing and obviously enjoyed it as well. If he didn't know what he was doing, then that's fine. We already have plenty enough stupid people on this planet...

[Deleted]

No real crime happened, I would gladly be seduced at 13

[Medusa Cascade]

She should have stuck to shota

[lonely zergling]

The article says the boy was 13, which can very well mean 13 and 11 months. In many European countries, such as Germany and Italy, this is very close to the age of consent (14), and seeing how it's a boy and boys are exposed to fewer risks from starting their sex lives young, people are naturally not that shocked. I understand that in some US states the age of consent is 18, which makes a 13 years old having sex look a lot worse, but this is an international forum, many people posting here are not subject to US law and don't need to treat it like it was objectively correct.

Uhm, I would be carefull.. it isnt that simple. In Germany for example age of consent is 14 but it would still be illegal for the 43 year old teacher to have sex with him (even if he was infact 14 at the time).

[vondevon]

And about the 43yo teacher. There are all kinds of people out there. We are all different and have different tastes. Not trying to defend phedophilia, but I guarantee you, the boy knew what he was doing and obviously enjoyed it as well. If he didn't know what he was doing, then that's fine. We already have plenty enough stupid people on this planet...

"Not trying to defend pedophilia" *goes on to defend pedophilia bc the child "enjoyed it"*

[Mormolyce]

Is "purple muscle car" what the kids are calling it these days?

Cops also found receipts for presents which Albini bought for the youngster, including the phone, an Xbox, bracelet and clothes.

I would've given my left nut to get groomed by this woman when I was 13.

[Deleted]

I can understand many different sexual orientations and fetishes, but pedophily makes me cringe, even more when it's about boys than girls. How can a grown woman find mini penises attractive?

[Mellrod]

we had sex ed classes, we knew at 12 if we didn't use a condom yeh you could get pregnant, is he from a part of the world where you can't learn or something.

Just because a kid read something in a book and saw diagrams as part of a class period doesn't mean they understand the full gravity of using protection and of the consequences if they don't.

No, that would acquire maturity, and level headed decision making that isn't fueled by raging pubescent hormones, otherwise we wouldn't have tons of teenage pregnancies despite Sex Ed. The mind is still developing in teen years, especially in the decision-making and judgement areas. Puberty is a confusing, emotional, impulsive, vulnerable period for most people. The adult in this situation is more easily able to manipulate a 12 or 13 year old kid with a horny pubescent mind, than vice versa.

TL;DR:
I doubt many kids are like "Oh boy! Now that i sat through that awkward lecture, I better buy condoms responsibly and practice safe sex." Especially when they've got the other gender on their mind and are full of rebellious angst and raging hormones.

A kid during puberty is more easily manipulated than a 43yo adult regardless of gender. Pedophilia is wrong no matter how you slice it.

[Shinrael]

"Not trying to defend pedophilia" *goes on to defend pedophilia bc the child "enjoyed it"*

Abusing/taking advantage of a child is one thing, that "child" knowing exactly what he/she is doing... completely different thing. Can't call the latter phedophilia, sorry.