Fix WPvP Before Argus Please

[Kagthul]

The damage doesn't more then double in a 40 item level window.

iLevel stat gains are exponential.

DPS has trippled or more in less than an 80 iLevel window.

Math hard.

[Alvito]

iLevel stat gains are exponential.

DPS has trippled or more in less than an 80 iLevel window.

Math hard.

Clearly. So is sniffing out bull shit when it is right in front of you. There are also many other factors in the rapid damage gains besides just item level, either way the person I was replying to is exaggerating in an effort to make a point.

[Kagthul]

So, WPvP = cancer because a Rogue almost killed a tank. Better if the tank was simply unkillable by similarly geared DPS?

That's quite the Strawman you're building there. You know, since i never said that.

The point of WPvP isn't for it to be perfectly balanced, but with a spec that can potentially kill tanks, we're closer to balance than before. A tank kills every other spec with no effort or skill, is that what you prefer?

Again, you're inventing things i never said.

I said World PvP was cancer.

That was a blanket statement.

Because keep in mind, that DPS spec that can potentially kill tanks? He outright kills every other DPS spec in seconds. That's just as cancerous. As is a tank who will literally never die.

You might want to buy some stock in a straw company, with all those strawmen you're constructing.

[Appelgren]

Make the entire zone neutral and the problem is solved.

[Adlian]

Dont expect WPVP to be fixed this expansion, its beyond fixing at this point.

[Saverem]

They won't be.

Spoke to Holinka about the issue not long before he quit working on WoW, and although it wasn't said outright he basically implied that the PvP devs are aware that WPvP is a major issue but their hands are tied by the PvE devs because they don't wanna affect "muh world quests".

I still don't see what they couldn't just give a hidden Resilience stat to players while out in the world so that people can still do their max damage to mobs but other players are hit for X% lower damage.

Such a simple fix.

[Mysterymask]

Isn't the point of WPVP to be kinda inherently broken...I mean really its never a fair fight with wpvp..

[Torbjorn]

PvP is cancer. In Warcraft and any other games. People who have fun one shotting people have serious mental problem in game and in real life I think. People who play PvP are cancer. Period.

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[Swalload]

Argus is supposed to be a zone the size of the entire Broken Isle, with no flying! It would be great for WPvP if WPvP wasn't totally broken.

I don't mind winning 1v4 on my tank, shit looks legit son.

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PvP is cancer. In Warcraft and any other games. People who have fun one shotting people have serious mental problem in game and in real life I think. People who play PvP are cancer. Period.

You sound like someone with absolutely no mental problem, great!
I just read your name, you are definitely one of the worst human being I have met in this lifetime.

[Teri]

The world is tuned for PvE, that's why they added templates to the places with actual pvp Ratings.

PvP servers bring their risks and people knew that since day 1 they roll there, same for FFA pvp WQs.

[Matthias]

I don't mind winning 1v4 on my tank, shit looks legit son.

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You sound like someone with absolutely no mental problem, great!
I just read your name, you are definitely one of the worst human being I have met in this lifetime.

I actually hate the fact that I run around in my tank spec. Feels cowardly especially since I'm used to playing Arms in PvP, but I get blown up in seconds. My main motivation to get PvP gear was really so I could defend myself in the outside world.

[Swalload]

I actually hate the fact that I run around in my tank spec. Feels cowardly especially since I'm used to playing Arms in PvP, but I get blown up in seconds. My main motivation to get PvP gear was really so I could defend myself in the outside world.

But PvP gear does nothing more than the PvE gear, I don't understand what you're trying to accomplish.

[Furious Spoon]

They really need to introduce some form of resilience again, the current state of WPVP is awful due to trying to rely on stat templates for balance instead of balancing abilities in pvp.

[Lazuli]

Clearly. So is sniffing out bull shit when it is right in front of you. There are also many other factors in the rapid damage gains besides just item level, either way the person I was replying to is exaggerating in an effort to make a point.

How can you even be so ignorant? I smell an obvious troll or you clearly have never even played on a pvp server which makes anything you say in this thread irrelevant like everything so far has been from you.

The person you were replying to is not even exaggerating. Would you like to visit my server and I'll 1shot you real quick?

[Alvito]

How can you even be so ignorant? I smell an obvious troll or you clearly have never even played on a pvp server which makes anything you say in this thread irrelevant like everything so far has been from you.

The person you were replying to is not even exaggerating. Would you like to visit my server and I'll 1shot you real quick?

Good luck with that.

[Deleted]

Too late to fix wpvp now. Way too late. Maybe next expansion. Personally, I moved to a pve server. With wpvp as a 2 shotting pair of clown shoes, there is no point in pvp servers anymore.

[Marvy]

When rated and instanced PvP is balanced around legendary bonuses being inactive, there is absolutely no way it will ever be balanced in World PvP when the bonuses come into play.

[Kagthul]

Too late to fix wpvp now. Way too late. Maybe next expansion. Personally, I moved to a pve server. With wpvp as a 2 shotting pair of clown shoes, there is no point in pvp servers anymore.

As someone who has been on a PvP server since the vanilla beta, if it wouldn't be rewarding Blizzard by giving them money, i'd have already moved all 5 characters off of a PvP server.

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There are also many other factors in the rapid damage gains besides just item level, .

... No there aren't.

The only other factor is the artifact traits.

Thats literally it.

[Alvito]

As someone who has been on a PvP server since the vanilla beta, if it wouldn't be rewarding Blizzard by giving them money, i'd have already moved all 5 characters off of a PvP server.

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... No there aren't.

The only other factor is the artifact traits.

Thats literally it.

Weapon buffs beyond item level is a big boost on it's own, trinket and other procs and the extreme shortening of fights.

[Flaks]

The damage doesn't more then double in a 40 item level window.

No, it triples. Just look at how dps in raids has scaled this expansion.