I think they should get rid of the free pistol shot procs tbh. In fact, that's one of the reasons why they nerfed AR.
RTB did change your rotation when the single buffs were strong in beta.
Now, it doesn't matter, because outside of Broadsides your rotation is so similar. And even with two buff rolls your rotation is still very similar. That is why current iteration of RTB is very boring.
At this point if they were to just use Broadside, True Bearing and Shark Infested waters and remove other buffs no one would notice the other buffs missing.
What made WotLK Combat appealing to many people was because Blade Flurry was actually strong along with Kspree and the consistent DPS with all the neat utility the spec had (eg Improved Sprint breaking roots).
I thought assa had more rng than outlaw since everyone plays SnD which removes the rng aspect of outlaw. Outlaw is horrible tuned either ways, they should just remake combat and give them fucking KS back (such a waste of such a cool cd)
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actually no, RTB in it's current form is pretty much the definition of "good" rng
there's a different outcome every time, but their relative strength is similar unless you roll 5 which is just a perk, and all of them affect how you play at least a little bit.
poison bomb however is just obnoxious unbearable RNG
if you think RTB currently is bad RNG, then i dont know what to tell you, with adrush guaranteeing double buffs every time, it's reliably consistent but always different
assa is way more RNG centric atm than outlaw
i mean the spec itself numbers tuning wise is utter garbage, but it's not because of RTB
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And what if in that 5 roll you don't get TB? Face it, the changes to rtb for 7.2.5 was a failure. Why do you think most outlaw rogues are going SnD now, even with the loss of RtB? It's still an RNG mechanic, and it was only fun in Legion pre-patch when the buffs were relatively close to each other, and when you could actually still fish for buffs depending on the situation.
ofc it's an rng mechanic, it's meant to be one, you're acting like other classes dont have RNG mechanics
even a non TB 5 roll is better than any 2roll
TB is not as mandatory as it used to be since half of it is baseline
also, do you actually believe people are going SND just cause it's not RNG? no they're going SND cos it performs better on those fights
I just find the number of buffs with the RnG from RtB dull, RtB isnt a bad idea it just need to be improved on. For example
1.remove the RnG of how many buffs you get and which ones you get
2.reduce the number of buffs you get lets say 3 buffs instead of 6
3.as a rogue you don't play fair so allow the choice of your buffs/dice lets say 6 different dice to choose.
4.give the player choice of buffs/dice that suits there playstyle (have like normal dice and cursed dice with have a high risk high reward or are harder to maintain - something like priest's StM but not as extreme)
The class ideia is nice.
Now is just wait 8.0.
It is currently the worst form of RNG, because it is RNG for sake of RNG but it doesn't help the spec perform.
This is why the RNG infested early version of Legion Sub was tossed aside for the new improved Legion Sub.
Outlaw needs to ditch many RNG elements to return to parity IMVHO.
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A five currently on live is weaker than a six buff roll earlier in the expansion.
There is no reason to penalize the spec anymore due to RNG.
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I agree it is a failure, because the spec is now RNG infested AND boring.
At least RTB in beta had strong single buff in their own way. When you rolled Buried Treasure in beta you felt like you had a mini AR. Now? It is simply not noticeable to even the most hardcore of players.
Worst part of it all was they nerfed AR to make free pistol shot procs viable but again that makes the spec more gimped if it doesn't proc Blunderbuss.
Greed is the only way the spec can bypass armor and that is also RNG.
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I will never consider RTB part of a rotation. As far as I am concerned you ignore it 99% of the time unless it is TB, or Broadsides. With Poison procs you actually have to pay attention.