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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    To be fair, Steve Ditko drew early Spider-Man like humans had square heads and no bones in their bodies. I was reading 60s Marvel and there were even people joking about it in the letters section IIRC.

    Though that was probably a stylised artistic choice, rather than straight up limitations like in Liefeld's case...
    It's probable that Liefeld did things like copy ditko's "stylized" (jury's out on that one) characters and art.
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astalnar View Post
    Literally from the same article:
    Hey mr conservative, the alt right term was coined by spencer. A literal Neo Nazi
    Forgive my english, as i'm not a native speaker



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    Oh boohoo free market exists. What the author is doing is irrelevant. They shouldn't even have to justify themselves.

    Captain America was already the Authoritarian hero. The SJWs had to turn him into the bad guy and make a new one just to sate their cognitive dissonance.

    All these mentally ill virtue signalers that pretend to care about comic books spend least amount of money on the actual product. They're culture freaks. Socialists.

    Socialism is stifling free market by dictating it through mob mentality. Rather than letting consumers decide if a product is worth buying, they're deciding for them. They're also telling creators they're not allowed to create or profit off anything. "You can sell this, it doesn't fit my narrative!"

    Innovation crash is coming closer and closer thanks to rampant monopolistic anti-intellectualism. Soon people will be self-proclaiming themselves as gods and damning anyone that opposes them. "If you won't use my <insert product> then noone can!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astalnar View Post
    You can read the rest of the article at: https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/vox-da...ge-sjw-marvel/


    So, what do you think about this? Yay or nay? Something in between? Are the creators of this new comic on to something, or are they just going to crash and burn? For some time now people were complaining over the state of Marvel & DC Comics. But is that enough to get the frustrated readers to check some new titles or do you think people just want their old favourites back? And most important question, is this a swan song for the dying comics industry, or is it a precursor to the renaissance of the comics industry.

    What do you think?
    Fuck these people.

    Democrats may think they hate the alt-right. But, I assure you your hatred pales in comparison to that of real Conservatives and Libertarians. Why in the actual fuck do they call themselves "right", when nothing they want is a thing of the right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImpTaimer View Post
    All these mentally ill virtue signalers that pretend to care about comic books spend least amount of money on the actual product. They're culture freaks. Socialists.

    Socialism is stifling free market by dictating it through mob mentality. Rather than letting consumers decide if a product is worth buying, they're deciding for them. They're also telling creators they're not allowed to create or profit off anything. "You can sell this, it doesn't fit my narrative!"

    Innovation crash is coming closer and closer thanks to rampant monopolistic anti-intellectualism. Soon people will be self-proclaiming themselves as gods and damning anyone that opposes them. "If you won't use my <insert product> then noone can!"
    save it for your personal blog, holy shit.

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    "politics-free", "The stars and bars are an unmistakable tweak to the SJWs who get triggered at the very thought of a Confederate flag" And apparently she fights against "illegals". Do conservatives have a strong independent female super hero that is not a rape victim?
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    seems stupid to me.

    why not have a comic with no identity politics instead?

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    Marvel, still yet to make a film in their 'cinematic universe' based on a female hero, are Social Justice Warriors?

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    When did Marvel and DC become "SJW"? What does "SJW" even mean anymore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astalnar View Post
    What's racist about it?
    Well there is the whole white guy who exists to beat up the violent illegal immigrants and deport them which the police "don't want to do". Like they seriously show a non-specific brown guy attacking a young white girl only for her to be saved by a heroic white guy, all while selling it into xenophobic hysteria. That's such an old tool for racist propaganda you can find it racist films against black people.

    Or maybe it's the woman gladly covering herself with the confederate flag, which was created by a group of people literally willing to kill over their "right" to own black people. Or maybe it's the fact that all the "heroes" are white and cover themselves with flags of European power and the only people of color shown are a rapey Latino thug and an Asian woman who is pictured in a sexually predatory manner. In general probably try to prevent the only non-white people in your work from being racist stereotypes.
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    This is some cringe tier shit.

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    "Cleaning up the streets one illegal at a time."

    I actually snorted

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    "You can change my favorite superhero into a little kid, a senior citizen, an animal, an alien from another planet, or kill him off entirely, BUT FUCK YOU IF YOU MAKE HIM EITHER A MINORITY OR A WOMAN, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF COMIC BOOK READERS ARE NOW DISENFRANCHISED!"

  14. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by TheFuse View Post
    When did Marvel and DC become "SJW"? What does "SJW" even mean anymore?
    It gets used for anything these days that isn't right leaning. They are probably triggered because the woman(don't know who it was) taking over "Thor" for a bit and Sam Wilson taking over captain America's spot.

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    Day is one of the godfathers of the much-maligned Alt-Right. But those who try to call him a white nationalist or supremacist fail miserably because he is only part white, claiming Native American and Mexican heritage and speaking out vocally against any form of racial supremacism.

    ...

    "... The truth is that I am a Christian who is committed to the truth, no matter how uncomfortable it makes me or anyone else. I am also an American Indian and a committed Western civilizationist," he said. "I do consider myself to be Alternative Right, in the sense laid out in the Sixteen Points of the Alternative Right, now translated into 27 languages.
    The 16 points of the alt right seem to be something he made himself, so he's basically taking a term that already exists and trying to steal it for himself and then complaining that other people are already using it... wtf?

    It includes gems such as:

    8. The Alt Right is scientodific. It presumptively accepts the current conclusions of the scientific method (scientody), while understanding a) these conclusions are liable to future revision, b) that scientistry is susceptible to corruption, and c) that the so-called scientific consensus is not based on scientody, but democracy, and is therefore intrinsically unscientific.
    I totally believe in "science", I just don't believe any scientists. Really says it all.

    10. The Alt Right is opposed to the rule or domination of any native ethnic group by another, particularly in the sovereign homelands of the dominated peoples. The Alt Right is opposed to any non-native ethnic group obtaining excessive influence in any society through nepotism, tribalism, or any other means.
    So apparently the alt right is against the domination of Native Americans, and is opposed to white people having influence in North America?

    14. The Alt Right believes we must secure the existence of white people and a future for white children.
    ...

  16. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by Astalnar View Post
    Literally from the same article:
    Strawmen really shouldn't carry tiki torches. Not only is it a fire hazard, it's an existential paradox.

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    Fuck these people.

    Democrats may think they hate the alt-right. But, I assure you your hatred pales in comparison to that of real Conservatives and Libertarians. Why in the actual fuck do they call themselves "right", when nothing they want is a thing of the right?
    Bit early to be distancing yourself from the brownshirts isn't it? I've been expecting a Night of the Long Knives for a while now, and the subsequent historical revisionism. So far it's been more subtle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trifle View Post
    So apparently the alt right is against the domination of Native Americans, and is opposed to white people having influence in North America?
    *The alt right reserves the right to determine who is native to where, in terms that suit the alt right. Rest assured our methods will be scientodific.
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    It is a fact, not just something I made up.

  17. #77
    I would have DC out of the title. They actually listened to their fans and made changes to bring back characters that fans had loved for years with Rebirth. They also seem to have cornered the market on good writers because everything I have seen written about Rebirth has been great. Marvel on the other hand has seemed to removed the ability to actually write from the job description of writing their comics.

    As far as this new comic or comic book company I would have to see how the artwork and writing is before i rendered any judgement. Having been a long time comic collector (around 30 yrs) I have a pretty good idea what qualifies as a good story in comics and what doesnt. The statement that want to keep politics out of their stories is certainly encouraging, as it is tricky to incorporate them well, without being too preachy. Chris Claremount did it very well with the X-Men, where they tackled racism but did not hit you over the head with the politics behind it. He is the main reason why X-Men became the comic powerhouse it was in the 90s, and as a major fan of the series (I had well over 500 issues of Uncanny alone) it is a shame to see what has happened to the title and to Marvel comics in general.

    Now if they are looking to keep politics out of it i would have gone with a different main character as it does not look like they will be keeping the book politics free. Artwork isnt awful but also not overly impressive. It reminds me a bit of when Liefeld did Youngblood, but I do consider the artwork in the picture to be better than his work. i was a Jim Lee and Micheal Turner fan and definitely not a Liefeld fan.
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    Looks like pure garbage. Way to lol!
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    The art doesn't look up to industry standard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImpTaimer View Post
    Oh boohoo free market exists.
    And so does public criticism of a work.
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    Look Batman really isn't an accurate source by any means
    Quote Originally Posted by Hooked View Post
    It is a fact, not just something I made up.

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