Appear Offline MUST be removed from the Blizzard app

[Zazajin]

RealID annoyed me because when I'd been in RP or raiding guilds often the officers would make it mandatory you have them on it, when I'd be playing Diablo or be on an alt I'd get harassed for not being in the raid or RPing. There's times I just want to play and relax and not raid or whatever.

[Temp name]

RealID annoyed me because when I'd been in RP or raiding guilds often the officers would make it mandatory you have them on it, when I'd be playing Diablo or be on an alt I'd get harassed for not being in the raid or RPing. There's times I just want to play and relax and not raid or whatever.

Sounds like shit guilds. Never heard that as a requirement anywhere.
That said, I do have my RL and GM on battle.tag just because it makes it easier to get a hold of them (or me, when I get put on a bench)

[Zazajin]

Sounds like shit guilds. Never heard that as a requirement anywhere.
That said, I do have my RL and GM on battle.tag just because it makes it easier to get a hold of them (or me, when I get put on a bench)

It was supposed to be something similar to that, but it just devolved into "Why aren't you raiding??!" "Why aren't you coming to the event?! If you're online you have to come!" in the end I just Gquit, but an appear offline feature would have been a godsend.

[Talvindius]

This can not be serious. There's no way.

10/10 epic meme post

[Qnubi]

You should also NOT be able to remove friends you added or ignore spammers. That's anti-social, you MUST be forced to interact with everyone you had contact with. The reason WoW is DYING is simply because people were given tools to ignore and remove people from social interactions. Can't YOU see?

[Deleted]

You should also NOT be able to remove friends you added or ignore spammers. That's anti-social, you MUST be forced to interact with everyone you had contact with. The reason WoW is DYING is simply because people were given tools to ignore and remove people from social interactions. Can't YOU see?

That MUST be irony. There is no way you are serious about that. :-D

[TriHard]

Sounds like shit guilds. Never heard that as a requirement anywhere.
That said, I do have my RL and GM on battle.tag just because it makes it easier to get a hold of them (or me, when I get put on a bench)

OP here is likely one of those leaders that want to have constant watch over his members, lol.

[deviantcultist]

That whole notion where if you don't like it, its not meant for you....or you can't force players to play the way you want...its all invalid. You cannot allow players to be antisocial. It kills the games. Its the reason we dropped from 12 million to 3 million subs. It is not negotiable.

The title of the thread was rather annoying as is and now this point kinda confirms that this is a Social Justice Warrior argumentation once again. A gamer can never relate to pretentious arguments such as this.

[Fonduset]

What's wrong with wanting to play with a bit of privacy, especially if you have characters out of your guild. I just changed to the beta and I am playing undisturbed. It is bliss!!

[Tiwack]

It's a matter of privacy and taking responsibility for what you signed up for. Or just slowly drive yourself mad. There's no easy solutions and it's one of the challenges of living in an ever increasingly interconnected world.
Be good.

[ExOsiris]

That MUST be irony. :-D

This would be sarcastic, not ironic

[Kokolums]

The title of the thread was rather annoying as is and now this point kinda confirms that this is a Social Justice Warrior argumentation once again. A gamer can never relate to pretentious arguments such as this.

I understand the need to enjoy different playstyles. Some people want to play in private by themselves. Im not arguing against that. Im saying that an MMO requires forced social interaction to thrive. Its unfortunate for those that want solo play, but as it turns out, if solo play is what you want, an MMO is not for you. You are playing the wrong game.

Legion is built much better than vanilla. Theres tons to do. Content is rolling in. Yet subs are about the same as wod. Thats because none of it matters. What matters is the game is as antisocial as wod. Subs would blow past 10 million again if they forced players to be social

[Noradin]

I understand the need to enjoy different playstyles. Some people want to play in private by themselves. Im not arguing against that. Im saying that an MMO requires forced social interaction to thrive. Its unfortunate for those that want solo play, but as it turns out, if solo play is what you want, an MMO is not for you. You are playing the wrong game.

Legion is built much better than vanilla. Theres tons to do. Content is rolling in. Yet subs are about the same as wod. Thats because none of it matters. What matters is the game is as antisocial as wod. Subs would blow past 10 million again if they forced players to be social

I didn't know Starcraft was an MMO, you learn something new every day...

[Eliandal]

You are playing the wrong game.

Please don't presume to tell me (or anyone else for that matter) how to 'play' the game we pay for (unless of course, you're willing to pay my (ours) sub. Then we can discuss it)

[Mosotti]

The OP was ignored as a youngling and look at him now: he wants the world to talk to him. Even by force.

[Gimlix]

The OP was ignored as a youngling and look at him now: he wants the world to talk to him. Even by force.

Look at OP. understanding the MMO market. Too bad the new generation feels like they have the right to make MMO's into a singleplayer game because some lone boys/girls can't interact with people.

"My friends are spamming me" or "I am trying to avoid this friend of my" well if this is the case, delete this person.

Sorry but OP is 100% right to be upset about this nonsense feature.

[Mosotti]

Look at OP. understanding the MMO market. Too bad the new generation feels like they have the right to make MMO's into a singleplayer game because some lone boys/girls can't interact with people.

Having this feature doesn't make the MMO single player, it allows people to have privacy.

"My friends are spamming me" or "I am trying to avoid this friend of my" well if this is the case, delete this person.

Why delete the person, it's not like you NEVER want to talk to them, it's NOW you don't want to talk to them

Sorry but OP is 100% right to be upset about this nonsense feature.

He's not, he's an entitled little biatch. Looks that you are like that too. "Oh, please love me all day, every day, I want attention". Buy a fucking dog.

[epLe]

Look at OP. understanding the MMO market.
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Sorry but OP is 100% right to be upset about this nonsense feature.

People like OP and you, are the reason why Blizzard finally implemented this.
If you dont like it, dont use it... its just like PvP, fishing, raiding or any other feature.

[Gimlix]

Having this feature doesn't make the MMO single player, it allows people to have privacy.

That you already have? Sorry it's not like someone can see exactly what you are doing.

Why delete the person, it's not like you NEVER want to talk to them, it's NOW you don't want to talk to them

Then be mature about it and say you are not interested right now. Sorry but if you don't have the balls for this, then you still need to grow up.

He's not, he's an entitled little biatch. Looks that you are like that too. "Oh, please love me all day, every day, I want attention". Buy a fucking dog.

From where did the "Love me all day" come from? I didn't even remotely say anything like this. This is just an awful way to go into an attack mode because you got nothing to say. Pathetic.

[Voix]

I understand the need to enjoy different playstyles. Some people want to play in private by themselves. Im not arguing against that. Im saying that an MMO requires forced social interaction to thrive. Its unfortunate for those that want solo play, but as it turns out, if solo play is what you want, an MMO is not for you. You are playing the wrong game.

Legion is built much better than vanilla. Theres tons to do. Content is rolling in. Yet subs are about the same as wod. Thats because none of it matters. What matters is the game is as antisocial as wod. Subs would blow past 10 million again if they forced players to be social

Sometimes I want to play Diablo on my own or HoTs in QM with randoms because the queue system sucks when you're more than 1 player. It's easier to appear offline then tell someone "you suck at HoTs" or "I don't want to play with you right now because you can be super annoying when we play Diablo", sure I'm exaggerating on how mean you'd be realistically because It's often a different excuse to get out of telling the truth (who want's to hurt their friends feelings?).. this functionality helps me bypass these awkward conversations or ignoring people.

You can still be seen by people with your character on their friends list in WoW, you can still be seen by your guild members; The real ID system hasn't always been part of WoW, so we're effectively back to vanilla standards of communication in WoW, so we know the game didn't struggle with this, even in its peak.

You hit on some of the right notes but it's not this feature, WoW was made anti-social by dungeon queues, raid queues and the difficulty changes in the game to not require large amounts of communication in anything that isn't high end content, I'd point out however that things like M+ and challenge modes have made me a few friends this expansion and previous expac(s) so I feel like Blizz have moved in the right direction in this regard whilst losing ground in others.

As for blowing past 10 million subs, that's not really true, the thing about WoW is it has been around forever, you can only paint the sky blue in so many ways. Gaming has grown as a culture; people have become better at MMOs; things that were difficult in vanilla are considered basic mechanics today. This is important because they need to ramp up the complexity in raids as the player base becomes more advanced but in doing so, co-ordinating 40 people to do complicated fights was almost impossible which prompted the size changes to 25.

As time went on from this point WoW didn't lose its magic but you can only catch lightning once, you can only experience the sense of wonder and exploration once with WoW. Once you hit max level and min-max your toon and power game, you've evolved past that rookie newbie feeling. This leads to people losing interest and population decrease, eventually prompting the 10/25 makeup and then to flex/20 makeup.

You combine this with dungeon queues and raid queues and toning down the difficulty for low-tier content to try and bring in more players and you lose the social requirement of MMOs on most content and pigeon hole it into a focused set of areas (M+, Mythic Raids). By lowering low-tier content difficulty they alienate other parts of their player base too.

Your core point is right, WoW is anti-social but this feature won't hurt it, the damage is already done sadly, Blizzard do make attempts at fixing this but they won't risk drastic changes like bringing the skill floor up on lower content to force social interaction because that will most certainly lose them $$$. Excluding this feature, what do you think they can realistically do to force people to socialise more?