'More than half of women' sexually harassed at work, survey reveals

[sarahtasher]

Simple question for the usual suspects.

If a girl tells you ''No, I'm not interested'', do you think it means ''no'' ? (Or that she actually means yes and/or is a feminist lesbian)

If this is the case, congratulations for not understanding at all what means ''flirt''

[Auxora]

Inappropriate jokes while obnoxious seems a bit of a stretch to call sexual harassment. I know it's subjective. But obnoxious comments seem to be made by all kinds of people, whether it's about sex/race/weight, etc. They shouldn't do them and I've been the target myself at times, but we do need to delineate between Weinstein-type harassment that was essentially rape, and people claiming sexual harassment because a jerk made a rude joke. It dilutes the seriousness of physical sexual harassment imo to put a rude joke in the same terminology as a guy masturbating on a female.

[Swalload]

Simple question for the usual suspects.

If a girl tells you ''No, I'm not interested'', do you think it means ''no'' ? (Or that she actually means yes and/or is a feminist lesbian)

If this is the case, congratulations for not understanding at all what means ''flirt''

The problem is much bigger than that.

We have guys who can't make the difference between flirt and crass.
And we have women who think they can call harassment the first time a not so attractive guy talks to them in a normal way.

This whole shit will end terribly wrong.

[mickybrighteyes]

Pretty sure that applies everywhere

not the 'shot dead' part...

[Sekach]

Neuter/spade the populace i say, it is the best solution it is the final solution....

[HumbleDuck]

When did these boards get filled with sexual predators?

[Aeula]

I wonder how some of these women define ‘sexual harassment’.

[Chloral]

When the majority of the forum goers are white male teenagers/ in their early 20s that's what you get.

When did these boards get filled with sexual predators?

[Lorgar Aurelian]

In what line of work?

[PLS]

When did these boards get filled with sexual predators?

You just proved them all right with this comment. They are literally talking about women exaggerating/crying wolf and you come in and in one sentence label them all predators....

[Kithelle]

If those who reported sexual harassments were 100% decent beings, yes. So theoretically, that's a yes.

Realistically, hahahahaha no.


In a world where you have PEOPLE saying that being looked at is harassment such surveys are a joke.

Pretty much, you have people dressing in low cut clothing, skin exposed everywhere...especially the cleavage...then complain that you looked at them and call it harassment.

Not saying that women aren't harassed, but in this day and age if just having someone look at you can be considered harassment, then pretty much anything could be.

[Drusin]

http://www.itv.com/news/2017-10-25/w...d-work-survey/



Now I suspect the usual people coming in here spouting nonsense but I wanted to highlight certain points I felt important

You rang?

"The survey categorised harassment as ranging from inappropriate jokes"
Oh man I can't tell you how many inappropriate jokes I've heard in the workplace, sexually directed towards me by other men in the typical gay joke fashion that we all have grown to know and love. Everything from sucking dick, ass fucking and handjobs in the back room lol good times.

"Men were considerably less likely to report experiences of sexual harassment"
Well, there was quite a bit of inappropriate touching at my last job lol. Inappropriate in the sense that it wasn't appropriate for the workplace but not inappropriate in the sense that it was unwanted. I make the assumption that the people involved didn't mind because they reciprocated the touching unprovoked at later times but hey who knows.

As far as women are concerned I've never personally been sexually harassed at work but have been in sexual relations with women I work with and they usually keep it low key. Would I report it if it had happened to me, even from someone I found disgusting and had no sexual desire towards, nope. I'd handle each situation differently though depending on gender. I've had aggressive gay men come on to me with the "don't knock it till you try it" bit but I don't really pay it any attention. If a woman were to come on to me I'd be more worried about retaliation from rejection than anything else. Though I like to think I've become good at not rejecting women but making them lose interest.

[Ifeanychukwu]

The fact women get abused damn well should be common knowledge. The fact that more than half occur at work is presumably news to people, however.

Well I mean, most people spend most of their day at work so it stands to reason that's where it would happen. In a place where people that don't usually hang out are forced to be around each other and interact.

I don't doubt that there's sexual harassment in workplaces either but I have a feeling that some of those cases are women considering something meant to be innocent as harassment that men would brush off and not think about.

[ProfessorTjc]

When the majority of the forum goers are white male teenagers/ in their early 20s that's what you get.

That's a pretty funny accusation. I'm half white and half cuban and cubans are literally the worse when it comes to making sexual advances AND cat calling. I also live in South Florida which happens to have a big African American society as well and they are just as worse. Sorry you might not want to hear this cause it could be played off as "Wow you're racists" which I'm not. I live in a city where there is a good mix of races and it's pretty much what I encounter almost everyday.

[Heladys]

Well I mean, most people spend most of their day at work so it stands to reason that's where it would happen. In a place where people that don't usually hang out are forced to be around each other and interact.

I don't doubt that there's sexual harassment in workplaces either but I have a feeling that some of those cases are women considering something meant to be innocent as harassment that men would brush off and not think about.

For logical people like you and me, sure.

For the "special" people here who like to live under bridges, any time a woman gets harassed, she was asking for it, shouldn't have worn that dress, shouldn't have gone to the pub without a male escort, or shouldn't have been working outside the home.

[Arenis]

It would be nice if reports of surveys would include a link to the survey results and methods.

[pateuvasiliu]

When the majority of the forum goers are white male teenagers/ in their early 20s that's what you get.

Now that is what I would call harassment. Implying white males are more likely to be sexual predators.


Not this " he looked at me, he literally raped me!! " crap.

[Niaraa]

50% of men will NEVER have sex if they dont do the first step. start to do it in first place girls, and men pressure will decrease A LOT! why always us? and seriously inhaprotriate jokes? harrasment? it is only if you make this kind of jokes all day long every day. but a lone joke with no sexual intention behind is not harrasment. you dont like this? DEAL WITH IT!! a lot of stuff i dont like happen to me. bills at first place. and for the real harassement with threat and body touching without consente it's should be punish so more.

[NicoWolf]

Now that is what I would call harassment. Implying white males are more likely to be sexual predators.


Not this " he looked at me, he literally raped me!! " crap.

Remember, you can't reason people out of positions they failed to use reason to get themselves into. They want to feel harassed and violated so it validates their victimhood complex. They've never felt harassed or abused, but they really want to so they can feel legitimately a part of the events around them. Otherwise they're just like everybody else. Boring and unremarkable.

[ro9ue]

As a guy I've experienced a ton of the things that here seem to classify as sexual harassment. You have to look at the whole circumstance really. Most of the time there's not anything malicious, just social awkwardness and it's not worth causing someone to lose their job over. There are a few times I've given a stern "don't do that". And that's really all that ever had to be said in my experience.

It would be naive to think it's no different for ladies, but I still think we need to chill out. Let's point out the creeps if they're really creeps, but if someone pats you on the side of your arm I don't think we need to be alerting the presses.

Truth is, the easy-to-offend culture is actually harmful to real sexual harassment victims. We have people who are so uber sensitive lacking any degree of empathy that can't jsut recognize some off color remarks as social ineptness with no harmful intent. If you start flooding sexual harassment claims to your HR office about Jane in accounting who accidentally grazed your ass walking by, that any reasonable person would've just brushed off, it takes away from situations where there's actually a creepy dude doing creepy shit to people that needs to be exiled.

The Boy Who Cried Wolf, so to speak.